And I hope Jenson will not play Brawn. The man who made him a champion.
Even if he decides to go to McLaren, I hope Jenson has some decency left to properly finalize talks with Ross.
What Brawn is saying is that Jenson has NOT cut off negotiations with them.

The problem with this dig at Button is that you now have to square the ridiculous charge that he is one of the most disloyal drivers in the pitlane (the Williams-BAR fiasco) with the fact that he has demonstrated he is possibly the most loyal driver in the pitlane (the pay cut to stay at a desperate Brawn despite secure offers).

Sure as hell started to rate him a whole lot more when it became apparent that the dude has actually some serious and reasonable offers from other competitive teams. Ross is many things but 'nice' in this situation he isn't.

McLaren is not playing anyone now. They probably were playing with the Button option to get Raikkenon lower their price. If they make an offer to Button, it's an straight forward offer. I feel Button will eventually sign with Brawn, with or without a better offer from Mclaren. I think Brawn's confident in that too.

Ahh the optimistic gullibility no offence BTW. McLaren has a realistic chance to give a magnitude 7 gut punch to the just-about-to-emerge superteam in Formula One that BTW ditched them in favor of another, while effectively eliminating one of their bigger threats as a driver-team front. This is all as much as taking Button FROM Brawn than it is to getting him on their side. Come to think of it, they rather have Button sit the year out, have 2 sock puppets drive Mercedes than having the reigning world champion sitting alongside on the grid next year in another car. It's a sly game. It's being played on all fronts.

Just imagine the launches. McLaren one "and signed with us the reigning WDC Jenson Button, alongside 2008 WDC Lewis Hamilton (on the photo between them a car with number 1 on it) are about to embark on a journey to bring the WCD and WCC crowns back to our garage." Mercedes "the heritage of Juan Manuel Fangio brings back the name Rosberg and our lifelong protege Heidfeld who both have shown great promise in formula one and with the Mercedes name we are sure that will live up to the promise soon and will make the Mercedes Silver Arrow as prominent force in the 21st century as it was in the 1950-ies!" It is in fact funny as hell. Tell me they (mercedes) weren't played like a 2 dollar banjo by McLaren then.

Image is everything in that particular sport, even more so when you are a manufacturer. Remember what happened to all the manufacturer teams when they publicly lost face? Yes, indeed.

Will you get real and stop looking at things in black and white ?
You want to know who is being the dick in this situation ?
Ross, not jenson.
Ross made jenson a WDC ?
Well that works both ways matey.
Look at what both jenson AND rubens done for Mr Ross Brawn !!
Without those two, and more so jenson, Brawn Gp would be NOTHING.
Ross has just become one of the richest men in great britain thanks to what those LOYAL drivers and honda money achieved.
So give the jenson bashing a rest, ross should feel ashamed of himself in my opinion.
Because just what standard of driver would they have had without jenson and rubens ?
Most certainly not two drivers that would have delivered the WDC and the WCC !
So jenson is being greedy yet i only see one or two multi millionars from that one season.
They should shut there traps, pay him in line with the other WDC´s and get on with it.
To hear them spanking there lips ( ross and fry ) about being sensible in the current economic climate smacks of very bad taste when they have just got millions from the buy out.

Yes, they've been saying 'take it or leave it" for months - it looks like Button finally took them at their word. I guess he could still sign for Mercedes, but I reckon they've played this badly enough that he no longer feels valued there. It seems a bit late to start making overtures to Button once he's agreed terms with McLaren.

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Have they? Are there any reports on that?

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With my intention that my critic goes to FRY.

Agree 100%. Brawn has at least as much reason to be grateful to Button as vice versa, yet he's not demonstrated any commitment to the driver (or to Barrichello for that matter). I don't really want to see Button in McLaren, but who could blame him for jumping ship with the signals that Brawn/Mercedes have been sending out.

the irony being that if Brawn had dug into his pockets on day 1 and paid what Button is clearly worth he would have kept McLaren out of the frame and not become involved in a Dutch auction.....

"Ross Brawn stands to make £100m profit in 12 months after Mercedez-Benz announced they are taking over the Brawn GP Formula"

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/motorsport...one/8363696.stm

I dont need that to know that when you sell a company you do so for money.
Of course he has just made a killing, along with fry, who was also a share holder !

Again... Ross was hedging. He probably hoped to be holding on for the future WDC and hoping to kick out the other one. Turned out Rubens got tired of waiting and Jenson started putting his bets on becoming a WDC. They are all evil bastards there.

Jenson is already a millionaire and he will be getting millions more. If he leaves the team because Mclaren pays him 2 million more, I will loose respect for him.
If he's doing it for sporting reasons, I will understand.
Hundreds of people have lost their job so he could retain a drive. He became champion because of the great car that was engineeered for him. What about all those engineers. and other workers? F1 is a team sport.

I don't idolize drivers, which thankfully helps me to take a more level headed look at this.

And BTW. Many people are assuming that the 123 million pounds will be pocketed by Brawn and co, but I'm pretty sure that is not the case.

Button's lucky, if not for the collapse of the Raikkonen negotiation, he hardly has any leverage against Brawn.

