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Modern Lover
QUOTE (kids like ash @ Feb 7 2010, 20:47) *
I havent seen this before, but its a must for schumacher fans who might have not see nthis. (I ma not a schumacher fan by the way but i enjoyed this alot)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wqAmZMV3CcA


Nice enough video.

*Rant starts*

But why do people insist on adding that extremely tacky and pathetic trailer trash song to absolutely everything when thay want to portray any semi-emotional moment/feeling?

Makes me lose faith in democracy when I know that the votes of the retarted people who made, let alone like that type of music carry the same weight as the votes of educated people.

*Rant over*
Szoelloe
QUOTE (Modern Lover @ Feb 7 2010, 12:42) *
Nice enough video.

*Rant starts*

But why do people insist on adding that extremely tacky and pathetic trailer trash song to absolutely everything when thay want to portray any semi-emotional moment/feeling?

Makes me lose faith in democracy when I know that the votes of the retarted people who made, let alone like that type of music carry the same weight as the votes of educated people.

*Rant over*


biggrin.gif biggrin.gif yeah, unfortunely, democracy is based on the votes of retarded plebs, as being the majority.
ex Rhodie racer 2
QUOTE (Modern Lover @ Feb 7 2010, 12:42) *
Nice enough video.

*Rant starts*

But why do people insist on adding that extremely tacky and pathetic trailer trash song to absolutely everything when thay want to portray any semi-emotional moment/feeling?

Makes me lose faith in democracy when I know that the votes of the retarted people who made, let alone like that type of music carry the same weight as the votes of educated people.

*Rant over*
Dear me. rolleyes.gif
There is no such thing as bad music. There is only music you like and music you don´t like. Calling a piece of music, "a pathetic trailer trash song", and the people who enjoy it, retarded and uneducated, well, I really don´t know what to say, other than maybe you should rethink that one.
Modern Lover
QUOTE (ex Rhodie racer 2 @ Feb 7 2010, 22:50) *
Dear me. rolleyes.gif
There is no such thing as bad music. There is only music you like and music you don´t like. Calling a piece of music, "a pathetic trailer trash song", and the people who enjoy it, retarded and uneducated, well, I really don´t know what to say, other than maybe you should rethink that one.


Its a rant. Totally off topic. But I have grown so insanely tired off this type of music it is really hard to comprehend. Of all the different genres and all the different good quality music that has been or is released why do people choose this garbage? It is just beyond me.

Anyway, as the post is really, and I mean really off topic, the moderators should, and probably will delete it.
2ms
Ross seems to really be bent on getting Schumacher to another championship before he's aged much more. Word is (and logic clearly supports the notion) that buying an F1 team at the toughest possible time economy-wise was a tough sell contingent upon fulfillment of substantial near-term expectations of results by corporate board at Daimler.

What do Mercedes GP do if '10 championship eludes them and it looks like it will take more to get the results really shooting for?

Certainly I see MGP doing all they can to get Vettel down the line. But I think they need results before that will happen as I see Vettel being a RBR man for at least a couple more years. It seems to me it behooves MGP and Brawn to be as clever and resourceful as possible in getting Schumacher everything possible to "take the fight" to McLaren and Ferrari. They've got the team that won (though largely bc of DDD advantage) last year so that's a start. Anyone have ideas on what they might be able to do to get to a next level though?

For example, do you guys think Ross might be able to poach any more of what's left of the golden-era talent from Ferrari such as Chris Dyer? My impression is that Ferrari is becoming a place where Anglo-saxons might be starting to feel less and less at home/valued, for one thing.

Are there pockets of unusual talent in any other teams who's moorings may have loosened up a bit in the economic and general dramatic/political chaos of the last couple years? What other avenues toward obtaining higher capability of team might be available to Ross if he really wanted to make an extra push for next year if things haven't gone quite as Schumi and corporate feel they need to if they're really going to keep doing the F1 thing?
mclarensmps
QUOTE (ex Rhodie racer 2 @ Feb 7 2010, 07:50) *
Dear me. rolleyes.gif
There is no such thing as bad music.


