Kimi to take revenge ? Get a grip.

Was he even in talks with Brawn? Thought he said Marc were the only option...

Well I guess this is F1 and anything can happen but I'd be quite shocked if it was true. I think the attraction of Mclaren is that he knew everyone in the team, I don't think he wants to go to a totally new team.

Haug could be the person who brings him over now that Button has left them high and dry but I still think Kimi will stick by his "Mclaren or no team" quote.

Let's see what happens...

Not long ago I read an interview snippet where Fry said something like "Button is 9x% staying at Brawn". Can't provide a source right now, but iirc it was on motorsport-total.com.

/edit: Found it. Though it's 80%, not 9x%. http://www.motorsport-total.com/f1/splitte...t_09103004.html

Get a grip. Raikkonen had the PERFECT OPPORTUNITY to do so with McLaren (against Ferrari), but didn't out of greed and other factors... and you pretend he'll do it with Brawn against McLaren?

Whaaat?

even earlier today brawn was quoted in autosport saying 'id be surprised if button actually signed with mclaren''

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/80188

which is very surprising considering the news of button signing was near confirmed yesterday

Brawn didn't want Kimi

Daimler apparently isn't happy that Mercedes left Mclaren and formed their own team. If they are going to sign Kimi for XX million, Daimler is going to be more at Mercedes their neck

Source?

Come on, we need something from Autosport, Motosport, BBC, TS, The Guardian...

http://www.pitpass.com/fes_php/pitpass_new...es_art_id=39576

i read j.allens site regulary,i do think brawn are a bit shocked.new team no no.1,no wdc in the team.i do hope its true,i was gutted to read kimi was leaving f1,a true no -nonsense racer

"Anything can happen in Formula One, and it usually does."

Haug doesn't rate Button in the current top three (FA, LH, KR). He wants Vettel in a year or two. I think Haug told Fry and Brawn to get Button on a one year deal (with a Merc only option for a second year) and didn't expect the McLaren bid for Button. Because as far as Haug's concerned he thought McLaren (RDennis) didn't rate Button either. Haug and Brawn were surprised by the JB signing. Never expected it.

That's why Fry is bad mouthing Button. Doesn't want Merc/Brawn to be seen as blowing off a British WDC. McLaren is not pleased having their nemesis, Ross Brawn, with Merc money for the forseeable future (Ferrari multiple automatic repeat championship anyone?!). Mac takes Button off the market and out of Brawn's hands. Now Ross has to deal with ? Kimi? If they sign Kimi (only logical imo) Ross has to figure out which Kimster appears on race day - and adjust his setups and strategy accordingly.

Button goes to McLaren now because there won't be another top 2 seat available in 2010 or 2011 (Ferrari, McLaren) and he'd be left out in the cold before he wanted to retire. So he grabs McLaren seat for the three years.

I do wonder, if Mercedes didn't buy out Brawn GP, would Mclaren still have signed Button? I think it's also the competitive aspect of Mclaren vs Mercedes to take away Button from Mercedes as a big f*ck you to Mercedes? I think if Mercedes didn't form their own team, Kimi would have probably been signed even if he had more demands than Jenson.

Kimi can easily take the seat at Mercedes if he wants too. Simply do not ask alot of money. He gets paid by Ferrari anyway not to drive for Ferrari next year.

Just about sums it up, I think.
It was a slap to Button's face with a one year deal offer. Why is Fry so shocked?!!

this has to be true

last clutch at the straw

the 1 thing i dont get is the line"he has already been paid for next yr"?
IMO the ferrari payout is irrelavent.if a person has there contract bought out,gets paid severence for the contract,applys for another job the new employer reduces your salary bcz of your last job??..this only happens in the uk if you have to go on goverment benifits,and they take into count that have had your redundecy/payout

Well Merc chiefs said Brawn will run team as before - just under another name. And it's mostly upon Brawn to make a decision. Also Merc could add their thoughts.

In 2008 it was believed Brawn offered Alonso 40M Honda's bucks, he worked with best driver and team for decade - he knew the price of success. I have no doubts they will at least try to talk with Kimi. Who really couldn't want drive for them. But perhaps couples of sad days would soften his attitude. And he will get all his freedom he wants. It's really stupid not to try at least to talk.

