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fastdriver
But why would he? MS has no been a SF driver for a long time now...and why the heck is he talking about KR, didn't he show him the door... mad.gif
dabrasco
lol the religious schumi fans jumping out the woodwork...

Im happy dude seems to be on his way back... while id expect him to handle Rosberg, I dont expect him to be performing magic or owning the rest of the grid....except Brawn build a "monster" like in 09....which I consider unlikely. Mclaren, Ferrari and Red Bull will have fast cars (atleast 2 out of the 3).
And Im pretty sure Schumi will have his hands full swatting off them "monkeys on his back".... and front.


One thing is for sure, it will be interesting... right from the first day of testing
fastdriver
QUOTE (Galko877 @ Dec 15 2009, 11:48) *
Why would he mention Schumacher. Räikkönen and Massa were the race drivers. Alonso is their coming race driver.
Did he mention Badoer and Gené?

I think he's pretending the whole Badoer thing never happened...

*edit
why do people talk about MS being given a good car...isn't he the ultimate guru in developing a good car? redface.gif
Muz Bee
QUOTE (glorius&victorius @ Dec 15 2009, 22:38) *
If he comes back no doubts he will be mentally and physically the best prepared driver out there. He will also be technically, tactically and strategically the best prepared driver out there with Ross by his side. They will give all attention to performance and extracting the maximum out of that package. He will live in Brackley and make it his home. This guy will not leave any stone unturned, will not leave anything to chance. He will not do this half prepared but come in full force.

The only one I think that has the will power to stop him is Alonso (because he is smart) if he has a good package for 2010. Hamilton might do a "Montoya" trying to beat the master too eagerly for 2010

I already feel sorry for Rosberg, he might be having an equal contract or whatever but he'll always be the third wheel on this Ross-Michael combo.
Rosberg should do a "Massa" for 2010 and not a "Barichello"

Five stars for one of the most over-the-top wish posts i have read lately. lol.gif I guess everyone else should announce their retirement now that 2010 WDC is decided.

Frans
Schumi "The Traitor".....

Nice name heh? ..... Michael traitor Schumacher ....... MtS. hmmmm ....

2010 bring it on...... there's a traitor in the field! smoking.gif
David1976
Well it just gets better....add in the return (reinstatement) of Silverstone plus the world cup final..

How about this for a mouth-watering prospect ....

Mercedes v McClaren followed by Germany v England ....

...and everyone home in time for tea and medals!!!!
Demo.
QUOTE (Johny Bravo @ Dec 14 2009, 20:09) *
I really envy You if that's your biggest problem.



thanks kiss.gif
In the end if he comes back it will introduce more people to F1 who may not have tuned in and if we are lucky some may even become fans of the sport.
love him or hate him thats good for the sport and good for everyone connected with the sport, incuding us the fans.
Nuvol
I cant stop laughing
QUOTE ( "The Cock")
My sources in Italy and Germany are now adamant that this deal is going to happen


TBH you dont have any sources you ****. Or I assume few days ago you forgot to check with them. roflmao.gif

This man is unbelievable.

the quote is from
http://www.jamesallenonf1.com/2009/12/step...-with-mercedes/
Rob
I wonder if the Henkel scrap will remind him of what environment he's coming back to and he'll decide to stay retired after all...
KiloWatt
QUOTE (Rob @ Dec 15 2009, 12:34) *
I wonder if the Henkel scrap will remind him of what environment he's coming back to and he'll decide to stay retired after all...


It occured to me as well....

To quote a part of the legendary Bad Boys II, "This is a stupid ****ing problem to have"
santori
QUOTE (Nuvol @ Dec 15 2009, 12:30) *
This man is unbelievable.