You are wrong. There definitely is such a thing as bad music
ex Rhodie racer 2
QUOTE (The Big Guns @ Feb 7 2010, 21:13) *
You are wrong. There definitely is such a thing as bad music

Well, I´ll take your word for it then. lol.gif
Sakae
It is OT, but The Big Gun is correct. I have committed the same mistake in statement "there is bad wheather today". Someone's a "bad" song is "music to his ears" to someone else. smile.gif
santori
Tomorrownewsf1 says there's speculation that Mercedes have signed a pre-contract with Raikkonen in case something goes wrong with Michael's plan to stay until 2012.
Anomnader
QUOTE (santori @ Feb 7 2010, 20:54) *
Tomorrownewsf1 says there's speculation that Mercedes have signed a pre-contract with Raikkonen in case something goes wrong with Michael's plan to stay until 2012.


well, tomorrowsnewsf1 is certainly making a name for itself, I wonder if its writing BS storys to get traffic, or its just got very good sources?


If true, and I was heidfeld I'd be asking WTF?
Snuggie
QUOTE (santori @ Feb 7 2010, 21:54) *
Tomorrownewsf1 says there's speculation that Mercedes have signed a pre-contract with Raikkonen in case something goes wrong with Michael's plan to stay until 2012.

It ain't gonna happen. Why Kimi if they could get Vettel and stay team Germany. And I also think Michael will stay in F1 for at least 5 years. tongue.gif
Sakae
QUOTE (santori @ Feb 7 2010, 15:54) *
Tomorrownewsf1 says there's speculation that Mercedes have signed a pre-contract with Raikkonen in case something goes wrong with Michael's plan to stay until 2012.


Assuming the information is correct, does this mean that NH then is merelly filling gaps without a stable, long term future with the team?
Raincoat
QUOTE (santori @ Feb 7 2010, 20:54) *
Tomorrownewsf1 says there's speculation that Mercedes have signed a pre-contract with Raikkonen in case something goes wrong with Michael's plan to stay until 2012.




Utter BS! Geez any idiot can make up a story, anything to get traffic.
Rob
QUOTE (Anomnader @ Feb 7 2010, 20:59) *
If true, and I was heidfeld I'd be asking WTF?


I don't believe one word of this supposed pre-contract story. Raikkonen is signed and sealed at Citroen. Heidfeld is fast, he's by far the best option out there for Merc if Schumacher can't race for whatever reason.
maccaFTW
QUOTE (2ms @ Feb 7 2010, 13:45) *
For example, do you guys think Ross might be able to poach any more of what's left of the golden-era talent from Ferrari such as Chris Dyer? My impression is that Ferrari is becoming a place where Anglo-saxons might be starting to feel less and less at home/valued, for one thing.


I don't think it's long until we start hearing names of ex-Ferrari people going to Merc.

John Iley would seem an obvious choice, given that Ferrari let him go (and put a gag order on him for a number of months).

There was also a rumor that Baldisserri may go to Brawn last year.

Then you have Rory Byrne doing basically nothing right now. Who knows if he'd like to have another go at designing a F1 car?
2ms
QUOTE (maccaFTW @ Feb 8 2010, 00:20) *
I don't think it's long until we start hearing names of ex-Ferrari people going to Merc.

John Iley would seem an obvious choice, given that Ferrari let him go (and put a gag order on him for a number of months).

There was also a rumor that Baldisserri may go to Brawn last year.

Then you have Rory Byrne doing basically nothing right now. Who knows if he'd like to have another go at designing a F1 car?


Isn't Iley the chief aerodynamicist at McLaren now? I think it's a little late in life for Byrne to be starting up a new thing at a new team as well. However, I could easily see Dyer getting out of Ferrari. Call me crazy, but I actually see Massa wanting to be at MGP (even if they aren't good this year) too. Imagine Massa and Smedley leaving for MGP. Well, those are the only people at Ferrari I know by name other than the new guys and Stella who there's no way he's leaving since Ferrari needs him too bad for Alonso to let it happen. I find it interesting that I almost predict them all going to MGP though. That'd be quite the coup -- all of Ferrari's most known tailing it for the Silver Arrows.
doublestars
Excuse me, who knows the driver arrangement of next test?
Timstr11
QUOTE (doublestars @ Feb 8 2010, 19:10) *
Excuse me, who knows the driver arrangement of next test?


