fosters35
Nov 17 2009, 15:56
German driver to German team and back with Ross Brawn.
Michael Schumacher will reportedly no longer be a direct advisor to Ferrari's Formula 1 team next year either.
Would certainly make for an interesting 2010.
Ok, I can only dream
zarooch
Nov 17 2009, 16:00
lol, I 'started' to sense this speculation, and lustigson said taht I just started that... and now here it is
Mastah
Nov 17 2009, 16:03
Maybe because he renewed his deal with Ferrari until 2012? That looks like serious reason, don't you think so?
fosters35
Nov 17 2009, 16:04
QUOTE (Mastah @ Nov 17 2009, 16:03)

Maybe because he renewed his deal with Ferrari until 2012? That looks like serious reason, don't you think so?
Since when were contracts at Ferrari relevent ;)
fosters35
Nov 17 2009, 16:18
Lets look at it logicly:
1: Schumacher is willing to race again and there is still speculation about will he/won't he
2: He has all winter to recover from injury
3: He'll be able to test properly
4: Merc have secretely always wanted him
5: What a major coup for the 'new' Merc team
6: His experience paired with Ross Brawn would be incredible for a 'new' team
7: His contract must be far easier to get out of than a drivers (ala Kimi)
8: Todt/Bernie would surely love it and would apply gentle pressure to make it work
9: If Button did go to Mclaren then on paper we'd have the best driver line per top team for years
10: Fantastic for F1 in general
QUOTE (fosters35 @ Nov 17 2009, 17:18)

Lets look at it logicly:
1: Schumacher is willing to race again and there is still speculation about will he/won't he
2: He has all winter to recover from injury
3: He'll be able to test properly
4: Merc have secretely always wanted him
5: What a major coup for the 'new' Merc team
6: His experience paired with Ross Brawn would be incredible for a 'new' team
7: His contract must be far easier to get out of than a drivers (ala Kimi)
8: Todt/Bernie would surely love it and would apply gentle pressure to make it work
9: If Button did go to Mclaren then on paper we'd have the best driver line per top team for years
10: Fantastic for F1 in general
Welcome to my ignore list
Szoelloe
Nov 17 2009, 16:36
QUOTE (jeze @ Nov 17 2009, 17:21)

Welcome to my ignore list

well, prepare yourself for the worst. there is a possibility. and that list you would like to ignore so much is all true, except for merc secretly wanting MS. They openly wanted him for more than ten years. Haug would piss in his pants in joy. and if Fisichella may race elswhere besides being official reserve, MS may do so also, he is not even conected to the F1 team anymore. so maybe you will have some nightmares....
LuisPena
Nov 17 2009, 16:41
I think he wont. I mean Fry said that they did not want to spent millions on a driver. Look Jenson, likely to move to Mclaren cause they don't want to pay him what he wants.
Shumi seat will cost at least for 2 years like 50,000,000. In my opinion it just wont happen.
but i will like to see him back
Atreiu
Nov 17 2009, 16:46
You're not the only one dreaming this fosters35.
;)
De Jokke
Nov 17 2009, 16:54
It could be possible because he's no longer giving ferrari advice.
Jordana
Nov 17 2009, 16:57
I have the feeling that Schumi will be moving from Maranello to Paris very soon.
Buttoneer
Nov 17 2009, 17:00
QUOTE (LuisPena @ Nov 17 2009, 16:41)

I think he wont. I mean Fry said that they did not want to spent millions on a driver. Look Jenson, likely to move to Mclaren cause they don't want to pay him what he wants.
He'll drive for peanuts if it's a winner.
Sardukar
Nov 17 2009, 17:07
The sponsorship he would generate for the team would easilly cover any wage demands he could make.
Boing 2
Nov 17 2009, 17:08
QUOTE (Buttoneer @ Nov 17 2009, 17:00)

He'll drive for peanuts if it's a winner.
he never did before, why start now?
Brawn are an unproven team, with Merc on board they have taken a good step towards stability but i'd need to see a couple of competitive back to back seasons before i accept them as a top team. There's more top flight talent these days than at any point in MS's career and i just don't see schumacher wanting to take on the likes of Vettel, Kubica, Hamilton, Alonso etc in an unproven team.
QUOTE (jeze @ Nov 18 2009, 01:21)

Welcome to my ignore list

Just from curiosity, what's your problem with his (foster35) list?
QUOTE (Jordana @ Nov 17 2009, 16:57)

I have the feeling that Schumi will be moving from Maranello to Paris very soon.

