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All sessions Alonso was ahead of Massa I think. And by quite a lot. Anyone knows if Massa went for soft and Alonso for hard? Or maybe Alonso went for racesetup and Massa for qualifying? It was a bit strange that suddenly Massa found the pace.
QUOTE (wdh @ Mar 13 2010, 20:56) 
I have to say that Fred did seem somewhat peeved to be third.
His scowling and drawn expression, and lack of social interaction with the other drivers while weighing in, really made him seem shocked and even angry.
He certainly didn't look pleased or relaxed about qualifying third, and behind his team-mate.
The Hamilton thing all over again - this wasn't supposed to happen!
In contrast, Felipe-baby seemed genuinely happy with second (and ahead of his team-mate).
Fred looked far and away the least happy of the top ten at the weigh-in.
Much less happy even than MS - who was prepared to play to the cameras after being spotted taking a close look at the left hand side of the inside of the McLaren cockpit!
I'm afraid that Fred looks to me as though he is going to consolidate his reputation as Mr Grumpy.
Its going to be VERY interesting to see if Stefano can keep everyone playing for the team ...
His scowling and drawn expression, and lack of social interaction with the other drivers while weighing in, really made him seem shocked and even angry.
He certainly didn't look pleased or relaxed about qualifying third, and behind his team-mate.
The Hamilton thing all over again - this wasn't supposed to happen!
In contrast, Felipe-baby seemed genuinely happy with second (and ahead of his team-mate).
Fred looked far and away the least happy of the top ten at the weigh-in.
Much less happy even than MS - who was prepared to play to the cameras after being spotted taking a close look at the left hand side of the inside of the McLaren cockpit!
I'm afraid that Fred looks to me as though he is going to consolidate his reputation as Mr Grumpy.
Its going to be VERY interesting to see if Stefano can keep everyone playing for the team ...
I hope Alonso doesnt repeat that.
Massa is turning out to be the great disciple of MS, consistent and fast. Only lacking little bit in race craft.
QUOTE (4L3X @ Mar 13 2010, 15:01)
Great job for Massa!! Alonso did great too, but I heard on Speedtv that Massa is still struggling with form (physical) so I fear for his race pace - OTOH, he can only improve from now on! To beat Alonso by .4, that's a lot! Very happy for him - that's how you show you've recovered.
So yes, I bet on him to beat Alonso this year (not based on this qualy, but for what I rate Massa as a driver) . Although I'm a big fan of Alonso as a racer, I'll be supporting Massa until the guy gets a WDC. Then he won't be the underdog anymore, so then will see.
Cheers,
4l3x.
So yes, I bet on him to beat Alonso this year (not based on this qualy, but for what I rate Massa as a driver) . Although I'm a big fan of Alonso as a racer, I'll be supporting Massa until the guy gets a WDC. Then he won't be the underdog anymore, so then will see.
Cheers,
4l3x.
I heard that too..surprising that we have not heard from any other source that Massa is struggling with fitness.
QUOTE (wdh @ Mar 13 2010, 15:26)
I have to say that Fred did seem somewhat peeved to be third.
His scowling and drawn expression, and lack of social interaction with the other drivers while weighing in, really made him seem shocked and even angry.
He certainly didn't look pleased or relaxed about qualifying third, and behind his team-mate.
The Hamilton thing all over again - this wasn't supposed to happen!
In contrast, Felipe-baby seemed genuinely happy with second (and ahead of his team-mate).
Fred looked far and away the least happy of the top ten at the weigh-in.
Much less happy even than MS - who was prepared to play to the cameras after being spotted taking a close look at the left hand side of the inside of the McLaren cockpit!
I'm afraid that Fred looks to me as though he is going to consolidate his reputation as Mr Grumpy.
Its going to be VERY interesting to see if Stefano can keep everyone playing for the team ...
His scowling and drawn expression, and lack of social interaction with the other drivers while weighing in, really made him seem shocked and even angry.
He certainly didn't look pleased or relaxed about qualifying third, and behind his team-mate.
The Hamilton thing all over again - this wasn't supposed to happen!
In contrast, Felipe-baby seemed genuinely happy with second (and ahead of his team-mate).
Fred looked far and away the least happy of the top ten at the weigh-in.
Much less happy even than MS - who was prepared to play to the cameras after being spotted taking a close look at the left hand side of the inside of the McLaren cockpit!