Wednesday: Nico ROSBERG
Thursday: Michael SCHUMACHER
Friday: Nico ROSBERG
Saturday: Michael SCHUMACHER
Sakae
4 days of ecstasy?
Enkei
QUOTE (2ms @ Feb 8 2010, 13:02) *
Isn't Iley the chief aerodynamicist at McLaren now? I think it's a little late in life for Byrne to be starting up a new thing at a new team as well. However, I could easily see Dyer getting out of Ferrari. Call me crazy, but I actually see Massa wanting to be at MGP (even if they aren't good this year) too. Imagine Massa and Smedley leaving for MGP. Well, those are the only people at Ferrari I know by name other than the new guys and Stella who there's no way he's leaving since Ferrari needs him too bad for Alonso to let it happen. I find it interesting that I almost predict them all going to MGP though. That'd be quite the coup -- all of Ferrari's most known tailing it for the Silver Arrows.


Iley only just started at McLaren this season. Little chance he will leave now already.
KiloWatt
QUOTE (Timstr11 @ Feb 8 2010, 20:21) *
Wednesday: Nico ROSBERG
Thursday: Michael SCHUMACHER
Friday: Nico ROSBERG
Saturday: Michael SCHUMACHER


I know it's been asked, but to add further weight to the question, I'd like to ask as well.

Are we seriously being treated to four whole days of testing?
Clatter
QUOTE (KiloWatt @ Feb 8 2010, 19:20) *
I know it's been asked, but to add further weight to the question, I'd like to ask as well.

Are we seriously being treated to four whole days of testing?


I don't understand your question. Are you doubting the test schedule?
KiloWatt
QUOTE (Clatter @ Feb 8 2010, 21:23) *
I don't understand your question. Are you doubting the test schedule?


I haven't seen it, that's why I'm asking. Testing four days is not the usual practice, hence the confusion.
Clatter
QUOTE (KiloWatt @ Feb 8 2010, 19:33) *
I haven't seen it, that's why I'm asking. Testing four days is not the usual practice, hence the confusion.


There are 3 more tests, 4 days for each.
KiloWatt
QUOTE (Clatter @ Feb 8 2010, 21:35) *
There are 3 more tests, 4 days for each.


Thank you. Much appreciated! :-)
potmotr
QUOTE (MiPe @ Feb 8 2010, 18:44) *
4 days of ecstasy?


I tried that once but the come down was too much.
Sakae
You ever heard "roll over"? tongue.gif
anakin
Is Loic Bigois still the chief designer of the car this year?

What other relevant names are part of the technical stuff led by Ross Brawn?
Anssi
QUOTE (Rob @ Feb 8 2010, 01:15) *
I don't believe one word of this supposed pre-contract story. Raikkonen is signed and sealed at Citroen.


Only for 2010. Consider that it is only a few months ahead that Kimi has to decide whether he will come back to F1 or not. They've said it's by the turn of the months June and July when they decide. I would imagine they would wait a bit longer than that, can't believe Kimi would know his place in the WRC by the end of June already - it's way too little time. Maybe that date was put out by his manager, though, who I am sure would like to see Kimi back in F1 ASAP (I think it was the manager who was keeping the talks of Kimi to Mercedes alive late last year... we heard nothing of the sort from Kimi... in fact I think Kimi commented on it only once and it was a negative response and then after that we only heard his manager speak).

Any way, my point is if Kimi is coming back to F1 for 2011 then he should be having contract proposals presented to him in a few months time at the latest. It's not a long time until that has to be done if they would like to sort it out at a good time regarding F1.

