Who is Huang?

I wrote the wrong name of Norbert Haug.

The car shows promise says Brawn

I think what Haug says is an obvious thing. If the car is 3rd best or even 2nd best , you are not going to be on the podium generally speaking. Schumacher might do that magic he did in 1196-1998 - but its a small unknown until we see Schumi in a race.

For any car - unless its a top 1 - 2 (given such good drivers in all top 4 cars) getting on the podium will be unlikely.

Its that simple math...and its not surprising atall. its the simple obvious thing.

now bolt on the uber super duper new package and if the MGP is a top 2 car, then fighting for a podium/wins is realistic. The hope is that this would be the case...

Just realized that Schumacher will break another record if he starts in Bahrein, namely that of most time elapsed between first and last race that is still held by Graham Hill (16 years something).

Some Vietnamese dude.

I don't know what you expect Haug to say? That they are Favorites. Did somebody else(other team) say they are Favorites? Don't think so. Do you think he see in the future? Don't think so. As far as I know there can be Sauber and FI on the first two rows in Bahrain? And if there is translation to English from other language, better see the original first. As Spa95 mentioned there isn't word "Podium" in original text, it is not only bad translation, it is bad journalist. At the moment nobody knows where he stand. There will be a lot of changes in every car, some small, same big. And also we can have more clear picture maybe when F1 come to Europe. But maybe who is fast in Bahrain will have advantage for first 4 races. Or maybe not. What official people say now is not important, it is important what teams will show on Friday, Saturday and Sunday.

"Schumacher might do that magic he did in 1196-1998 - but"

o Father Time where art thou????

Wow, has he really been around that long?

my bad

Does everybody have seen the pitstop of Schumi that went wrong in practice on one of the test days?

Let's hope for Schumi that this was a one off...

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I don't think so, but what is the point?

Maybe when Schumi practiced pitstop, he stoped his car in Ferrari parking area. Nothing else, take it easy.

I think he meant this pit stop: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9HK-FBP1IxQ

Well, it's obviously far from perfection ... but it's practice. I wouldn't be bothered about it.

wow, they made a mistake in a pitstop practice...
in a year where pitstops will change.

come on, that's why it's practice

How does this compare to Ferrari's tire change in (claimed) 2 sec/event? (Or was it Red Bull? I forgot which one).

This is an old statement from Brawn, nothing new.

Ross Brawn predicting thrilling new Formula One season

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/motorsport...one/8557836.stm

BBC F1 team on Michael Schumacher's return

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/motorsport...one/8549721.stm

http://www.racexpress.nl/index.php?nav=Artikel&nid=22256 + http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CK0yu0-MYNc Schumacher in training before Bahrain

I would rather hope that he is on the plane to Bahrain, and has good rest. Next five days will be nerve wrecking.

he will go to bahrain tomorrow with his private plane, as i understand from Amus he is the last of the drivers who will arrive there, nico went there yesterday

- Rosberg was half a second faster on average than MS in testing and he felt considerably better in the car, something Ross Brawn also admits
- Red Bull/Renault made an request to the FIA as they think they´re still too much down on power in comparison to Mercedes, RB feels the current situation is "against the spirit of the rules"
- 4-layer diffusor for the MGP car at Bahrain, expected time gain is 0,8 sec


source: Sportbild

Rosberg was not a half second faster on average than Nakakima...

Give me links, only what i found on sport-bild was that Mercedes have a new front wing and a monster-diffoser not an 4-layer diffusor.

So?

you can believe what you want
even that pigs fly, if reported by a news site
i was just trying to use some common sense

So?

Rosberg was faster during the test, so dont take care about it mate.

No...and because this is made up,I can't believe the rest.

This is according to bild: http://www.bild.de/BILD/sport/motorsport/f...i-mercedes.html


"Michael Schumacher mastermind Ross Brawn has designed a new front wing, which has already been tried in a secret trial in an English private airport.
The most important part of Michael Schumacher a new car is beneath his Mercedes: a subfloor with a completely altered super-diffuser in the rear."

Except that Ross Brawn doesn't design the cars or their parts.

Oh FFS! Cant they just stop whigning?

I know they tried to get the merc one and fair enough, they failed to get it. Couldn't they just get a cossie one instead? Even better, design your own one for the next engine regs. Merc had long suffered reliability problems and no one cared less. Now that they're good, suddenly they have an unfair advantage? **** that. They worked for that advantage, it wasn't givin to them on a platter. Hence, it's a fair advantage.