I'm afraid that Fred looks to me as though he is going to consolidate his reputation as Mr Grumpy.
Its going to be VERY interesting to see if Stefano can keep everyone playing for the team ...
Now you have said it, I would not be surprised if the devious side of Alonso come out in qualifying and he tried something swifty on Hamilton on their last runs, and lost out badly. I would be very interested in seeing the footage off that last run.
Something has to explain Massa napping 2nd, when Alonso had been clearly faster even in practice.
Alonso is Alonso, and I think he is going to put up one of the biggest battles tomorrow, he won't waste an ounce of that cars ablities
It is all about how the car handles on the long heavy runs and their tyre wear.
But you are right on his body language, he did not look rattled, still looked confident, but a lot was going on through his head that made him miss out on interacting with the other two.
QUOTE (wdh @ Mar 13 2010, 16:26)
I have to say that Fred did seem somewhat peeved to be third.
His scowling and drawn expression, and lack of social interaction with the other drivers while weighing in, really made him seem shocked and even angry.
He certainly didn't look pleased or relaxed about qualifying third, and behind his team-mate.
The Hamilton thing all over again - this wasn't supposed to happen!
In contrast, Felipe-baby seemed genuinely happy with second (and ahead of his team-mate).
Fred looked far and away the least happy of the top ten at the weigh-in.
Much less happy even than MS - who was prepared to play to the cameras after being spotted taking a close look at the left hand side of the inside of the McLaren cockpit!
I'm afraid that Fred looks to me as though he is going to consolidate his reputation as Mr Grumpy.
Its going to be VERY interesting to see if Stefano can keep everyone playing for the team ...
His scowling and drawn expression, and lack of social interaction with the other drivers while weighing in, really made him seem shocked and even angry.
He certainly didn't look pleased or relaxed about qualifying third, and behind his team-mate.
The Hamilton thing all over again - this wasn't supposed to happen!
In contrast, Felipe-baby seemed genuinely happy with second (and ahead of his team-mate).
Fred looked far and away the least happy of the top ten at the weigh-in.
Much less happy even than MS - who was prepared to play to the cameras after being spotted taking a close look at the left hand side of the inside of the McLaren cockpit!
I'm afraid that Fred looks to me as though he is going to consolidate his reputation as Mr Grumpy.
Its going to be VERY interesting to see if Stefano can keep everyone playing for the team ...
Are you really suggesting that any driver should be happy when they qualify 3rd when their goal was pole?. All drivers are unhappy when they lose to their team mates, so i don't see the point of your post other than trolling. Of course he is not happy and shouldn't be happy. Only losers are happy when they lose. Michael is not a comparison he is at a different stage of his career, and any happiness was pretend anyway. Its funny how you think Alonso should have been happy about qualifying 3rd behind his team mate. its really sad that there are so many desperate people like you who just cant wait to bash Alonso at the first opportunity. Look at your long post trying to act like an arm chair psychologist.
QUOTE (FenderJaguar @ Mar 13 2010, 17:31)
All sessions Alonso was ahead of Massa I think. And by quite a lot. Anyone knows if Massa went for soft and Alonso for hard? Or maybe Alonso went for racesetup and Massa for qualifying? It was a bit strange that suddenly Massa found the pace.
Massa found the pace when it really mattered (Q3). Certainly not the first time it's happened. Qualifying after all is his forte for sure.
Keep it civil, and enough of calling posters 'trolls' because you disagree with their post. Thanks.
QUOTE (fabr68 @ Mar 13 2010, 15:46)
Alonso was the fastest Ferrari in all qualy sessions.
Not exactly.
Q1
First try
Felipe
1:55.707
1:55.313
Fernando
1:55.972
1:55.482
1:55.521
Second try
Fernando
1:54.612
Q2
First try
Felipe
1:54.331
Fernando
1:54.265
Second try
Felipe
1:54.387
Fernando
1:54.172
Q3
First try
Felipe
1:55.131
Fernando
1:55.072
Second try
Felipe
1:54.242
Fernando
1:54.608
One tenth here and there, so closely matched
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QUOTE (FenderJaguar @ Mar 13 2010, 15:31)
All sessions Alonso was ahead of Massa I think. And by quite a lot. Anyone knows if Massa went for soft and Alonso for hard? Or maybe Alonso went for racesetup and Massa for qualifying? It was a bit strange that suddenly Massa found the pace.