I won't take the rumour that French site presented seriously, though. It seems to say that Kimi's manager was seen at the F1 tests and then they seem to conclude from that that they've negotiated with Mercedes and already have a pre-contract. Quite a leap of faith there if seen the manager at the tests and maybe talk to some people already means they have a contract. If they have signed a contract then how does that information leak out - pretty incredible. I would do such pre-contracts so that there is a penalty for you if you leak it out to the public, and the people who would know about it would not be many.
anakin
I guess we should try to stay on topic, which by the way is the MGP W01 right?
doublestars
QUOTE (anakin @ Feb 9 2010, 01:07) *
I guess we should try to stay on topic, which by the way is the MGP W01 right?


If we want to keep on topic, the most effective way is to avoid talking about Kimi smoking.gif
KiloWatt
From WhiteBlue in the F1technical.net forum (I can't get his source, crash.net, to work).

Just in:
“At the Jerez tests the veil will continue to be lifted and a more detailed picture will emerge,” Rosberg told German newspaper Bild, before adding: “We will certainly be at the top.”

“At the first test, Ferrari did the best job of those teams in attendance,” acknowledged Haug, speaking to Auto Motor und Sport. “At the next test, and later at the first race, it may be quite a different story.”

Let's hope they can back that strong words up with performance.

Edit: I wonder if we'll be seeing some new aero? Here's hoping.
BRK
QUOTE (KiloWatt @ Feb 9 2010, 11:22) *
From WhiteBlue in the F1technical.net forum (I can't get his source, crash.net, to work).

Just in:
“At the Jerez tests the veil will continue to be lifted and a more detailed picture will emerge,” Rosberg told German newspaper Bild, before adding: “We will certainly be at the top.”

“At the first test, Ferrari did the best job of those teams in attendance,” acknowledged Haug, speaking to Auto Motor und Sport. “At the next test, and later at the first race, it may be quite a different story.”

Let's hope they can back that strong words up with performance.

Edit: I wonder if we'll be seeing some new aero? Here's hoping.


Argh,I wish they didn't say things like that and jinx their chances! Especially considering Ferrari have a new chassis on the way,to be used at the next test...
lafitek
QUOTE (Timstr11 @ Feb 8 2010, 19:21) *
Wednesday: Nico ROSBERG
Thursday: Michael SCHUMACHER
Friday: Nico ROSBERG
Saturday: Michael SCHUMACHER

why not in that order? roflmao.gif

Wednesday:Michael SCHUMACHER
Thursday: Nico ROSBERG
Friday: Michael SCHUMACHER
Saturday:Nico ROSBERG

the only full dry day is predicted for Thursday...
Clatter
QUOTE (BRK @ Feb 9 2010, 05:53) *
Argh,I wish they didn't say things like that and jinx their chances! Especially considering Ferrari have a new chassis on the way,to be used at the next test...


New chassis doesn't mean a redesigned one. They need at least 2 for the races so this could just be the second one that has been built and requires shaking down etc.
femi
QUOTE (BRK @ Feb 9 2010, 06:53) *
Argh,I wish they didn't say things like that and jinx their chances! Especially considering Ferrari have a new chassis on the way,to be used at the next test...


Don't worry, you can't jinx the law of physics smile.gif
Timstr11
QUOTE (anakin @ Feb 8 2010, 23:39) *
Is Loic Bigois still the chief designer of the car this year?

What other relevant names are part of the technical stuff led by Ross Brawn?

All engineers are relevant and we should abandon the idea that design is a one man thing.

Anyway,
Head of Aero: Loic Bigois
Principal Aerodynamicist: John Owen
Design Manager: Russell Cooley
docronzo
QUOTE (lafitek @ Feb 9 2010, 07:05) *
why not in that order? roflmao.gif

Wednesday:Michael SCHUMACHER
Thursday: Nico ROSBERG
Friday: Michael SCHUMACHER
Saturday:Nico ROSBERG

the only full dry day is predicted for Thursday...