Because he doesn't know everything? Based on what he'd heard he didn't think Michael was coming back. Now based on what he's heard he thinks he probably is. It seems reasonable enough to me.
d246
QUOTE (glorius&victorius @ Dec 15 2009, 09:38) *
If he comes back no doubts he will be mentally and physically the best prepared driver out there. He will also be technically, tactically and strategically the best prepared driver out there with Ross by his side. They will give all attention to performance and extracting the maximum out of that package. He will live in Brackley and make it his home. This guy will not leave any stone unturned, will not leave anything to chance. He will not do this half prepared but come in full force.

The only one I think that has the will power to stop him is Alonso (because he is smart) if he has a good package for 2010. Hamilton might do a "Montoya" trying to beat the master too eagerly for 2010

I already feel sorry for Rosberg, he might be having an equal contract or whatever but he'll always be the third wheel on this Ross-Michael combo.
Rosberg should do a "Massa" for 2010 and not a "Barichello"


Hmmm. Bit OTT?! Living in Brackley?


craftverk
QUOTE (Nuvol @ Dec 15 2009, 10:30) *
I cant stop laughing

TBH you dont have any sources you ****. Or I assume few days ago you forgot to check with them. roflmao.gif

This man is unbelievable.

the quote is from
http://www.jamesallenonf1.com/2009/12/step...-with-mercedes/

you're a noob to his blog aren't you?
maverick69
QUOTE (Nuvol @ Dec 15 2009, 10:30) *
I cant stop laughing

TBH you dont have any sources you ****. Or I assume few days ago you forgot to check with them. roflmao.gif

This man is unbelievable.

the quote is from
http://www.jamesallenonf1.com/2009/12/step...-with-mercedes/


I think that unsustantiated personal attacks on James Allen is pretty sad TBH. He provides a wealth of insight and advance information - all for free. It's likely that he's forgot more about F1 than you probably know.
Galko877
QUOTE (Frans @ Dec 15 2009, 11:56) *
Schumi "The Traitor".....

Nice name heh? ..... Michael traitor Schumacher ....... MtS. hmmmm ....

2010 bring it on...... there's a traitor in the field! smoking.gif


Guess every driver who has ever changed teams is a traitor then. rolleyes.gif
Galko877
QUOTE (fastdriver @ Dec 15 2009, 11:51) *
why do people talk about MS being given a good car...isn't he the ultimate guru in developing a good car? redface.gif



The cars for 2010 must be almost ready by now. He won't have much input in that. Just like Alonso won't have much input in the Ferrari. etc.
Galko877
QUOTE (fastdriver @ Dec 15 2009, 11:50) *
But why would he? MS has no been a SF driver for a long time now...and why the heck is he talking about KR, didn't he show him the door... mad.gif



Räikkönen was still a Ferrari driver in 2009. Schumacher wasn't.
craftverk
QUOTE (Frans @ Dec 15 2009, 09:56) *
Schumi "The Traitor".....

Nice name heh? ..... Michael traitor Schumacher ....... MtS. hmmmm ....

2010 bring it on...... there's a traitor in the field! smoking.gif

it was Luca that forced him to stop racing in the first place
Frans
Yeah isn't that cool? Now he can also name him a traitor ....

hahahahaha, ... whatever he does, he cannot win......
Galko877
I think it was Bild who quoted Michael's doctor saying that no matter how many medical checks and tests they do, the real thing cannot be simulated. I think it's an old quote from the PC when they announced Schumi's witdrawal from replacing Massa. But I guess it's still the same. Rumour has it his neck should be OK now, but like back in August, nothing replaces the real thing: a test in a car.

It would be foolish from Michael and Mercedes to sign anything before knowing if he will be capable to drive at all. But the problem is the test ban. Bild speculates now that Michael could test a 2007 Honda in order to check out his neck. So I don't think we will have anything official before that test takes place. Any idea when and where it could take place? Or maybe it already has? Could they keep it in secret?
as65p
QUOTE (Galko877 @ Dec 15 2009, 12:54) *
It would be foolish from Michael and Mercedes to sign anything before knowing if he will be capable to drive at all.


