The AUTOSPORT Bulletin Board > Why not Schumacher to Mercedes GP (formerly Brawn GP)? (merged)

Johny Bravo

Dec 14 2009, 21:33

QUOTE (FlatOverCrest @ Dec 14 2009, 22:28)

But this is the second time I have seen the $20m figure bounced around.... Which would beg the question..is that figure true? Surely if they had that money to spend they would have put more effort to keep the Number 1 on their cars, or for that matter hired Kimi.... I suspect Schumi will indeed drive for Merc....but it is hard to believe this number being rumoured could be true...?

I believe Schumacher is worth every penny, considering the dozens of thousands of extra spectators he'll bring to races, and the millions in front of telly (who either cheer for or against him).

Merchandising sales shouldn't be forgotten either.

And he might even turn out to be a capable driver as well.

Gareth

Dec 14 2009, 21:34

The 2 key bits (for me) from that Mirror story:

1. It is from much earlier today:

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New team Lotus are expected to confirm ex-Toyota star Jarno Trulli as lead driver. McLaren refugee Heikki Kovalainen is expected to land the other seat under design ace Mike Gascoyne as chief technical officer.

2. It is based on "sources" (read: media reports) out of Germany and leaves them a massive out:

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the seven-time world champion has yet to sign on the dotted line, but sources in Germany say the deal has been done.

So I don't think it's adding any fuel to the fire. It's just recycled old news.

peroa

Dec 14 2009, 21:35

That's a good 1/3 of Merc's supposed 2010 budget, isn't it?

qvn

Dec 14 2009, 21:36

QUOTE (FlatOverCrest @ Dec 14 2009, 16:28)

Mirror Sport was the first to reveal the Jenson move to McLaren eh?

When people discuss certain Newspapers like the Daily Mail as being trash, compared to this rag, the Mail could be constituted as an intelligent read...

But this is the second time I have seen the $20m figure bounced around.... Which would beg the question..is that figure true? Surely if they had that money to spend they would have put more effort to keep the Number 1 on their cars, or for that matter hired Kimi.... I suspect Schumi will indeed drive for Merc....but it is hard to believe this number being rumoured could be true...?

I think the name "Schumacher" alone is worthy of that amount, let alone he will continue to lead Mercedes in winning path and in the same time tutor Nico to become a WDC in future. Remember MS is Nico's idol. MS is the reason why Mercedes (Brawn) was not too eager to keep Button.

dabrasco

Dec 14 2009, 21:39

im surprised that pple are still doubting if the comeback is gonna happen...

its only a matter of day(s) before it is made official

Stuko

Dec 14 2009, 21:42

QUOTE (Johny Bravo @ Dec 14 2009, 22:30)

Mirror states MS would get nearly Ł20M, the highest salary on the grid.

So in one week, Merc´s pocket needs... 20 for Michael and 27 to cover Henkel hole..... Hard to believe

sephiroth

Dec 14 2009, 22:03

QUOTE (FlatOverCrest @ Dec 14 2009, 22:28)

Mirror Sport was the first to reveal the Jenson move to McLaren eh?

When people discuss certain Newspapers like the Daily Mail as being trash, compared to this rag, the Mail could be constituted as an intelligent read...

But this is the second time I have seen the $20m figure bounced around.... Which would beg the question..is that figure true? Surely if they had that money to spend they would have put more effort to keep the Number 1 on their cars, or for that matter hired Kimi.... I suspect Schumi will indeed drive for Merc....but it is hard to believe this number being rumoured could be true...?

It doesn't matter who has number 1. If Schumacher races next year his team will get the most publicity by far, even if he under performs. Do you really think that Button or Kimi are bigger brands than Schumacher?

Italiano Tifoso

Dec 14 2009, 22:04

QUOTE (Talking Point @ Dec 13 2009, 12:11)

Nothing official yet then. Somehow, however strong these 'sources' claim to be, I won't believe it until there's an official announcement.

I don't think anyone is trying to convince you, this board is for people to share information, it is up to you to do with it as you see fit. I'm convinced of what will take place given the information i have.

Anomnader

Dec 14 2009, 22:08

QUOTE (Demo. @ Dec 14 2009, 19:38)

the big problem is if he performs how he used to trying to win by punting off people left right and centre or parking in the middle of a corner then he will clearly be remembered as a cheat who was supported by the FIA not a 7 times champion

Nothing he does now, good or bad will change anything in his past, neither good nor the bad.

as65p

Dec 14 2009, 22:11

QUOTE (Stuko @ Dec 14 2009, 22:42)

So in one week, Merc´s pocket needs... 20 for Michael and 27 to cover Henkel hole..... Hard to believe

Those numbers are way too high, in the german press they rank between 3.5 and 7 million Euros.