Actually, If you watched Felipe in 08 and 09 you would see he never stepped on it until he got to Q3. The guy is one of the best single lap qualifiers, that's what made the 08 season great he and Lewis both went all out on Q3. I think Massa never really showed his hand until Q3. Race pace is going to be interesting, I expect Alonso to be better but Massa is better at managing his tyres.
Alonso can't handle getting beaten by his team mate...nothing wrong with that. Kimi did not care one way or the other.. there was a lot wrong with that. That is why even though I don't like Alonso,I would prefer having him in my team than Kimi.
QUOTE (Mastah @ Mar 13 2010, 16:45)
Not exactly.
Q1
First try
Felipe
1:55.707
1:55.313
Fernando
1:55.972
1:55.482
1:55.521
Second try
Fernando
1:54.612
Q2
First try
Felipe
1:54.331
Fernando
1:54.265
Second try
Felipe
1:54.387
Fernando
1:54.172
Q3
First try
Felipe
1:55.131
Fernando
1:55.072
Second try
Felipe
1:54.242
Fernando
1:54.608
One tenth here and there, so closely matched.
Q1
First try
Felipe
1:55.707
1:55.313
Fernando
1:55.972
1:55.482
1:55.521
Second try
Fernando
1:54.612
Q2
First try
Felipe
1:54.331
Fernando
1:54.265
Second try
Felipe
1:54.387
Fernando
1:54.172
Q3
First try
Felipe
1:55.131
Fernando
1:55.072
Second try
Felipe
1:54.242
Fernando
1:54.608
One tenth here and there, so closely matched
.Always liked your post, IMO very objective and not prone to bash nor glorify
still u made a mistake on Q2 first try corrected it cheers
QUOTE (h_nair47 @ Mar 13 2010, 16:49)
Alonso can't handle getting beaten by his team mate...nothing wrong with that. Kimi did not care one way or the other.. there was a lot wrong with that. That is why even though I don't like Alonso,I would prefer having him in my team than Kimi.
Especially when the bargain comes with this bank..
What it comes to FA & FM..well I´m waiting for an interesting season. Anything could happen. Felipe seemed very competitive today.
I'm no Alonso fan, but... Back in 1996, a certain M.Schumacher was outqualified by Irvine in his first race for Ferrari.
I think these forums didn't exist yet back then, but I'm sure that if they were, they would have been full of topics like "Irvine proves Schumacher myth", "Schumacher was cheating at Benetton" and so on. And you know what happened the remainder of that season, Schumacher never left the first 2 rows and Irvine never beat him again.
Of course I'm sure the Alonso-Massa fight will be far closer than that...
I think these forums didn't exist yet back then, but I'm sure that if they were, they would have been full of topics like "Irvine proves Schumacher myth", "Schumacher was cheating at Benetton" and so on. And you know what happened the remainder of that season, Schumacher never left the first 2 rows and Irvine never beat him again.
Of course I'm sure the Alonso-Massa fight will be far closer than that...
QUOTE (h_nair47 @ Mar 13 2010, 17:49)
Alonso can't handle getting beaten by his team mate...nothing wrong with that. Kimi did not care one way or the other.. there was a lot wrong with that. That is why even though I don't like Alonso,I would prefer having him in my team than Kimi.
That makes sense. You would rather have someone in your team that can't handle being beaten by his teammate than someone who can? Every driver on the grid hates being beaten by his teammate but it's something you really do need to handle if you're driving a F1 car.
Alonso did a decent job as Massa always shines in Bahrain. Alonso seems better integrated and in tune with the Ferrari team and car than Kimi ever did. To me Kimi never seemed to get to grips at Ferrari, his best years were in the McLaren and damn him for not being there this year.
That being said, Alonso looked seriously pissed today and he isn't strong enough in the head to lose to his team mate more than once or twice, as was shown in 2007. So if Massa turns out to be genuinely faster (I'm not saying he will), I expect Alonso to be out of the team after this year.
That being said, Alonso looked seriously pissed today and he isn't strong enough in the head to lose to his team mate more than once or twice, as was shown in 2007. So if Massa turns out to be genuinely faster (I'm not saying he will), I expect Alonso to be out of the team after this year.
QUOTE (FenderJaguar @ Mar 13 2010, 07:31)
All sessions Alonso was ahead of Massa I think. And by quite a lot. Anyone knows if Massa went for soft and Alonso for hard? Or maybe Alonso went for racesetup and Massa for qualifying? It was a bit strange that suddenly Massa found the pace.