Not really, they could include such a situation in the contract so that, in case his neck stops the show, the contract becomes null and void there and then. Only problem could be for Mercedes to get a halfway decent replacement in such a case, but that's probably a risk worth taking.
Group B
QUOTE (craftverk @ Dec 15 2009, 10:47) *
you're a noob to his blog aren't you?

Since when did pointing out that James Allen's a knob make you 'a noob'? confused.gif JA was being slated here long before you joined and will no doubt continue to be while he invites it upon himself. It's patently obvious that if his 'sources' were so great and insight so mighty then he wouldn't have to backtrack, change tack and contradict himself in the manner witnessed. I'd much prefer that he just admitted he doesn't know.
Red 5
QUOTE (Group B @ Dec 15 2009, 12:58) *
Since when did pointing out that James Allen's a knob make you 'a noob'? confused.gif

Ignore him, it doesn't. James Allen may have contacts and knowledge we'd all love to have but the fact is he is still a cock!
Ironically he isn't as big a cock as Legard and I almost wish the BBC had employed him. lol.gif
klover
QUOTE (Nuvol @ Dec 15 2009, 10:30) *
I cant stop laughing

TBH you dont have any sources you ****. Or I assume few days ago you forgot to check with them. roflmao.gif

This man is unbelievable.

the quote is from
http://www.jamesallenonf1.com/2009/12/step...-with-mercedes/

Why would you say he has no sources, he is a regular to the paddock and has extensive contacts. It's James Allen, not Chris Balfe who is running a website from his bedroom (allegedly).
klover
QUOTE (glorius&victorius @ Dec 15 2009, 09:38) *
If he comes back no doubts he will be mentally and physically the best prepared driver out there. He will also be technically, tactically and strategically the best prepared driver out there with Ross by his side. They will give all attention to performance and extracting the maximum out of that package. He will live in Brackley and make it his home. This guy will not leave any stone unturned, will not leave anything to chance. He will not do this half prepared but come in full force.

The only one I think that has the will power to stop him is Alonso (because he is smart) if he has a good package for 2010. Hamilton might do a "Montoya" trying to beat the master too eagerly for 2010

I already feel sorry for Rosberg, he might be having an equal contract or whatever but he'll always be the third wheel on this Ross-Michael combo.
Rosberg should do a "Massa" for 2010 and not a "Barichello"

Judging by who rattled who in 2007, I'd think Hamilton is a lot smarter and meaner than Alonso at mind games but feel free to believe otherwise. In the end I doubt it will come to smarts, more like who gets the best car. Oh, and MS, if he returns, will have to beat Rosberg first, and then worry about the others. His entry doesn't make him an automatic number 1 contender, as much as his fanboys would like to believe it.
craftverk
QUOTE (Group B @ Dec 15 2009, 12:58) *
Since when did pointing out that James Allen's a knob make you 'a noob'? confused.gif JA was being slated here long before you joined and will no doubt continue to be while he invites it upon himself. It's patently obvious that if his 'sources' were so great and insight so mighty then he wouldn't have to backtrack, change tack and contradict himself in the manner witnessed. I'd much prefer that he just admitted he doesn't know.

Hah what are you talking about? Did you read my post at all?

I know about the silly hate campaign which was and still is pathetic. It doesn't matter what people say, though, it really doesn't. What is known is that he has inside sources and that's only natural having been working in journalism since 1990.

He wasn't backtracking, he just stated reasons why he didn't think he would come back.


QUOTE
Ignore him, it doesn't. James Allen may have contacts and knowledge we'd all love to have but the fact is he is still a cock!
Ironically he isn't as big a cock as Legard and I almost wish the BBC had employed him. lol.gif

Since when did you learn to not be able to read?

Well according to my sources, JA is a human. stoned.gif
Galko877
Is this a James Allen thread?
Jose Mourinho is Special
For cry out lead the guy was an utter disgrace to the integrity and fair play of the sport. Do people not remember what he did at Adelaide? Jerez? Monaco? down.gif

Schumacher isn't a great champion and frankly, people will soon forget about him the sooner the latter.