In Mercedes' place I'd probably starting to break a sweat at the 7 million mark, but anything below that will pay back easily through publicity alone. I mean think about it: if they had to pay for the amount of coverage they will get for free with MS driving one of their cars... it's a no-brainer, really.

All the time assuming they are smart enough to have a get-out clause in the contract in case of "health issues".

J2NH

Dec 14 2009, 22:22

QUOTE (qvn @ Dec 14 2009, 21:36)

I think the name "Schumacher" alone is worthy of that amount, let alone he will continue to lead Mercedes in winning path and in the same time tutor Nico to become a WDC in future. Remember MS is Nico's idol. MS is the reason why Mercedes (Brawn) was not too eager to keep Button.

Makes sense.
Win or lose his presence will generate tremendous buzz. He will be THE interview at each GP as well as every news editors photo choice. Always with a prominent Mercedes logo. You cannot buy that kind of advertising at any price.

FNG

Dec 14 2009, 22:53

I would think with MS in the team, Mercedes would dump as much money as they can to make it a winner. The PR of having MS in the team is massive and is probably the last time ANYONE will have this opportunity. I'm no MS fan either but I would think Merc will dump as much cash as it take to make them a winner.

Sunflower

Dec 14 2009, 23:21

QUOTE (sephiroth @ Dec 15 2009, 00:03)

It doesn't matter who has number 1. If Schumacher races next year his team will get the most publicity by far, even if he under performs. Do you really think that Button or Kimi are bigger brands than Schumacher?

I think Kimi has probable a bigger fan base but Schumacher will probable bring bigger money

AndreasF1

Dec 14 2009, 23:29

QUOTE (FNG @ Dec 15 2009, 05:53)

I would think with MS in the team, Mercedes would dump as much money as they can to make it a winner. The PR of having MS in the team is massive and is probably the last time ANYONE will have this opportunity. I'm no MS fan either but I would think Merc will dump as much cash as it take to make them a winner.

I fully agree! I was never a MS fan but respect where respect is due. Him signing with Mercedes GP must be a marketing departments early christmas present and easter combined. Him coming out of retirement will be amazing and all the stories about Kimi leaving, Toyota and BMW exit etc.. will be discussed on page 2 in future F1 newsprints.
Michael can really be seen as the savor of F1 in many ways. Could you imagine what would happen if he was in a season long battle for the championship beating Hamitlon and Alonso in the last round. It will be awesome!!!!!

Stuko

Dec 14 2009, 23:45

QUOTE (AndreasF1 @ Dec 15 2009, 00:29)

Him signing with Mercedes GP must be a marketing departments early christmas present and easter combined.

I agree. But double edged for Merc imho:
Ferrari+Schumy = 7WDC = mytical team, mytical driver
Mercedes+Schumy= ¿?¿?¿?¿?¿ if they´re not fighting for WDC, not very good marketing for Merc (..too exposed, as nobody will doubt Schumy class)

Raziel

Dec 14 2009, 23:50

QUOTE (dabrasco @ Dec 14 2009, 22:39)

im surprised that pple are still doubting if the comeback is gonna happen...

its only a matter of day(s) before it is made official

Yeah just like Kimi to McLaren

we know the outcome

DavidF1fan

Dec 14 2009, 23:51

QUOTE (buffbuff @ Dec 14 2009, 19:35)

I don't understand why some people (Button for example) think that this is a risk to MS's reputation if he comes back ? If he doesn't perform as expected then surely it can't take away from what he has achieved in the sport ? You can't start deducting from his 7 titles, and you can argue that at 41 his best years at peak performance have passed.

I was never a big fan of him but even if he comes back and fails to perform, I will not start thinking that he can't have been that good.

Am I alone with this line of thinking ?

No you make perfect sense. This will be a second career, totally separate to his first one. He will be strong hes still a very fit athelete who has been racing regularily and beating the young hotshots in cart. I think he will beat Rosberg easily.

gerry nassar

Dec 15 2009, 00:04

Mercedes are not going to be dominant like Brawn were, so they need that additional boost that Schumacher would give them.