It seemed to me that in most sessions Felipe was ahead of Alonso - untill Alonso suddenly at the near of the end of session lapped time which was several tenths faster than Felipe´s best one.
In the interview alonso says that prefers begin the race in the third position that the second position in the grid.
QUOTE (OSX @ Mar 13 2010, 15:58)
That makes sense. You would rather have someone in your team that can't handle being beaten by his teammate than someone who can? Every driver on the grid hates being beaten by his teammate but it's something you really do need to handle if you're driving a F1 car.
I think what h_nair meant is that you want a driver who is competitive. At least even if he does not win he would push himself to get the maximum which would be an overall benefit for the team
QUOTE (showtime @ Mar 13 2010, 13:13)
How can anybody would have said that when he was previously 0.5 secs faster. Too much hate 
Yes afterall Alonso set a faster time in Q2 that what Massa managed in Q3
QUOTE (Birelman @ Mar 13 2010, 13:21)
Oh, Alonso's mistake is no excuse at all ROTFLMFAO!!!!
The fact is, Massa did NOT make a mistake, meaning, he drove better? Very much like it used to happen with Raikkonen.
No surprises for me, Massa is a seriously fast driver, I've always said that I wouldn't be in the least bit embarassed by being outqualified by him, but, this was the stickng point in "proving" (at least for some of you guys) that Raikkonen stank and that he needed to be replaced by Alonso if Ferrari was to have a chance. Well, it don't look much different, does it? Even if Fernando comes tomorrow, and beats Massa, and goes on to win the Championship even if Massa out Qs him 60% of the time, you will still say, racing is where it counts, and then, well, wouldn't that still not be better than Raikkonen did?
So yea, same excuses, sorry to point out.
The fact is, Massa did NOT make a mistake, meaning, he drove better? Very much like it used to happen with Raikkonen.
No surprises for me, Massa is a seriously fast driver, I've always said that I wouldn't be in the least bit embarassed by being outqualified by him, but, this was the stickng point in "proving" (at least for some of you guys) that Raikkonen stank and that he needed to be replaced by Alonso if Ferrari was to have a chance. Well, it don't look much different, does it? Even if Fernando comes tomorrow, and beats Massa, and goes on to win the Championship even if Massa out Qs him 60% of the time, you will still say, racing is where it counts, and then, well, wouldn't that still not be better than Raikkonen did?
So yea, same excuses, sorry to point out.
Alonso's strength as always been his race pace though and qualifying 3rd is not too bad, Kimi's problem in 2008 was that his qualifying was so bad it ruined his races, his race pace was always good.
Good performance from Massa - bit pathectic though his dad jumping for joy, presumably because his son beat Alonso in quali 
QUOTE (Raincoat @ Mar 13 2010, 17:01)
I think what h_nair meant is that you want a driver who is competitive. At least even if he does not win he would push himself to get the maximum which would be an overall benefit for the team
Yup
QUOTE (Yorkie @ Mar 13 2010, 18:15)
Alonso's strength as always been his race pace though and qualifying 3rd is not too bad, Kimi's problem in 2008 was that his qualifying was so bad it ruined his races, his race pace was always good.
true words
except I wouldn't call it "so bad..." 
So who does Alonso write the emails to? 
QUOTE (race @ Mar 13 2010, 15:58)
Alonso did a decent job as Massa always shines in Bahrain. Alonso seems better integrated and in tune with the Ferrari team and car than Kimi ever did. To me Kimi never seemed to get to grips at Ferrari, his best years were in the McLaren and damn him for not being there this year.
That being said, Alonso looked seriously pissed today and he isn't strong enough in the head to lose to his team mate more than once or twice, as was shown in 2007. So if Massa turns out to be genuinely faster (I'm not saying he will), I expect Alonso to be out of the team after this year.
That being said, Alonso looked seriously pissed today and he isn't strong enough in the head to lose to his team mate more than once or twice, as was shown in 2007. So if Massa turns out to be genuinely faster (I'm not saying he will), I expect Alonso to be out of the team after this year.
what a bunch of BS...what alonso (and none of us) could handle was seeing how dennis looked after his golden boy in detriment of him
QUOTE (MinT @ Mar 13 2010, 08:17)
presumably because his son beat Alonso in quali
I doubt that was the reason, as Kimi was much harder task to beat in qual than Alonso is, so I guess Felipes dad was expecting this result. Of course he is happy to see his son in first row in first GP, hence the happiness. Perhaps its Massa´s time to be a hero this year, who knows?