Prost, Senna, Fangio will never be forgotten, these were the drivers that a true champions up.gif
UPRC
QUOTE
What's with the fuss about Schumacher's return?


This:

Championships: 7 (1994, 1995, 2000, 2001, 2002, 2003, 2004)
Wins: 91
Podiums: 154
Career points: 1,369
Pole positions: 68
Fastest laps: 76
Fubar1979
In your own opinion I think you need to put
CaptainJackSparrow
QUOTE (Jose Mourinho is Special @ Dec 15 2009, 14:07) *
For cry out lead the guy was an utter disgrace to the integrity and fair play of the sport. Do people not remember what he did at Adelaide? Jerez? Monaco? down.gif

Schumacher isn't a great champion and frankly, people will soon forget about him the sooner the latter.

Prost, Senna, Fangio will never be forgotten, these were the drivers that a true champions up.gif


I tend to agree, on the circuit it was hard to respect him (off the circuit he seems like a nice enough guy), but I guess people get blinded by the showbiz of it all.
primer
QUOTE (Jose Mourinho is Special @ Dec 15 2009, 14:07) *
For cry out lead the guy was an utter disgrace to the integrity and fair play of the sport. Do people not remember what he did at Adelaide? Jerez? Monaco? down.gif

Yes but MS was also very competitive and a fast driver. Even after retirement, his remains the 'face' most associated with F1 in public memory. Hence the excitement.

QUOTE (Jose Mourinho is Special @ Dec 15 2009, 14:07) *
Prost, Senna, Fangio will never be forgotten, these were the drivers that a true champions up.gif

You cannot criticise MS and then go about praising Senna. Have some credibility.
Group B
QUOTE (Jose Mourinho is Special @ Dec 15 2009, 14:07) *
For cry out lead the guy was an utter disgrace to the integrity and fair play of the sport. Do people not remember what he did at Adelaide? Jerez? Monaco? down.gif

Schumacher isn't a great champion and frankly, people will soon forget about him the sooner the latter.

Prost, Senna, Fangio will never be forgotten, these were the drivers that a true champions up.gif

As primer said, you sound utterly ridiculous describing MS as an 'utter disgrace' while referring to AS as a 'true champion'. You can't have your cake and eat it.
RedBaron
QUOTE (Jose Mourinho is Special @ Dec 15 2009, 14:07) *
For cry out lead the guy was an utter disgrace to the integrity and fair play of the sport. Do people not remember what he did at Adelaide? Jerez? Monaco? down.gif

Schumacher isn't a great champion and frankly, people will soon forget about him the sooner the latter.

Prost, Senna will never be forgotten, these were the drivers that a true champions up.gif


Yeh, Senna never took the chance to ram anyone off the circuit to take the championship.
Galko877
QUOTE (Jose Mourinho is Special @ Dec 15 2009, 17:07) *
For cry out lead the guy was an utter disgrace to the integrity and fair play of the sport. Do people not remember what he did at Adelaide? Jerez? Monaco? down.gif

Schumacher isn't a great champion and frankly, people will soon forget about him the sooner the latter.

Prost, Senna, Fangio will never be forgotten, these were the drivers that a true champions up.gif


Yawn!
Simon Says
MS is going to drive for Mercedes. If Ferrari is actually taking the time to comment on MS driving for Mercedes and saying that it's fine by them, something is definetly going on there. I don't think they would comment on internet speculation in the first place if it was non-sense tongue.gif
bonneville
QUOTE (Simon Says @ Dec 15 2009, 14:37) *
MS is going to drive for Mercedes. If Ferrari is actually taking the time to comment on MS driving for Mercedes and saying that it's fine by them, something is definetly going on there. I don't think they would comment on internet speculation in the first place if it was non-sense tongue.gif


On the contrary. If Ferrari is commenting, it could be that they know the deal won't realize and they don't want to be seen as those who barred MS to return racing in F1.