I for one could not stand Schumacher back when he was at his best (1997-2000) nor did I like the dominant Ferrari years, but I cant help but want to support him against the new generation now that Kimi is gone.

And Schumacher at Mercedes would bring his career full circle!

hansmann

Dec 15 2009, 00:10

If Schumacher signs up, I think it will be a major win for the F1 community and the sport in general .

I don't understand why so many posters seem to disapprove of his comeback; he does well, we get a good show with lots of nailbiting sessions ; he does poorly, lots of drama, at least in the early part of the season , and then who cares. (The guy's richer than god and has been super-successful, he will live ).

However, if he has what it takes to challenge Mclaren, Red Bull, and Ferrari, and becomes a serious WDC contender - legendary .

For a fan, what's not to like, it's a win-win ?

dabrasco

Dec 15 2009, 00:10

QUOTE (Raziel @ Dec 15 2009, 00:50)

Yeah just like Kimi to McLaren

we know the outcome

this is way way advanced than the Kimi negotiations ever got

do you want to make a bet on Schumi being announced as a Merc GP driver for 2010?

Raziel

Dec 15 2009, 00:10

Hamilton vs. Schumacher both powered by Mercedes-Benz! Clash of the Titans for the first time! OMG I can´t wait for first tests in february and race weekends...

gerry nassar

Dec 15 2009, 00:12

QUOTE (dabrasco @ Dec 14 2009, 17:10)

this is way way advanced than the Kimi negotiations ever got

do you want to make a bet on Schumi being announced as a Merc GP driver for 2010?

Agreed. I think Kimi made up his mind to leave before the Merc-Button breakup - hence he only flirted with the Merc idea. But this looks like discussions have gone on for some time and we could have a positive outcome soon.

Raziel

Dec 15 2009, 00:13

QUOTE (dabrasco @ Dec 15 2009, 01:10)

do you want to make a bet on Schumi being announced as a Merc GP driver for 2010?

No because I know that everything's possible in F1

Anonymous

Dec 15 2009, 00:36

20mio??? What a joke!

George Costanza

Dec 15 2009, 00:44

QUOTE (Raziel @ Dec 14 2009, 19:10)

Hamilton vs. Schumacher both powered by Mercedes-Benz! Clash of the Titans for the first time! OMG I can´t wait for first tests in february and race weekends...

Schu wins that easily.

SeanValen

Dec 15 2009, 00:46

QUOTE (pUs @ Dec 13 2009, 16:43)

Very much agreed on all points, nothing to add, EXCELLENT

QUOTE (Anomnader @ Dec 13 2009, 18:37)

They're invisible because they've off on holiday, sensational, going a bit far.

I thought Luca wasn't going far when he said Schumacher was from another planet, you can never go too far with Schumi, his best drives still leave a huge void, to have a genius still having the will to drive, it's not just sensational, but super sensational, as much as his ferrar title of Super Assistent to Ferrari after he retired. HE'S A ALL TIME F1 SUPERSTAR, AND BIGGEST STAR THE SPORT HAS EVER HAD AND HE'S ALMOST BACK!!!!!

ONLY SCHUMACHER COULD SHOCK US TWICE IN A YEAR, WHAT A STAR.

QUOTE (Menace @ Dec 13 2009, 21:34)

Come on Schumacher, make the comeback!

Then I can root for you and Vettel come next year. Of course, I will also hope Heikki can turn his career around with a drive at Lotus.

SaenValen, Excellent!

Excellent

If it truelly becomes official, I'll have to refuse to work on Sundays again, it'll be worth it, formula one is about to get injected with a adrenaline boost it hasn't had since Michael flanked those fastest laps at Brazil 2006 as if the devil was on his back, overtaking Kimi in the Senna S, when the man is focused and is after a target, its like watching a artist carve out his masterpiece, trying to get as close to perfection as possible. Michael never stops learning, talent meets extreme work ethic, this stuff makes him feel more alive then any material thing he owns, that's who he is, you could sense it in his quotes and body language, hiding it for a while, then bringing it to the surface this year. I

Michael drives with such pride, a true gladiator.

2009, Jenson Button won the title, but a legend rised to the forefront to reawaken f1 boards, fans, public and anyone who stops to admire a genius at work.

