good to know robertson has officially contacted haug.

merc would want raikkonen.there no way brawn would be happy facing RB,mclaren and ferrari with a rosberg/heidfeld combo.if the robertsons have contacted them,means kimi is interested.i have a feeling this will again come down to how much merc are willing to spend.

robertson and kimi's recent comments are clearly trying to convey the message that this isnt so desperate for him.in other words,give us an attractive deal or we've off....haug seems to be playing the same game too.its an egotrip

hope this works out.

Both, Heidfeld and Rosberg, proved to be reliable in terms of collecting points and being there to grab a podium when there's an opportunity. (ye I know, Rosberg in Singapore...). Unlike the guys currently confirmed at McLaren, Ferrari and Red Bull, neither of Mercedes' rumoured drivers has ever won a Grand Prix... but neither of them ever had the car to do so either.
After all, Rosberg/Heidfeld dosn't look - or rather sound... - that strong, but, given the right car, imo both of them are capable of winning races.

Though I'd rate Hamilton, Alonso and Vettel higher than Rosberg and Heidfeld.

My understanding is that they applied developments to this years car which they thought might work well from what they were doing with next years car. Call it more a happy coincidence that they worked in 2009.

is this aimed at me?.im 37.a dj/producer with above average iq.i am nt a troll,plz explain the comment!...Nick

Kimi is so funny. He puts big dramatic show how he cannot get a drive and tells he's taking a year off. Then he goes begging a drive from Mercedes. I say lol

i dont think it was aimed at you

At Grande Prêmio, they deny the whole thing:
"Raikonnen denies Mercedes deal and goes sabatical in 2010."

I was refering to his posts and insight to F1, not picking up rumours and checking them out.
I haven't been to Cavalcanti's blog yet.

They use the Formula1.com interview as source, which was most likely made on the same day that Kimi announced he's going to take sabbatical,
before Button's Mclaren contract was announced.

But that's in reference to the one day older formula1.com interview.


Edit:

That's exactly what I've said. That he hadn't made any relevance about the matter.
In fact, his comment about Kimi-Mercedes derives from the Autosport's article.


Me either, I'm not that curious about it.
This "insider info" was revealed in TV anyway.

Sorry but if they end up with Rosberg and Heidfeld then it's a unmitigated disaster for Mercedes. Heidfeld is a solid no.2 journeyman collector, but he lacks the killer instinct, and Rosberg has shown some promise but he is not that quick, again not the killer instinct that you associate with the top drivers. They are both good no.2, but neither are team leaders, neither have won a grand prix. Brawn's handling of the Button/Barrichello situation has just be a complete lesson in how to destroy a winning F1 team. Mercedes must feel real silly buying into what they thought was a WDC/WCC team, but which in effect looks more like a midfield team, but they have only themselves to blame with all the meddling they have done.

Well you don't understand. If you think minor things like Brawn GP add sidepod panel to BGP001 or Brawn GP experimenting with shark fin has something to do with serious updates such as new aerodynamic package, new suspensions or gearbox, floor - you are wrong. Even Ferrari did some aero tuning for Monza although they had already stop working on current car.

That is old news. This is the latest report. Haug confirming contact from Kimi's managers.

Raikkonen will Negotiate with Mercedes GP
19.11.2009

Norbert Haug has confirmed that Kimi's managers have called to Mercedes GP's Nick Fry to open negotiations.

"This is normal behaviour as long as there's a seat to be filled. Other drivers and their representatives have done the same. No decisions has been made yet" says Haug.

http://www.hs.fi/urheilu/formula1/artikkel...a/1135250885855

In a way it's funny cos Mercedes/Haug/Brawn fraked up, and Kimi fraked up, so these frak ups sort of deserve each other.

I can distinguish track specific upgrades.

Just wanted to show that Brawn did actually receive some upgrades since the half-season.

KIMI says no to Mercedes - lol

Hi there, newbie in this forum reports in.

I believe there are negotiations, however how they come out is totally different matter.

They are quoting what was on the official F1 website this morning. Dont know when that interview was done. Other developments have taken place since that interview.

That's an old story. Haug has personally confirmed to Helsingin Sanomat this evening that Kimi's management have called Nick Fry to open negotiations with Merceds GP.

Please do not keep mixing the latest developments with stories that are hours old and already incorrect information.