I still think the deal will be sealed and MS will race a Mercedes next March in Bahrein.
Jose Mourinho is Special
QUOTE (RedBaron @ Dec 16 2009, 01:33) *
Yeh, Senna never took the chance to ram anyone off the circuit to take the championship.
Senna took Alain out because he was pissed off with Balestre. Had Balestre changed the grid order of pole position, neither Prost or Senna would have collided at the first corner.

Besides Senna never lied to the fans, he told everyone before the race 'if you don't change the grid order, Prost and i won't make the first corner', which implied he was going to take Prost out. That's not lying, whereas Schumacher who pathetically denied he was not guilty at Monaco.

With Schumacher's case, he ran wide at the corner, and was suppose to make room for Hill to pass, since he had the inside line. And what did Schumacher do? Same story with Villeneauve.

Had FISA never victimised Senna none of this would have happened, whereas Schumacher most of the times got off lightly by the FIA, and he still persisted in his dirty tricks down.gif
Group B
QUOTE (Jose Mourinho is Special @ Dec 15 2009, 14:53) *
Senna took Alain out because he was pissed off with Balestre. Had Balestre changed the grid order of pole position, neither Prost or Senna would have collided at the first corner.

Besides Senna never lied to the fans, he told everyone before the race 'if you don't change the grid order, Prost and i won't make the first corner', which implied he was going to take Prost out. That's not lying, whereas Schumacher who pathetically denied he was not guilty at Monaco.

With Schumacher's case, he ran wide at the corner, and was suppose to make room for Hill to pass, since he had the inside line. And what did Schumacher do? Same story with Villeneauve.

Had FISA never victimised Senna none of this would have happened, whereas Schumacher most of the times got off lightly by the FIA, and he still persisted in his dirty tricks down.gif

Hmm, let's remind ourselves of the uber clean and noble Senna;

Japan 1989;

......on lap 47 Senna saw a chink of daylight up the inside at the chicane. He held off the brakes as late as possible and dived for the gap. It wasn't enough for a clean pass, but it was the sort of move Senna had made work many times before, simply by presenting the other driver with a stark choice. This time, as promised, Prost turned in. Clumsily. He knew he was going to take them both off; he knew that in doing so, he would become world champion . It was the sort of move that Senna wouldn't have hesitated in making ......

Japan 1990;


.......Still smarting from the previous year's events, Senna swore before the race: "If he gets to the first corner ahead of me, he ain't gonna make it round." And that's precisely what happened. Prost got a better start from the cleaner side of the track and led Senna into the first corner. But as the Frenchman lifted slightly to get round, Senna kept his foot hard down and simply smashed into the back of the Ferrari; taking both of them into instant retirement. Observers said the engine note of the Mclaren never wavered .....


Encyclopedia of F1.
Gareth
All: Schumacher to Mercedes is the topic, please. His past career will be relevant to that topic at times, but make sure it is when you're posting. In other words, let's not head off any further on a Schumacher vs Senna discussion (in this thread) please.
RedBaron
QUOTE (Jose Mourinho is Special @ Dec 15 2009, 14:53) *
Senna took Alain out because he was pissed off with Balestre. Had Balestre changed the grid order of pole position, neither Prost or Senna would have collided at the first corner.

Besides Senna never lied to the fans, he told everyone before the race 'if you don't change the grid order, Prost and i won't make the first corner', which implied he was going to take Prost out. That's not lying, whereas Schumacher who pathetically denied he was not guilty at Monaco.

With Schumacher's case, he ran wide at the corner, and was suppose to make room for Hill to pass, since he had the inside line. And what did Schumacher do? Same story with Villeneauve.