From Seven up Green, to Blue Benetton Kaiser, Red Ferrari Baron and now going back to the beginning, full circle THE Slverarrow Baron

To qoate Patrick Swayze's Bodi from Point Break "100 percent pure adrenaline rush." Michael is a searcher, always exploring the limits, it's like a sixth sense, as much as surfer wants the ultimate waves, Michael wants 4 wheels beneath him, feel the adhesion and grip, and go one better then you did on the last lap, even Fernando Alonso once said" it makes you feel invisable" P1, be fastest then them all on the day, and how can you not enjoy it, Schumacher's podiums and leaps were a celebration of how a man or woman in this life should treat their successes, by ENJOYING THE MOMENT

Ferrari, Mercedes, f1 history books, Senna's recorded great pole laps all will be stardust ashes once the planet goes boom with the supernova, leaving no road on site for any rubber to be laid down in the universe, life is short, race hard while you can. Where there is a will, there is a way.

AndreasF1

Dec 15 2009, 01:06

QUOTE (hansmann @ Dec 15 2009, 06:10)

I don't understand why so many posters seem to disapprove of his comeback; he does well, we get a good show with lots of nailbiting sessions ; he does poorly, lots of drama, at least in the early part of the season , and then who cares. (The guy's richer than god and has been super-successful, he will live ).

However, if he has what it takes to challenge Mclaren, Red Bull, and Ferrari, and becomes a serious WDC contender - legendary .

For a fan, what's not to like, it's a win-win ?

I think the answer to that is that alot of the nay sayers are new to F1 and haven't really appreciated or even seen Schumacher race. To fully appreciate a legend you had to be part of the legend creation process. If you just started to follow F1 a few years ago it would be difficult to value MS's presence and his impact on F1. Alot of the opinions are formed around the negative impressions they have gotten from the media and from hearing other people talk about him beeing a cheat etc..
I would welcome the comeback with open arms because its great to revive some of that Schumacher nostalgia created over the last 17 years and if nothing else I really like to see how he can stack up against Hamilton and Vettel.

AndreasF1

Dec 15 2009, 01:12

QUOTE (SeanValen @ Dec 15 2009, 06:46)

I thought Luca wasn't going far when he said Schumacher was from another planet, you can never go too far with Schumi, his best drives still leave a huge void, to have a genius still having the will to drive, it's not just sensational, but super sensational, as much as his ferrar title of Super Assistent to Ferrari after he retired. HE'S A ALL TIME F1 SUPERSTAR, AND BIGGEST STAR THE SPORT HAS EVER HAD AND HE'S ALMOST BACK!!!!!

ONLY SCHUMACHER COULD SHOCK US TWICE IN A YEAR, WHAT A STAR.

Excellent

If it truelly becomes official, I'll have to refuse to work on Sundays again, it'll be worth it, formula one is about to get injected with a adrenaline boost it hasn't had since Michael flanked those fastest laps at Brazil 2006 as if the devil was on his back, overtaking Kimi in the Senna S, when the man is focused and is after a target, its like watching a artist carve out his masterpiece, trying to get as close to perfection as possible. Michael never stops learning, talent meets extreme work ethic, this stuff makes him feel more alive then any material thing he owns, that's who he is, you could sense it in his quotes and body language, hiding it for a while, then bringing it to the surface this year. I

Michael drives with such pride, a true gladiator.

2009, Jenson Button won the title, but a legend rised to the forefront to reawaken f1 boards, fans, public and anyone who stops to admire a genius at work.

From Seven up Green, to Blue Benetton Kaiser, Red Ferrari Baron and now going back to the beginning, full circle THE Slverarrow Baron

To qoate Patrick Swayze's Bodi from Point Break "100 percent pure adrenaline rush." Michael is a searcher, always exploring the limits, it's like a sixth sense, as much as surfer wants the ultimate waves, Michael wants 4 wheels beneath him, feel the adhesion and grip, and go one better then you did on the last lap, even Fernando Alonso once said" it makes you feel invisable" P1, be fastest then them all on the day, and how can you not enjoy it, Schumacher's podiums and leaps were a celebration of how a man or woman in this life should treat their successes, by ENJOYING THE MOMENT

Ferrari, Mercedes, f1 history books, Senna's recorded great pole laps all will be stardust ashes once the planet goes boom with the supernova, leaving no road on site for any rubber to be laid down in the universe, life is short, race hard while you can. Where there is a will, there is a way.

BRING IT ON. 2010 could be one of the most memorable F1 racing years since 1993!!!

