I think the final scrutineering should take place after FW, because I remember FW can be treated as a test day since the test ban of mid-season.

FW, you mean FP ?

disagree, its bad enough waiting this far on cars legality let alone after 1st practice.

Brawn has said the diffuser is a completed new one despite it is not a triple diffuser. Do you think the version appearing in the picture is a complete new one?

Yes. But it was just a mistery about it... By the way, if it makes the car faster, then it's okay, but I don't think that there will be a significant step forward...

But teams have right to test new upgrade in FW anyway.

If true I would not be surprised at all and Brawn will have to hang his head in shame, to allow such shenanigans happen. Equal treatment my @rse.

It's an evolution, with clear changes to the upper deck, but also the lower deck:

Better pic:
http://motorsport.nextgen-auto.com/gallery...1mar/104wri.jpg

In F1 aero, it's often small subtle changes that make a significant difference.

Slow down with the conspiracy theories, actually Rosberg him self said that the he won't share everything with MS, things that he knows will be crucial and that MS doesn't know like tyre setup tricks.

Does not live up to the hype

if it was true old Keke would already whine to the media. OR he, wait he just did it?

disappointed with merc updates

I'm sure Schumacher is already pumping Heidfeld for that sort of info.

The changes do not have to be visible or be visibly radical for it to constitute a step forward.

http://motorsport.nextgen-auto.com/gallery...1mar/105wri.jpg

Rozberg for sure was not happy,that he didn't participate in a Big 5 press conference. I personally prefer Heidfeld than Rozberg, Heidfeld is more mature. 12 hours.

how do you know it wasn't Rosberg that wants his data hidden...he is the one with the most recent experience...

You do know this is a competition don't you - I wouldn't show my competition anything that I thought could help them.

That is a fair point and not for one second did I believe it could be Rosberg. My point is, there should not be any friction longer than 2 seconds. It is share and share alike.

this is so stupid. such crap claims by journalists. who really knows what is shared between drivers, its all written down junk that is circulated and twisted around without any proof.

you would think rosberg would know a lot more about the tyres then schumacher considering schumacher hasn't driven slicks since he tested the F2008.



anyways
new diffusor doesn't look drastic as some claimed it would be.

Nicke. Ok, now give that guy a car* to drive!

*(competitive 2010 F1 car in the 2010 championship, ofc )

Looking the same for me! No new diffuser?

Sorry but McLaren brought more updates between Barcelona and Bahrain than Mercedes did from the first testing day untill today

And what did you expect from BAR/Honda team (currently Mercedes), from people who produced lots of dogs and only ONE bloody fast car in their whole history ??
EHM, sorry, I just jumped into basher skin for a moment .

Either Merc are playing some game or something has seriously gone wrong.

But, you have to give Brawn, MS, Merc and Hauge too much respect to dismiss them. They should be up there.

This diffusor mania is amusing. It does not have to look radical to be more effective btw.

Just wanted to point that out. That will be a very hard year for Mercedes. I wouldn´t be surprised to see only one of their cars in Q3 this weekend

Whatever the cars look, if they are quick enough to win then I do not care. But before tomorrow even the quai, you can not judge which car is the best during the big 4. So let us wait for half of day.

Very poor rate of development from Mercedes. Is that it? All that development held back for an additional couple of weeks in the windtunnel and that is all that is produced?

The diffuser is also slightly modified.

Not really that surprised though. If it wasn't tested at Barcelona it wouldn't of been major.

and you know this how? you've examined all the bits on both cars or gotten a list from the engineering teams? or because all updates are visible or have pictures taken of them?

oh god, kindergarten here!!!

Disgusting behaviour.

Same old same old.

darth vader

People should learn that wri2 links are as session closed some time later.

So, that's it for the stories of whole new car (and for 0.8s gain, I assume)

so enjoy it while you can... the thread will be flooded with whining messages about the car they showed today, so it doesn't matter

No matter which way you try to slice it, it's not good teamwork. The drivers should be trying to push each other fowards not hold each other back.

edit - That's if the rumour is true.

Is it possible that their Big Suprise promised for Bahrain is actually not ready yet, or something went horribly wrong, and device is worthless?

the question is rather, why they would show their new equipment before FP1

And why would they show their old equipment the day before FP1 ?? To fool others ?? I don't think so. They had to have time to mount all this parts to the car so that it's ready for tommorow. So don't fool yourself. This is what they have.

I really would like to argue with you...but i rather wait 9 hours

I was wondering what if they will use the old diffuser in FP1 and then install the new super diffuser for FP2, see which one proves to make the car faster and then use that on SAT FP3 and Quali and Race. Just wondering...

They have tested new upgrades in Rockingham and they have said their cars would upgrade until Bahrain before Valencia test. There is no reason they could not take their new upgrades. If not ready yet, Schumi won't say he will fight for title in Bahrain during the press conference today. He is not a man who likes exaggerating car's performance at least.

Can't see this happening because to change diffuser you have to change whole floor since these parts are connected. And to change floor means to rebuild whole car, so what would be the point of running in FP1 just to run different car in FP2 ??

well they might put on the old stuff for comparison... but time is running out, and the track will be filled with LOT more cars compared to the testing sessions in february

i know what changing a diffuser involves, i was just hoping. I can't really see why then from the start of pre-season testing they said a new diffuser was going to be introduced in Bahrain, I am not sure but I think i saw a pic of their diffuser and it looked different from what they had in Barcelona.

I agree with that. There are a lot of little aero changes to the car. The diffusor may start more towards the front of the car allowing for a larger expansion volume. There are small winglet/vortex generators added, some removed, the exhaust covers are new, and the side wings look slightly newer. There are gurney flaps on the top deck of the diffusor. I'm sure there are more updates as well.

i have to agree with you, it's not the diffuser that suddenly makes a car better, it's a whole package and whilst we may not see all the changes, they came to Bahrain with a lot of new aero parts attached to the car. And yes, regarding the diffuser it might start more towards the front of the car, maybe they have some magic floor.

If the final version diffuser looks like the old one, but it is properly much more effective also. Because I still believe Brawn and he said we have "a completed new diffuser" in a video. Despite the appearance is similar with old one, maybe this is what Brawn said not radical but new(effective)

Schumacher didn't say anythig of that on today's press conference!

damn, the Schumacher bashing may have to be put on hold

wrong again

Q. You are a two-time winner here. What are your feelings about this circuit?

MS: Making it three.