QUOTE (MinT @ Mar 13 2010, 16:17)
Good performance from Massa - bit pathectic though his dad jumping for joy, presumably because his son beat Alonso in quali
Really? We're going here already? First Hamilton's dad now massa's. For godsake his son nearly died last year and now he's come back and put in on the front row of the grid. Isn't he entitled to jump for joy? I'm not a ferrari fan but I really want Massa to do well this year.
QUOTE (MinT @ Mar 13 2010, 16:17)
Good performance from Massa - bit pathectic though his dad jumping for joy, presumably because his son beat Alonso in quali
Or maybe because his son was severely hurt and could have been killed by that spring. Jumping for joy that his son has made a complete recovery and that recovery was validated by his qualifying performance. Which makes your post.........pathetic.
QUOTE (MinT @ Mar 13 2010, 10:17)
Good performance from Massa - bit pathectic though his dad jumping for joy, presumably because his son beat Alonso in quali
Actually, the pathetic bit is the compelling need to read sinister motives into everyone's gesture, facial expression or statement. Is it possible, even remotely, that Massa's dad was simply happy to see his son do so well after nearly being KILLED last year? I sincerely doubt that either Massa or Alonso are the single motivating factor as to why people on opposite sides of the Ferrari garage behave the way they do.
QUOTE (yr @ Mar 13 2010, 15:58)
It seemed to me that in most sessions Felipe was ahead of Alonso - untill Alonso suddenly at the near of the end of session lapped time which was several tenths faster than Felipe´s best one.
alonso was quicker in practice 3, q1, q2 and missed it in q3
alonso did a second attempt in q1 because in his first lap was blocked by glock (I think) in the back straight, but was way faster than massa in s1, and s2.
q2 both drivers had same amount of attempts, and fernando was quicker in both attempts
q3 alonso was faster in his 1st attempt and lost it in his 2nd attempt
don't know where the hell you got your info from to say felipe was always ahead
QUOTE (MinT @ Mar 13 2010, 18:17)
Good performance from Massa - bit pathectic though his dad jumping for joy, presumably because his son beat Alonso in quali
after the scare they had in the last qualification in Hungary, you don't have to be surprised to see his father looking extremely happy that his son (who could have died last year) is back and doing very good....
I think his joy was genuine not "pathetic" ...at least that how I see it ....
QUOTE (coopz @ Mar 13 2010, 14:42)
Definitely no room for such mistakes but apparently Alonso said he didn't make a mistake and was more focused on the race, so that could explain why Massa was so much faster suddenly when he was behind all the time. We will see tomorrow anyway, but I worried faster cars will get stuck and not be able to overtake.
Does that mean Alonso's car was set up more for a heavier fuel load?
QUOTE (otoelpiloto @ Mar 13 2010, 16:24)
what a bunch of BS...what alonso (and none of us) could handle was seeing how dennis looked after his golden boy in detriment of him
Which was how? Allowing him to get on a drive or not taming a super kid well enough?
QUOTE (Scudetto @ Mar 13 2010, 16:27)
Actually, the pathetic bit is the compelling need to read sinister motives into everyone's gesture, facial expression or statement. Is it possible, even remotely, that Massa's dad was simply happy to see his son do so well after nearly being KILLED last year? I sincerely doubt that either Massa or Alonso are the single motivating factor as to why people on opposite sides of the Ferrari garage behave the way they do.
REMEMBER
To show happyness about the performance of the other driver in the presence of the Alonso is crime punishable by toy throwing.
QUOTE (otoelpiloto @ Mar 13 2010, 16:27)
don't know where the hell you got your info from to say felipe was always ahead
Felipe was ahead when it counted
QUOTE (Yorkie @ Mar 13 2010, 16:29)
Does that mean Alonso's car was set up more for a heavier fuel load?
I think so, just look how all the cars had been slower in q3 than q2 but massa
QUOTE (fed up @ Mar 13 2010, 16:30)
Felipe was ahead when it counted
did I miss the race? what time was it at?
I just wonder. That day when Alonso outqualifies Felipe because Felipe made a "mistake", will the Alonso fanboys give Felipe the benefit of a doubt? Or will it be the "Alonso greatness" factor all over?