Wednesday:Michael SCHUMACHER
Thursday: Nico ROSBERG
Friday: Michael ROSBERG
Saturday: Nico SCHUMACHER

stoned.gif
Scotracer
QUOTE (KiloWatt @ Feb 9 2010, 05:22) *
From WhiteBlue in the F1technical.net forum (I can't get his source, crash.net, to work).

Just in:
“At the Jerez tests the veil will continue to be lifted and a more detailed picture will emerge,” Rosberg told German newspaper Bild, before adding: “We will certainly be at the top.”

“At the first test, Ferrari did the best job of those teams in attendance,” acknowledged Haug, speaking to Auto Motor und Sport. “At the next test, and later at the first race, it may be quite a different story.”

Let's hope they can back that strong words up with performance.

Edit: I wonder if we'll be seeing some new aero? Here's hoping.


http://www.crash.net/f1/news/156635/1/rosb..._be_on_top.html

From the article:

QUOTE
Nico Rosberg has played down fears that Mercedes Grand Prix's new W01 challenger is not on the front-running pace following the first pre-season F1 2010 group test at Valencia in Spain last week – and he vowed that the next time the cars take to the track at Jerez later this week, it will be the Silver Arrows leading the way.

Rosberg wound up just ninth-quickest outright at the end of the three-day session around the Circuit Ricardo Tormo, almost a full second-and-a-half shy of the best effort from Fernando Alonso in the Ferrari. Team-mate and returning multiple F1 World Champion Michael Schumacher was only two spots better in seventh, with the new Sauber, McLaren-Mercedes and Renault all separating Mercedes from its scarlet rivals.

That caused team principal Ross Brawn to subsequently reflect that the Brackley-based outfit's contender is 'a little bit off the pace,' as it suffers predominantly from handling and balance issues [see separate story – click here].

Both Rosberg and Mercedes-Benz Motorsport Vice-President Norbert Haug, however, have been quick to assure that there is no need to panic yet amidst suggestions of early sandbagging on heavy fuel loads – as they asserted that the true picture of who lies where in the pecking order may not become apparent until the campaign revs into life with the curtain-raising Bahrain Grand Prix at Sakhir in just under six weeks' time.

“At the Jerez tests the veil will continue to be lifted and a more detailed picture will emerge,” Rosberg told German newspaper Bild, before adding: “We will certainly be at the top.”

“At the first test, Ferrari did the best job of those teams in attendance,” acknowledged Haug, speaking to Auto Motor und Sport. “At the next test, and later at the first race, it may be quite a different story.”


Xaus
wowowow, Rosberg just broke a cardinal rule of F1: Never GUARANTEE anything!
anakin
QUOTE (Timstr11 @ Feb 9 2010, 09:58) *
All engineers are relevant and we should abandon the idea that design is a one man thing.

Anyway,
Head of Aero: Loic Bigois
Principal Aerodynamicist: John Owen
Design Manager: Russell Cooley

I couldn't agree more. I praise all the engineers as well as all the other stuff. Renault even used to have two design teams working in tandem.

Anyway, thanks a lot for the info.
Wade
How is Nico doing right now?

I heard he's #1 in the testing, is it lack of competition due to issues, or rather, dominating the big boys because of Merc's upgrades?
BRK
Nothing of the sort,they've only done 11 or so laps,at the moment.
Galko877
Is there anything new on the Mercedes today? New diffusor? New front wing?
Wade
Same Q with Galko, can anyone hook us up?
DaleCooper
They painted the underbody Ferrari red, and it looks like it's working.

The next time Schumacher flips it, you'll get a glimpse. smile.gif


Cooper
salamin
on this picture they are still using the old FW, no pics of the diffuser so far
salamin
not much to see here
f1rules
im sorry, but unless they unveil a monster off a diffuser and a new frontwing soon, i will be hugely dissapointed about this car. What the .... have they spent the windtunnel hours on.
salamin
QUOTE (f1rules @ Feb 10 2010, 11:46) *
im sorry, but unless they unveil a monster off a diffuser and a new frontwing soon, i will be hugely dissapointed about this car. What the .... have they spent the windtunnel hours on.


i don't think it makes much sense putting the new aero parts on with heavy raining
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