Is Helsingin Sanomat a reliable newspaper?
Great, if true.

Both Helsingin Sanomat and Turun Sanomat are considered 'serious' news papers.

Yes, very much so. It's the largest and the most respected newspaper in Finland.

Well I can't help to think this time it should happen - both doesn't have ace in pockets (Button or realistic option in rally). It must simplify negotiations!

Haha, F1 is a pretty hectic world

Well, it has been that today at least.

Certainly the Robertsons have lost a lot of face after this week.

So has Mercedes/Brawn. Maybe they deserve each other.

Maybe in mine and your world, but in the rarefied air these people live, you cant take nothing for granted. If Kimi wouldn't take the Mclaren offer, what makes you think the Mercedes offer will be to Kimi's liking?

Not sure about young Rosberg but absolutely agree about Heidfeld. Bsides he's over the top for quite some time.

Largest in Scandinavia (if you count Finland to Scandinavia).

He will be there No 1, the one that flies their flag. The one that bring them their first WCC perhaps. The one who gets most money among the F1 drivers.

And last but not least the one that fends off MacLaren.

Brazilian source?

Equally bad as Spanish and Italian sources? Maybe even worse?
Where are the insiders, our Lobato and Allievi experts?

At Mercedes there will be Norbert, who is a jolly good fella, at McLaren there will be Mr. Ron D., who is a control freak. Yes, Ron is coming back now that Max is gone..

I must tell You, I have this funny feeling; maybe all this has been some kind of weird F1 theater act..? If this just happens to be going like planned?????

Ahh, that is way to paranoia. Not that they aren't out to get you anyway...

They`ll never get me, I´m allways carrying my tomato with me..

Green tomato I hope.

Well, it's more pathetic than funny.

UPDATE: Original signing report at Globo unpublished.

It's not looking good. Now Globo has replaced the original report claiming Kimi's signing with Mercedes with the "Raikonnen denies Mercedes deal and goes sabatical in 2010" report we're seeing in other places.

When the fat lady sings, we will know.

In the mean time, try to read some moore lines from Felipe.

I´m not that stupid. I know there´s not such things as green tomatoes. There´s only purple, grey and white tomatoes. My choice is silver.

This is gettin´ out of topic. Hope I´ll see Kimi in Merc GP next year. Fingers crossed..

Those are the old reports, now we already have Norbert telling Robertson has contacted Fry.

Wrong.
Both articles are there.

This "Raikonnen denies Mercedes deal and goes sabatical in 2010" is that old interview before Jenson had joined McLaren.
Globo is reporting it as if it was newer than the Cavancanti's report.

The only pathetic souls are the ones who brand Kimi as pathetic based on some wild claims about Kimi begging for a drive.

You are right. They haven't erased the original article and now are using old news as it was new. I guess Lito should come forward now and refresh matters since he's implied as being close to the talk..

No. Wrong quote for some reason.

Sorry for the inconvenience.

Theres already signs that MacLaren fears that Kimi will drive for Mercedesw next year.

Martin and Ron regretts this, and they will for some time.

Lewis should also regret it, he neede that push form Kimi as his father said.

But most they fear that now Mercedes perhaps grab both the WDC and the WCC in their first year.

UPDATE: More quotes from the original report from Lito. He was apparently phoning the report.

“It (Kimi's signing to Mercedes) is coming from Brawn losing Button, a McLaren vengeance that left Mercedes with Nico Rosberg and Nick Heidfeld, almost nothing”.

“Rosberg and Heidfeld have not one win, too little for a team which had a world champion with them. And the way it (Mercedes) was leaving McLaren, they (McLaren) couldn't resist giving this back, taking Button out of there. Robertson, his manager, is finishing up the details, but they are already in agreement.“

Correct. Since yesterday we have heard Globo reporting Kimi´s contract, Robertson sayin´ Kimi will consider Merc and Haug telling us Kimi is a possibility. There has been hours and hours since the last real news. A total silence. I bet that if something wasn´t going on, some of the parties would have denied all.

Again this big fuss for nothing ...I bet we have to wait for another few weeks until Kimi or his managers come out and tell us that Kimi won´t drive for mercedes next year

I just pray that he will drive at least at the WRC next year! No Kimi in any serious would be to hard to take