Had FISA never victimised Senna none of this would have happened, whereas Schumacher most of the times got off lightly by the FIA, and he still persisted in his dirty tricks down.gif


Simon Says
QUOTE (Group B @ Dec 15 2009, 16:03) *
Hmm, let's remind ourselves of the uber clean and noble Senna;

Japan 1989;

......on lap 47 Senna saw a chink of daylight up the inside at the chicane. He held off the brakes as late as possible and dived for the gap. It wasn't enough for a clean pass, but it was the sort of move Senna had made work many times before, simply by presenting the other driver with a stark choice. This time, as promised, Prost turned in. Clumsily. He knew he was going to take them both off; he knew that in doing so, he would become world champion . It was the sort of move that Senna wouldn't have hesitated in making ......


Japan 1990;


.......Still smarting from the previous year's events, Senna swore before the race: "If he gets to the first corner ahead of me, he ain't gonna make it round." And that's precisely what happened. Prost got a better start from the cleaner side of the track and led Senna into the first corner. But as the Frenchman lifted slightly to get round, Senna kept his foot hard down and simply smashed into the back of the Ferrari; taking both of them into instant retirement. Observers said the engine note of the Mclaren never wavered .....


Encyclopedia of F1.


It's probably the same person who complains nowadays about not enough passes in F1 roflmao.gif
as65p
QUOTE (RedBaron @ Dec 15 2009, 16:09) *


biggrin.gif made me smile... up.gif

Your own idea?
RedBaron
QUOTE (as65p @ Dec 15 2009, 15:12) *
biggrin.gif made me smile... up.gif

Your own idea?


Just quickly way OT, you can create whichever dummies book you want here: http://dummies.book.cover.txt2pic.com/
Szoelloe
QUOTE (Jose Mourinho is Special @ Dec 15 2009, 15:53) *
Senna took Alain out because he was pissed off with Balestre. Had Balestre changed the grid order of pole position, neither Prost or Senna would have collided at the first corner.

Besides Senna never lied to the fans, he told everyone before the race 'if you don't change the grid order, Prost and i won't make the first corner', which implied he was going to take Prost out. That's not lying, whereas Schumacher who pathetically denied he was not guilty at Monaco.

With Schumacher's case, he ran wide at the corner, and was suppose to make room for Hill to pass, since he had the inside line. And what did Schumacher do? Same story with Villeneauve.

Had FISA never victimised Senna none of this would have happened, whereas Schumacher most of the times got off lightly by the FIA, and he still persisted in his dirty tricks down.gif


i kinf of like Mourinho. He is an entertaining personality, and extremely good at what he does. you seem to disgrace his name. Senna was no better than MS in many aspects. Besides, he is long gone, RIP. MS on the other hand you may have to tolerate for another season.
as65p
QUOTE (Simon Says @ Dec 15 2009, 16:10) *
It's probably the same person who complains nowadays about not enough passes in F1 roflmao.gif


Well I would be willing to put 5 € on this being Nigel Roebuck texts. Anyone knows?

But wow, Encyclopedia of F1. Sounds like everything you want to know but were always afraid to ask. Or "How to become a F1 historian in 30 days".

BullHead
The bbc website has Timo saying that he's pretty sure Michael will be driving.
as65p
QUOTE (RedBaron @ Dec 15 2009, 16:14) *
Just quickly way OT, you can create whichever dummies book you want here: http://dummies.book.cover.txt2pic.com/


Okay, thanks. Might be useful in the future, but obviouly you now burned the idea here on the board cry.gif

wink.gif
Group B
QUOTE (as65p @ Dec 15 2009, 15:20) *
But wow, Encyclopedia of F1. Sounds like everything you want to know but were always afraid to ask. Or "How to become a F1 historian in 30 days".

up.gif
Yup, just what you've always needed. Best hurry up and ask Santa wink.gif
as65p
QUOTE (Group B @ Dec 15 2009, 16:27) *
up.gif
Yup, just what you've always needed. Best hurry up and ask Santa wink.gif


Too late, my wishlist is already in the mail. Anyway, that kind of book is usually good for something, namely "spot the errors" competitions... biggrin.gif
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