I for one enjoyed Alonso's body language during the weighting and PC. His somewhat amazed and rattled look was quite amusing to watch. This guy is so full of himself. Even though I'm a tifoso first I know I will never get used to him.
Luca brought Pandora's box to Maranello and boxes never stay closed forever. It's just a matter of time...
I for one enjoyed Alonso's body language during the weighting and PC. His somewhat amazed and rattled look was quite amusing to watch. This guy is so full of himself. Even though I'm a tifoso first I know I will never get used to him.
Luca brought Pandora's box to Maranello and boxes never stay closed forever. It's just a matter of time...
QUOTE (otoelpiloto @ Mar 13 2010, 08:30)
I think so, just look how all the cars had been slower in q3 than q2 but massa
Don't forget Alonso is a much smarter guy than he was in 2007.
One tiny rule change this year, you have to start on the set of tire you qualify with..................
QUOTE (Anomnader @ Mar 13 2010, 17:29)
REMEMBER
To show happyness about the performance of the other driver in the presence of the Alonso is crime punishable by toy throwing.
To show happyness about the performance of the other driver in the presence of the Alonso is crime punishable by toy throwing.
I am starting to love this place.
QUOTE (Anomnader @ Mar 13 2010, 10:29)
REMEMBER
To show happyness about the performance of the other driver in the presence of the Alonso is crime punishable by toy throwing.
To show happyness about the performance of the other driver in the presence of the Alonso is crime punishable by toy throwing.
Thanks for proving the point.
I mean, yeah its one thing to moan about mechanics cheering another driver, but his DAD!!!!!!!!! come on
QUOTE (VicR @ Mar 13 2010, 16:31)
Luca brought Pandora's box to Maranello and boxes never stay closed forever. It's just a matter of time...
Hear hear, won't be surprised if the Spanish media rags are all over Felipe soon. "Shut up"
QUOTE (rko281 @ Mar 13 2010, 16:21)
true words except I wouldn't call it "so bad..."
except I wouldn't call it "so bad..." Well it was bad enough to negate his record number of fastest laps
QUOTE (Anomnader @ Mar 13 2010, 16:39)
I mean, yeah its one thing to moan about mechanics cheering another driver,
it only happens in mclaren man
There is a lot of Alonso hating in this BB,but i get the impression that its not because of how he is or acts,but because of some supporters that just don't help the cause 
.
May i dare to say im correct?
Or is it just because there are as many fanboys as there are haters?
.May i dare to say im correct?
Or is it just because there are as many fanboys as there are haters?
QUOTE (otoelpiloto @ Mar 13 2010, 16:24)
what a bunch of BS...what alonso (and none of us) could handle was seeing how dennis looked after his golden boy in detriment of him
Yes we know how Alonso's teammates should be treated aka Renault
QUOTE (otoelpiloto @ Mar 13 2010, 16:41)
it only happens in mclaren man
Really, you saying no Ferrari mechanics cheered Massa? Bad on them then.
QUOTE (coopz @ Mar 13 2010, 15:40)
Are you really suggesting that any driver should be happy when they qualify 3rd when their goal was pole?. All drivers are unhappy when they lose to their team mates, so i don't see the point of your post other than trolling. Of course he is not happy and shouldn't be happy. Only losers are happy when they lose. Michael is not a comparison he is at a different stage of his career, and any happiness was pretend anyway. Its funny how you think Alonso should have been happy about qualifying 3rd behind his team mate. ...
My point was that Fred's reaction wasn't mere 'unhappiness'.
It certainly wasn't just disappointment.
His reaction was something entirely different.
Surprise was definitely part of it.
But do try and watch the drivers interacting at the weigh in after qualifying. Then you might understand.
Only one driver got pole.
But it was the guy that was third that seemed far and away the most 'down' from all nine 'losers'.
QUOTE (Feanaro @ Mar 13 2010, 16:42)
There is a lot of Alonso hating in this BB,but i get the impression that its not because of how he is or acts,but because of some supporters that just don't help the cause .
May i dare to say im correct?
Or is it just because there are as many fanboys as there are haters?
.May i dare to say im correct?
Or is it just because there are as many fanboys as there are haters?
I think you are fully correct, sometimes his fans make slightly over the top statements (the media doesn't help). I don't think many hate Alonso, he used to be my favourite driver, but he gets knocked back in reaction to what his fans are saying.
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