Johny Bravo

Dec 15 2009, 01:52

One of the most exciting aspects of the possible comeback is that we wouldn't need to debate next year "who's better, Schumacher of Brawn?*".

*: as if they were comparable.

Wade

Dec 15 2009, 05:04

Any new link/source claiming this is done? Sick of waiting already, damnit.

vipul_singh

Dec 15 2009, 05:23

If it does not happen the second time (after the talks post Massa's accident), I would be sorely disappointed. So while hoping for the best, I am also preparing for bad news.

As for judging success or failure, I would consider his return a success if he is significantly faster than Nico. After all, we did not doubt Michael's abilities when he had a less-than-stellar season at Ferrari in 1996, did we?

fastdriver

Dec 15 2009, 05:44

QUOTE (BiH @ Dec 14 2009, 01:49)

the only flaw with schumacher is that he will win at all costs and that is why he is a sore loser. so if he comes back he will be taking it extremely seriously to prove to everyone.

I agree. I don't think MS races 'for fun'. He races to win and when he's not winning, well, let's just say he is not the nicest of drivers...
Yes having him back would be EPIC! but to think he'll be 'relaxed' and 'driving for fun' is pure delusion, which is why I am not too happy about him coming back

.

lafitek

Dec 15 2009, 06:24

QUOTE (Galko877 @ Dec 14 2009, 18:45)

Did you see how Rubens actually got ahead of Michael? Team "favoured" him through 1st pitstop?

As for forcing Rubens onto the grass. Rubens was simply stupid and outbreaking himself: http://auto.indavideo.hu/video/Forma-1_2005_Indianapolis

he was not allowed to win USA 2005..team orders!! he was faster than schumi in race

with only six cars in the race schumacher need team orders

fastdriver

Dec 15 2009, 06:30

Can anyone tell me where I can post:

My wish for 2010

Vettel > Hamilton > Kovaleinen

> Rosberg > Heidfeld (if he gets Merc seat) > Kubica > Schumacher (if he gets the Merc seat) = Webber > Alonso > Massa = Button > the rest…

Then in 2011 Raikkonen will come back and beat them all…

Ok I know this is not the place for this, but I was wanted my wish to be noted somewhere

WebBerK

Dec 15 2009, 06:32

QUOTE (Johny Bravo @ Dec 14 2009, 23:52)

One of the most exciting aspects of the possible comeback is that we wouldn't need to debate next year "who's better, Schumacher of Brawn?*".

Really

I thought it would the main point if Mercedes turns into a SilverFAIL.
Look at the all remaining members of the dream team.

> Rory went out of F1 and came back last year to diagnose what went wrong in 2009.
> Ross Brawn became team owner and imediate WDC amd WCC.
> Jean Todt became FIA maestro.
> Rubens kept being fast and a good car developer, becming WCC again... and out of Ferrari..

What I mean is Brawn and Todt achieved the pinnacle of their professions.
IF Mercedes fails to succed with MS aboard, who would be the one to blame ?

lafitek

Dec 15 2009, 06:36

if I will be Montezemolo....I will have the next solution for Michael for 2010:

Massa is released by ferrari to race with mercedes for 10 mil $ (7 by Mercedes + 3 by ferrari)
2nd seat in Ferrari is free for Schumacher for 7 mil. $ to race alonside Alonso in equal terms the money is not important for him he needs racing Real racing

WebBerK

Dec 15 2009, 06:44

QUOTE (lafitek @ Dec 15 2009, 04:36)

if I will be Montezemolo....I will have the next solution for Michael for 2010:

Massa is released by ferrari to race with mercedes for 10 mil $ (7 by Mercedes + 3 by ferrari)
2nd seat in Ferrari is free for Schumacher for 7 mil. $ to race alonside Alonso in equal terms the money is not important for him he needs racing Real racing

MonteZ just said that Massa is the symbol of Ferrari recover in 2010.

rookie

Dec 15 2009, 06:58

QUOTE (buffbuff @ Dec 15 2009, 05:35)

I don't understand why some people (Button for example) think that this is a risk to MS's reputation if he comes back ? If he doesn't perform as expected then surely it can't take away from what he has achieved in the sport ? You can't start deducting from his 7 titles, and you can argue that at 41 his best years at peak performance have passed.

I was never a big fan of him but even if he comes back and fails to perform, I will not start thinking that he can't have been that good.

Am I alone with this line of thinking ?