I've no sympathy at all.

Edit:
And another thing. Do we hear Merc whigning about an unfair fuel consumption advantage? Didn't think so... They buckle down and get on with the work. I think Red Bull should take off their dresses and end their little tea party already.

Read: they've thought of something we haven't, so we'd like to have their car banned.

Haha Red Bull does want more power in comparison with Mercedes. What about Toyota last year? I think there are some othere teams who can whining about their power especially when we know that their Renault engine might be better in fuel consumption.

Funny thing is they've already been allowed a tweak (Renault,that is),IIRC.

I think this thing about Renault is old news, because they complained before and they worked on the engine?

well it's been recently reported on autosport-total [english]

but yeah they claim sport-bild as source as well

interesting, i watched all the tests and calculated always the averages and i never got Rosberg being 0.5 faster and if i looked the combined times from autosport and f1fanatic site then Schumi was always ahead of Rosberg but anyway i wouldnt be surprised if Rosberg is a little bit faster than Schumi in first two races, because Schumi hasnt raced for 3 years after all but Rosberg has and he knows a little bit better how these kind of cars handle. But i expect this to be so only for 2 or 3 races, then will Schumi go his own way because Ross, Trulli and Fittipaldi have said that Schumi needs 2 or 3 races to get back to the racing speed and i think the same.

I think motorsport-total is part of the BILD-family.

No it's not. They're just helping Bild not to write so much trash about F1. I think they write some articles on Bild.de

But Bild.de is still TRASH Just look what they think is the "illegal" part of the the McLaren rear wing

http://www.bild.de/BILD/sport/motorsport/f...gales-heck.html

true, there are some links to the bild-autosport website

ahaha how stupid can a journalist be

OTOH bild these days is really some unreliable gossip crap, like they stated that the new merc update would bring 1.6 sec advantage over the lap, before it was even tested

Well, this is too close a cooperation with Autobild Motorsport or Sportbild Automotor or Motorbild Sportauto or whatever it is. Just like some kids call really close friends of their parents "uncle".

Not family in the strict sense, but family in the large (mafioso?) sense.

I hope Schumi will like more updated version of the car. Less than 2 days to First Practice.
And maybe 2009/2010 car have more understeer that last cars Schumi drove? And this is why Nico have less problems.

This 0.8 thing is BS. Whenever tehy install the new component on the car there are no guarantees that the current set-ups are going to work properly. So there might be the need for a bunch of set-up work that the team won't be able to evaluate during FP1/2/3 and therefore won't make the difference the team is expecting it to make.

The engine thing I have reported last year. Renault improved the engine from 2008 into 2009 but they did not care about reliability. When the season started Renault knew they would have to go leaner and lower on revs and therefore Renault was always making the best mileage. RBR wasn't enjoying that mileage. But once their engines blew up at Valencia, RBR started to use the same approach as Renault and then they were able to make better fuel mileage such as seen in Japan and in Brazil. But as the RB5 was superior by the end fo the season, this was not seen. Now that the RB6 isn't that superior when compared to Ferrari, Mclaren and Mercedes cars, this thing is starting to pop up again.

And the part about Schumacher vs Rosberg, we will see on track ;)

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/motorsport...one/8557836.stm
Brawn interview.

I agree, I don't know about the 0.8s thing. The simulations will definitely show how much the team expects with the new wing, and which set-ups will probably yield that gain, but it is up to the team to get the car to that point on track. They may not be able to dial the new package in before qualifying. It may take a race or two before we see the true potential of the new package. And then there is always the posibility that the simulations don't match up to real world numbers.

I watched that last night along with the Schumacher round table talk. Both pretty good clips. Although I expect Michael to be one of if not the best driver on the track from the start.

Who cares if its 17 layers it make not a iota of difference, the only reason we have multiple layers to the diffusers isn't because they work better than one its because the rules don't allow you to use all of the space you can exploit with a single layer/outlet diffuser.

Now on the front page they have a Gallery for today and I see a Mercedes engine cover or part thereof, it seems the shape around the exhausts has changed, unless they already had it like that, certainly different to launch, also you can see Ferrari has brought a high temp radiator cowling/engine cover with the fluting in the rear side, lets see if their cooling is marginal.

from online-bild
Ross Brawn: "What we need to do now is to deliver a car for MS that suits his undoubted talents. That's the goal of the new car"

I really hope the new car fits his driving style more !