F1 Commissioner For Foul Play?
GiancarloF1
Nov 17 2009, 17:13
With a proper training and enough testing with the car IMHO he still could do very well. The biggest issue his neck, as it always had been a big factor in this sport, and I don't exactly know how fit it is now.
Boing 2
Nov 17 2009, 17:14
QUOTE (Orin @ Nov 17 2009, 17:10)

F1 Commissioner For Foul Play?
Yeah, Michael giving lectures on the importance of driving ethics would be comedy gold
Szoelloe
Nov 17 2009, 17:14
QUOTE (Orin @ Nov 17 2009, 18:10)

F1 Commissioner For Foul Play?
whatever
Phucaigh
Nov 17 2009, 17:16
QUOTE (Sardukar @ Nov 17 2009, 17:07)

The sponsorship he would generate for the team would easilly cover any wage demands he could make.
Yeah who is to say a sponsor won't pay the wages to have Schumacher race and promote their products.
Szoelloe
Nov 17 2009, 17:22
frans is getting nightmares again
Rambazamba
Nov 17 2009, 17:29
We might have a bit fun for the rest of the week.
Willi Weber was asked today if the rumours are true that the new advisor contract between MS and Ferrari will be erased and if that has something to do with the new Mercedes team.
His answer: "No comment"
In this the silliest of silly seasons i wouldn't be surprised if happened
Szoelloe
Nov 17 2009, 17:33
yeah, there are strong signs. together with Brawn again? that should be most appealing for him.
zarooch
Nov 17 2009, 17:36
QUOTE (Boing 2 @ Nov 17 2009, 22:14)

Yeah, Michael giving lectures on the importance of driving ethics would be comedy gold

especially he wud luv to show all the drivers, how to effectively perform the chop (webber's on Kimi and Koba's on Kazuki)
QUOTE (Rambazamba @ Nov 18 2009, 02:29)

We might have a bit fun for the rest of the week.
Willi Weber was asked today if the rumours are true that the new advisor contract between MS and Ferrari will be erased and if that has something to do with the new Mercedes team.
His answer: "No comment"
Yeah sure, he is now careful, because last time he was so "definite" in his statements, next day he had eggs all over his face, having Michael testing car to replace Massa while he was sick.
zarooch
Nov 17 2009, 18:35
Personally, I would like to wait and see. But 2011 Silly Season won't be anything like 2010.
MegaManson
Nov 17 2009, 18:42
QUOTE (Szoelloe @ Nov 17 2009, 16:36)

well, prepare yourself for the worst. there is a possibility. and that list you would like to ignore so much is all true, except for merc secretly wanting MS. They openly wanted him for more than ten years. Haug would piss in his pants in joy. and if Fisichella may race elswhere besides being official reserve, MS may do so also, he is not even conected to the F1 team anymore. so maybe you will have some nightmares....
So in probably the most paranoia fuelled environment in the world (F1) Schumacher would be allowed to be a consultant/advisor to Ferrari while at the same time be privy to the best kept secrets of the design of one of their 2 biggest rivals through driving for Merc ?
I hope you will be embarrassed about your post when you read it again
I would not be surprised if it happened. I'm being serious!
Actually i don't think it will happen
Brawn/Merc have apparently been working on the car for a while, they'll have to change all the aero to accomodate Michaels huge chin
Szoelloe
Nov 17 2009, 18:53
QUOTE (MegaManson @ Nov 17 2009, 19:42)

So in probably the most paranoia fuelled environment in the world (F1) Schumacher would be allowed to be a consultant/advisor to Ferrari while at the same time be privy to the best kept secrets of the design of one of their 2 biggest rivals through driving for Merc ?
I hope you will be embarrassed about your post when you read it again
Embarrassed?? get lost....
I am not saying it'll happen, but I wouldn't be surprised if it did. and he"s not advisor anymore, so maybe you are the one to catch up on your read.
fosters35
Nov 17 2009, 19:15
QUOTE (MiPe @ Nov 17 2009, 17:08)

Just from curiosity, what's your problem with his (foster35) list?
I guess some people are so up themselves they can't take some posts with a pinch of salt
MegaManson
Nov 17 2009, 19:22
QUOTE (Szoelloe @ Nov 17 2009, 18:53)