Yet, with the collapse of the Raikkonen negotiation he has all the leverage. Funny how these things turn out. When Ross is faced with the possibility of having two sock puppets driving his cars next year he is singing a different tune alltogether.

Well, if he knows that McLaren want him only because they didn't reach an agreement with Kimi and that the whole team will work around LH and he doesn't care, I guess in that case going to McLaren is a good choice.

What's the f***ing difference? If Brawn doesn't really want him and if McLaren even somewhat wants him it's not that hard a decision is it?

Level headed ?
No you had a slanted view and bash at jenson, you seem to think jenson should be the only one thankfull.
It as i said works both ways, hundreds of people lost there jobs so ross could sell out after only a year and pocket millions in the process.
See what i did there ?
As i said, you see things in black and white, its not, many people beinifited from all this, but the top two were ross and nick fry.

What if he does leave because he is being offered less than the non-race-winning co driver that appears to be of correct nationality and tends to stuff up when he has a serious chance in winning a race? Ever pondered about such a scenario?

He should pocket the money, he turned a dead duck around and made it worth all that money by some good decisions, otherwise it could have been curtains for all of them. You make it sound like he's almost stealing it. Are you a communist?

Button has a terrible track record of picking the next career opportunity, he might be well be making another blunder if he doesn't take Brawn's advice. Perhaps the money is worth more than another WDC though? He ain't going to get one at McLaren against Hamilton ....

Andy

Oh really? Please enlighten us what good offers has he not taken that would have greatly furthered his career?


And you know this because of what?

another button fan i see
Fairly poor reply to be honest, so i dont have much of worth to respond with unfortunatly.

I don't get this blame game you guys are playing here.

Ross Brawn doesn't owe Jenson Button anything, where Button is free to ask for an amount that he thinks a WDC is worth for 2010.
Ross is looking out for Brawn GP/Mercedes GP (and himself) and Jenson and his manager try to negociate a seat in a good car for as much money as possible.

All adults and longtime F1 players looking to strike the best deal possible, there's no room for sentiments there.

BBC report it is confirmed!!!!

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/motorsport...one/8363892.stm

Hi, Ross! You're a team boss now! Welcome to the piranha club!

No sources, no-one availble for comment and suspiciously similar to The Daily Mail article that said it would be announced on Wednesday.

Well he has tried to change cars, to worse ones twice in the Williams and Honda dealings, only to be stopped by legal actions. He always wanted to move to a worse car ... why?

That's feeble. Ask your umpa lumpa's for help if you are stuck.

That makes it sounds like you have no answers to be honest, go on tell me why Brawn is so bad making money out of what he has done.

Andy

According to the bbc he's signed with mcalren now http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/motorsport...one/8363892.stm

BBC is one of the most trusted news sources outthere... if they say he has signed, I believe he has

Well, good luck to him.




Lol!

http://www.motorsport-total.com/f1/splitte...n_09111804.html

according to their source he has signed also. well bye bye button, your reputation and career will be gone after one year, but i quess you are not intelligent enough to see what will happen
Hamilton is god in mclaren , he has different wishes to the car, and they will be followed you can be sure. I cant believe you are that stupid. Button at my team what a joke i preferred almost everyojne else

Until I see him sat next to Whitmarsh I'm not even going to worry about the bbc report. If anything, when reading it I got the impression that the bbc were hedging their bets and getting a story out there to be the ones who officially broke the news first.

Button is in an odd situation really: if he goes to Mclaren people think he'll get easily beaten by Hamilton, yet if he stays with Ross Brawn, it almost comes across as him shying away from the challenge of taking on Hamilton.

When Mercedes acquired Brawn, they got their facts wrong when they came to the relationship between McLaren and Mercedes. That wa two days ago.

My thoughts on whether Brawn (the bloke) or Brawn GP (the company) made any money on the Merc buy-in here, to save taking this thread OT: http://forums.autosport.com/index.php?s=&a...t&p=3999886

Yeah - BBC confirmation is good enough.

Shame - he will be lost in team McHamilton.

Answer to what being a comunist ?
Or if ross doesnt deserve the money ?
bloody kids, shouldnt you be back at school ?

Congrats Jenson.

One WDC is not so bad.

Blimey. Who'd have thought that at the start of the season, or even a month ago.

This forum makes me laugh some of you think you know everything dont you. saying things like congrats jenson career finished ect. Just cause he has moved teams means nothing you cant know what is going to happen.

If it's true, brave move from both parties there.

Both drivers are going to be provoked at every opportunity too, so I hope they're both able to keep their heads down and get on with their jobs. Jenson could still come out on top at the end of the season, but I hope Lewis is able to show some real class again next year.

What are the odds on Jenson having to lose that beard and on McLaren having to replace one driver for 2011 too?

Well expectations are that Button is going to be rubbished by Hamilton but didn't we think the same of Webber and Vettel? I think Button will be a fair match to Hamilton.

Nnnnnnnnnnnnooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

Good move for Jenson, he will be fighting for the title next year again and I think he could beat Lewis.

Three world champions in the three best cars next year will make it really interesting to watch, i'm looking foward to the first race.

What did they get wrong?