Nah, I'm with you. As you point out, a 15 year career spanning 7 titles and 91 wins make it pretty clear that he can drive. If he comes back next year and is shaded by rosberg or only scores a handful of points so what?

The mere fact that he is prepared to do it, raises him up a long way in my book, and if he pulls it off....well IMO its up there with rossi going to yamaha, Lance coming back to le tour etc.

schumaster

Dec 15 2009, 07:22

QUOTE (AndreasF1 @ Dec 15 2009, 02:06)

I think the answer to that is that alot of the nay sayers are new to F1 and haven't really appreciated or even seen Schumacher race. To fully appreciate a legend you had to be part of the legend creation process. If you just started to follow F1 a few years ago it would be difficult to value MS's presence and his impact on F1. Alot of the opinions are formed around the negative impressions they have gotten from the media and from hearing other people talk about him beeing a cheat etc..
I would welcome the comeback with open arms because its great to revive some of that Schumacher nostalgia created over the last 17 years and if nothing else I really like to see how he can stack up against Hamilton and Vettel.

Excellent points, AndreasF1 & Sean Valen!

fetzo

Dec 15 2009, 07:59

Well, i heard, that Mercedes is going to make an announcement tomorrow

schumaster

Dec 15 2009, 08:26

QUOTE (fetzo @ Dec 15 2009, 08:59)

Well, i heard, that Mercedes is going to make an announcement tomorrow

where did you hear this?

fastdriver

Dec 15 2009, 08:44

QUOTE (MikeTekRacing @ Dec 14 2009, 19:47)

schumacher wanted to drive..he informed luca
luca failed to get a 3rd car
schumacher left
alonso is just an employee. judging by the ending of one of his previous jobs and by the outcome of ferrari-kimi I doubt anybody would listen to a new employee..that has not yet proved anything in a ferrari

I wouldn't say FA is like any other 'new employee', he brings with him something that not many other 'new employees' bring with them....

...can anyone say "KA -CHING $$$!!!"....

Johny Bravo

Dec 15 2009, 08:45

QUOTE (WebBerK @ Dec 15 2009, 07:32)

Really

[...]
What I mean is Brawn and Todt achieved the pinnacle of their professions.
IF Mercedes fails to succed with MS aboard, who would be the one to blame ?

So You started that sh!te thread with your previous account. Thanks for the info.

Dalton007

Dec 15 2009, 08:49

I'll believe it when Michael is on the grid in Bahrain.

Jordana

Dec 15 2009, 08:59

QUOTE (Galko877 @ Dec 14 2009, 18:42)

That's one great thing about him leaving Ferrari.

Actually Kimi fans were lucky to have MS around. They could put the blame on him, instead of focusing on the shortcomings of their own guy.

Who was talking about any fans? I was talking about the driver himself.

glorius&victorius

Dec 15 2009, 09:25

-what about the neck?
-ferrari is fine with it, but what about other sponsors?

schumaster

Dec 15 2009, 09:32

Step by step towards Schumacher deal by James Allen...

http://www.jamesallenonf1.com/2009/12/step...-with-mercedes/

glorius&victorius

Dec 15 2009, 09:38

If he comes back no doubts he will be mentally and physically the best prepared driver out there. He will also be technically, tactically and strategically the best prepared driver out there with Ross by his side. They will give all attention to performance and extracting the maximum out of that package. He will live in Brackley and make it his home. This guy will not leave any stone unturned, will not leave anything to chance. He will not do this half prepared but come in full force.

The only one I think that has the will power to stop him is Alonso (because he is smart) if he has a good package for 2010. Hamilton might do a "Montoya" trying to beat the master too eagerly for 2010

I already feel sorry for Rosberg, he might be having an equal contract or whatever but he'll always be the third wheel on this Ross-Michael combo.
Rosberg should do a "Massa" for 2010 and not a "Barichello"

Wade

Dec 15 2009, 09:46

This quote is interesting from Allen's piece:

QUOTE

Intriguingly, Schumacher did not attend Ferrari’s Christmas party at the weekend and according to Gazzetta dello Sport, Montezemolo spoke about Raikkonen, Massa and Alonso but did not mention Schumacher.

Hmmm...

Galko877

Dec 15 2009, 09:48

QUOTE (Wade @ Dec 15 2009, 11:46)

This quote is interesting from Allen's piece:

Hmmm...

Why would he mention Schumacher. Räikkönen and Massa were the race drivers. Alonso is their coming race driver.
Did he mention Badoer and Gené?