Embarrassed?? get lost....
I am not saying it'll happen, but I wouldn't be surprised if it did. and he"s not advisor anymore, so maybe you are the one to catch up on your read.
He is still as deep in terms of connection with Ferrari as you can get !
There is no way Mercedes would consider hiring him unless he severed all of his Ferrari ties as what would stop F1's greatest ever technical driver giving Merc Ferrari info or vice versa ?
Get real please

Look at this thread with dreamers!
"I see dreamers writting on this forum!"
who seriously believes Schumu will ever race F1 again? Come on...... he's totally done.
Szoelloe
Nov 17 2009, 19:30
hello frans!
it took longer to lure you out than usual. megamansy took the bait sooner
hobbes
Nov 17 2009, 19:36
Poor Frans

Anyway even though i am a Ferrari fan and consider MS to be the best driver and capable of making a comeback, it would surely make the season more interesting if he joined Mercedes GP and i would support such a move. However i would say it is highly unlikely since he is connected to Ferrari and i am sure Ferrari wouldn't want him to join another team.
The Ragged Edge
Nov 17 2009, 19:37
Not gonna happen.
Man talk about the best thing that could happen to the sport. That would be something to watch. Not going to happen though.
Szoelloe
Nov 17 2009, 19:49
QUOTE (DEVO @ Nov 17 2009, 20:42)

Man talk about the best thing that could happen to the sport. That would be something to watch. Not going to happen though.
nah, unfortunately not, very little chance. I would say the mistery driver at Brawn is Raikkonen. Brawn likes him, Haug likes him, it points that way.
Lennat
Nov 17 2009, 19:51
I sure as hell would love to see him make comeback. Of course I would prefer if it were in a in a Ferrari as they are my favorite team, but I support drivers more so than teams anyway. Not very likely to happen though.
Only if Kimi comes too.
I thought Schumi signed a deal with Ferrari which sees him withdraw from his advisory role in Ferrari F1, and focus on Ferrari road cars.
http://en.f1-live.com/f1/en/headlines/news...117002218.shtmlHence, we won't see him at Brawn/Mercedes apart from a friendly 'hello'/visit.
gaston_foix
Nov 18 2009, 07:24
Why not. it will be fun. I love to see it happens...
Buttoneer
Nov 18 2009, 10:18
QUOTE (Boing 2 @ Nov 17 2009, 17:08)

he never did before, why start now?
Because he can and because he has the bug having just missed out this year.
Brawn is not an unproven team it is the current World Champion. It also has Ross Brawn.
Galko877
Nov 18 2009, 11:57
As expected, Schumacher's spokeswoman denied reports that he would return as a Mercedes GP driver.
WebBerK
Nov 18 2009, 13:37
Brawn doesn't need Schumy Choo to win WDC.
My bet is MercGP will hire Sutil to marketing they are a diversity friendly company.
RedBaron
Nov 18 2009, 13:49
QUOTE (GIBF1 @ Nov 17 2009, 18:46)

Actually i don't think it will happen
Brawn/Merc have apparently been working on the car for a while, they'll have to change all the aero to accomodate Michaels huge chin
That chin happens to be the single greatest component on any car it's placed in.
Boing 2
Nov 18 2009, 13:49
QUOTE (Buttoneer @ Nov 18 2009, 10:18)

Because he can and because he has the bug having just missed out this year.
Brawn is not an unproven team it is the current World Champion. It also has Ross Brawn.
He always could though, he was worth over $100M before the end of the 90's so he could have easily driven for peanuts at any point but he didn't.
Right up to the end he pushed for every penny he could get, that's fair enough but i don't see why, after 16 years of behaving a certain way, he's going to suddenly change.
There is also a big question mark over brawn, this years car was designed with Honda investment, had a long gestation after they abandoned 08 early and benefited from a last minute engine improvement and DD advantage. None of that applies to next years car, so there is no guarantee of a continuation of form.
More worrying is that they started the year with the best car but ended struggling to get on the podium whilst McLaren took a dog of a car from the back end of the grid to the top step. I don't think they are as safe a bet as McLaren or Ferrari.
MikeTekRacing
Nov 18 2009, 14:01
maybe he wants to race again?
George Costanza
Nov 18 2009, 14:14
Because Brawn and Schumacher would dominate F1 like the good old days of Ferrari.
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