Now THAT's a great question!

I bet McLaren would never have signed him. I think Mac places him in the middle (4-8) of the current pack of drivers. But this is a great way for Mac to get a bunch of cash for road car development and then steal the No. 1 from under Mercedes noses. The current World Champion will be announced as driving for McLaren Mercedes every where he goes next year. Hell, most of the regular public will think he won the WDC with McLaren after two or three months of that. That's worth a lot.

Ferrari's payout to Kimi is based upon the amount he is paid by another team - IF he races in F1. Ferrari and KR both signed the termination deal. Gov't interests are not involved.

I think he gets $17 million if he DOESN'T race or $17 million LESS whatever another team's willing to pay. Anyway KR doesn't get the full payout no matter unless he doesn't drive in 2010.

Why would anyone be surprised if Kimi signed with Mercedes (Brawn) for a year.

His salary is being paid by Ferrari for 2010.

This is a no-brainer.

Actually Fry said about two years. And I have a feeling Vettel wants to be in Ferrari. And very possible with MS in a team principal chair.

What's your source on this?

He gets about $8-9 million if he gets a drive

Jeez. He already has ~200M bucks. The rest is peanuts.

kimi to mercedes?

Maybe he wants more so he can buy hockey team in Finland.

i was just giving an example .i didnt mean they were involved

Who knows for sure untill all of the seats are gone. I keep thinking Bernie is out there trying to keep Kimi around. But on the other hand Kimi took $125 mil form Ferrari in the last 3 years not bad. What makes me think there could be something to this is MB needs a proven winner and Rosberg and Heitfield are not winners. They need a star and those are no stars. Rosberg has been over ratted since he has shown up. His skill is how well he marketed himself. Frank Williams has not picked a good driver since JPM.

Kimi said he would stay at home rather driving for 10th place. Will Merc fights for win? Very likely. Just go to sleep and I hope in the morning I won't read in twitter "I'm not interested in Brawn".

Not true that McLaren are behind on aero development. They made up massive ground over the course of 2009, and they have stated that they identified the aero flaw in the car.

KERS was a blessing to the Macca, but it compromised the car in other ways, particularly in terms of weight distribution. KERS will give them an advantage in designing for 2010's weight distribution, as they have experience with a rear-heavy car under the current aerodynamic regulations.

so, now Merc has to build a rally car also?

Mercedes is the new McLaren. Macca already has two drivers so now newspapers think everyone else is going to mercedes gp. love it

how much £ would bernie loose,if a driver like kimi,who has a huge fanbase/merchandice left f1.....

If Bernie is out there to keep Kimi around I think thats one more reason for Kimi to retire in his eyes.

Or it is simply just another bargaining tactic by the Roberton's...



This is getting interesting now.

funny that normally a single link from a portugese website woulnt be taken seriously at all..in light of his announced sabbatical,this is the centre of attention right now.the last ray of hope

Indeed. Kubica or Kimi on the other hand...

One year deal with Mercedes and then a switch to Red Bull in 2011? Not a bad choice me thinks, now that it is certain that Button is going ot Mclaren.



*not buying it yet, but heres hoping*

Still dont buy it. It will be no Kimi in 2010 with a small chance of a return in 2011 with Red Bull. But Im about 90% sure he wont sign for Mercedes. Unfortunately offcourse.

i was 90% sure kimi would go to mac,and jenson to brawn......but know im confused..i do think merc need a proven race winner to take on ferrari/mac/rbr,imo rosberg may not be the 1,i do feel merc are shocked at the button move,which leaves them kinda weak in the driver department no no. 1 no wdc winner.there is 1 left.........

how dare u interrupt our straw clutching

dont worry ive clutched enough straws recently to last a lifetime. I cant get my hopes up because I dont think my heart can take it anymore

Indeed. Kimi would be perfect for Brawn really. Even for a year.

Better to be pessimistic now than to be disappointed later, I think.

Yeah considering once the car came closer to rubens liking, poor Button had his hands full with rubens.......and now he will be up against lewie in his home......