That means that Mclaren and Mobil will probably tighten up their partnership.

Mobil 1 isn't a title sponsor at McLaren either, so that means it wants to spend less on its F1 campaign, than Petronas.

On a sidenote, even if Exxon Mobil / Mobil 1 would hope more success from McLaren than from Mercedes, the Petronas title sponsorship cuts its possibility to sponsor Mercedes.

That doesn't make that pic any prettier

is Petronas title sponsor of mercedes? (petronas-mercedes)

haha, I love how they have extended the front winglets on the front wing to accommodate the full Petronas name. You can see from this animated photo from F1Wolf.com.

i really hope they wont use that turquoise on the car livery, it sucks with the silver
tbh i don't think there will be any turquoise color on the car, just look at the bmws of the last years

Good point, I was just about to post this as a possible guide

http://onnycar.com/wp-content/uploads/2008..._7f46bc62a4.jpg

But I'm sure BMW is more of a marker point, this photo Mercedes released is just a promotional picture.

I don't like the sound of the Silver and Turqoise Arrows.

I'm sure all the people that were here moaning last year about:

A) No to little sponsorship (Plainish white car)
B) Moaners saying the flu yellow was garish

Will be back soon to be hyper critical about the car being too full of sponsors or all the colours being wrong. Seems now that Brawn GP has become Mercedes GP it would be ok to see a Full Silver Arrow with no sponsors.

It looks to me like the Fluidity stripe (Yellow and Black) that went down the car may stay for 2010 just being replaced with Turqoise and Black looking at those mock ups, but we will have to wait and see.

petronas used to be a very loyal sponsor of bmw(more then a decade sponsorship), jumping over to mercedes, when even lotus is in the game, just shows the attractiveness of the new team thanks to michael

I think that was already out of the question. Mobil 1 made an announcement that they would stay loyal to Mclaren some days ago.

Turquoise sucks as a color on its own, let alone with other colors. I really hope they leave it out. It makes the car look cheap.

don't know how reliable this is, but f1fanatic claims:



in the interview above it, haug says:

Yea i'm pretty confident Keith is on the money there and Petronas will be listed in the offical team name.

From the Mercedes-Benz Motosport web site:

PETRONAS New title partner to Mercedes GP Formula One Team


Edit: Bold.

So I guess I'm the only one that actually likes that livery.

I like it too, but it stills undeveloped. So maybe we'll see something a little different in Valencia.

If a company wants a deal with Schumi [by guess]

Well, but Petronas don´t come at Mercedes because of Michael. It´s because of a back-to-back transaction. It has to do with the oil business

I like the Torquise color aswell.......i think it will be fantastic
Those Porsche 911 in Asian racing series with Torquise color was just mind blowing

what is that "#Mio" on his dress?

This is the price, if your name should take place on his dress

Mio = million. It is a suggested cost to place a sponsor patch on Schuey.

I think the reason why Mercedes entered into this sponsorship agreement is not necessarily because it is more lucrative, it is because Mobil 1 is tied to Mclaren and Mercedes confirmed last week that they are unable to take away sponsors from Mclaren which I suspect is due to a signed agreement between Mclaren and Mercedes.

Petronas annouced recently that they are not interested in sponsoring any F1 team so they must be getting a real good deal from Mercedes to change their stance not the other way round - I think.

This IMHO is the next best thing for Mercedes.

or rather mercedes is a very attractive place to advertise atm, since the possible return of MS

The Petronas quote from last week was mistranslated or misinterpreted. They never said they were not going to sponsor another team. Quite the opposite.

They said:
This is exactly what they're getting from the Mercedes deal.

Or Petronas is just sticking with Heidfeld...

Or Petronas is just sticking with Heidfeld...

I doubt Petronas joing Mercedes has anything to do with MS, who isn't even confirmed yet, I would think it would be more to do with Mercedes and a good price.

I had hoped they would have gone to lotus, but ohwell atleast Mac keeps Mobil.

MS associated with Petronas is a marketer's dream, imho it has everything to do with MS

With Renault sticking around and MS on the verge of a come back, things look better for the sport after some recent teams like Toyota going away.

No one saw Mercedes coming in like this, with this much power, this is excellent news.

True, they will get plenty of publicity with the association with Schumacher, but the Mercedes brand is a draw too. In fact it is a more recognisable global brand than Schumacher.

Mercedes statement on Henkel issue:

according to the german bild, the petronas deal is worth 250 mill. euro (over 5 years, so 50 mill a year)

Wow, sounds great. I've heard that still one major sponsor-deal is on the pipeline.

According to motorsport.com, Jock Clear is Rosberg's race engineer, and Andrey Shovlin will be Schumacher's.

Just think that roughly a year back when it looked like the Honda team was going to disappear what would have been thought if someone on the forum posted

"Well I think Brawn will take charge in a management buyout, they will win the world titles at their first stab, then get bought out by Mercedes and Schumacher will be brought out of retirement to race for them as a dream German team"

??? Would we think they had been at the Christmas sherry trifle too soon?

Amazing.

f1enigma

Mercedes GP conference call about lineup in a couple of hours!

Not strictly 2010 perhaps, but word has it that Vettel has signed a deal to join Mercedes for 2011. According to Stuart Codling, he of F1 Racing fame: http://www.stuartcodling.com/2009/12/schum...ck-for-no-good/

Stuart Codling is clearly a twat of considerable magnitude.

Bit harsh noi?

His comments were, yes, definitely.

Bitter even. The good of Michael's return to the sport is incalculable. After 3 years of ugly partisan political nonsense people are going to be talking about the battles on track.

The old guard, Button, Webber, Barrichello, Schumacher versus the new era Vettel, Hamilton, Massa. Codling to dribble such bilious nonsense shows how little he cares about fan's enjoyment of the sport.

10/10 for completely and utterly missing the point of my original post.

Nothing like kicking a hack in the nuts when you don't agree with them!

I don't think you can read what that twerp has written and get any other impression that he is an imbecile. I mean, the arguments are well worn now, but nothing he's written there is specific only to Schumacher (indeed there's a particular driver in F1 now, that Codling is all moist about that has the same qualities).

To wish someone poorly, as such, is pretty average. Particularly when that person's return will help undo much of the damage partisan hackery from his ilk have wrought on the sport in these past 3 years.

Grow a set of balls and tell him so on his blog then?

Kar, I can't fault your burning passion for Schumacher!

But writing something you don't agree with doesn't make him an imbecile, it just makes him someone who has written something you don't agree with!

Anyway, onwards...

For the record I was no fan of Schumacher at Ferrari but am incredibly glad to have him back in the sport.

Age heals old wounds, and I think Schumacher will be an excellent elder statesman with a great chance of picking up another World Championship.

Jacques Laffite was still quite quick into his 40s, and he wasn't nearly as dedicated as Schumacher to fitness.

Mansell was also pretty damned handy at Adelaide 1994, so lets hope Schumacher can do the same.

Have. Awaiting moderation :-)

Oh, well that's me told then!

Will Mercedes have identical engines to Mclaren or will they get newer released sooner then them?

Kar, a question... Have you ever met Schumacher, and how did you react?

I met him at the Shell-Ferrari press conference in central Melbourne in 2004 (there is a public area you could get in an watch) and he come over and signed a few autographs.

Seemed cool, from my two second meeting!