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who ? Renault or F1.com ? because he definitely is.
formula1.com, it's their survey
QUOTE (korzeniow @ Jan 15 2010, 19:41) 
formula1.com, it's their survey
voted heidfeld - it's a no brainer
I like Nick - voted for him. Solid, consistent driver.
I also like Robert - he is extremely fast given right hardware. and the guy would jump out of his skin to outscore Nick again.
All in all - (would be) good for the team.
I also like Robert - he is extremely fast given right hardware. and the guy would jump out of his skin to outscore Nick again.
All in all - (would be) good for the team.
I want to see all 3 in F1 but voted Sato
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Pepe Jeans, and MegaFon Universia leave the Renault F1 Team for the 2010 season, as shown by the press of the French team. With the departure of MegaFon, Vitaly Petrov track the position of second pilot can be removed ...
MegaFon, whose logo appeared on the Renault R29 at the weekend's Monaco GP, should not continue with Renault this season. The third mobile operator Russian advance stroke priori not wish to continue its partnership with Renault after a takeover by Genii Capital shares of Enstone. With the departure of MegaFon, the track fades Vitaly Petrov. To bounce back from Meta1 Campos, research sponsors?
Universia, a subsidiary of Santander, leaving Renault at the same time Fernando Alonso. His withdrawal was already announced in recent months.
The surprise comes from Pepe Jeans, who seemed to have increased his involvement in Renault in 2009. The English brand of clothing should not renew his contract with Renault this season. OMP Racing has signed a contract with Diamond this week and replaces Puma.
In all, 9 are sponsors and technical partners who are no longer presented on press releases from the French team. Among them, Pepe Jeans, Universia, MegaFon, APC, Appro, DMG, Puma, Steria and SDL Tridion.
MegaFon, whose logo appeared on the Renault R29 at the weekend's Monaco GP, should not continue with Renault this season. The third mobile operator Russian advance stroke priori not wish to continue its partnership with Renault after a takeover by Genii Capital shares of Enstone. With the departure of MegaFon, the track fades Vitaly Petrov. To bounce back from Meta1 Campos, research sponsors?
Universia, a subsidiary of Santander, leaving Renault at the same time Fernando Alonso. His withdrawal was already announced in recent months.
The surprise comes from Pepe Jeans, who seemed to have increased his involvement in Renault in 2009. The English brand of clothing should not renew his contract with Renault this season. OMP Racing has signed a contract with Diamond this week and replaces Puma.
In all, 9 are sponsors and technical partners who are no longer presented on press releases from the French team. Among them, Pepe Jeans, Universia, MegaFon, APC, Appro, DMG, Puma, Steria and SDL Tridion.
Source
Well, they got onething wrong there - Gazprom is Petrov's sponsor, not MegaFon.
Maby MegaFon isn't direct sponsor of Petrov but hiring the Russian was linked with MegaFon's money.
QUOTE (korzeniow @ Jan 16 2010, 21:20)
Maby MegaFon isn't direct sponsor of Petrov but hiring the Russian was linked with MegaFon's money.
Gerard Lopez was said to be looking to buy a team as early as the Brazilian Grand Prix. He was said to be in league with someone from MegaFon, who were one of Renault's sponsors at the time. The notion was that MegaFon would want Petrov (even though they weren't his sponsors) because both Petrov and MegaFon are Russian. There's some contention over where Petrov's backing comes from, probably because he doesn't run an actual sponsor logo - his car is adorned with a large RUSSIA decal instead (I believe this is because he is sponsorsed by Gazprom, who are rivals to Lukoil; Lukoil have their own driver development program and sponsor the likes of Mikhail Aleshin, so what Gazprom are trying to do is set Petrov up as being a Russian driver when the likes of Aleshin would be seen to be Lukoil drivers).
http://www.jamesallenonf1.com/
No engines parity. Good or bad for Renault? In qualy it's all about power...
No engines parity. Good or bad for Renault? In qualy it's all about power...
QUOTE (bankoq @ Jan 16 2010, 18:20)
http://www.jamesallenonf1.com/
No engines parity. Good or bad for Renault? In qualy it's all about power...
No engines parity. Good or bad for Renault? In qualy it's all about power...
well bad, since they wanted to "downgrade" the merc engines, but they still have the lowest consumption
QUOTE (bankoq @ Jan 16 2010, 18:20)
http://www.jamesallenonf1.com/
No engines parity. Good or bad for Renault? In qualy it's all about power...
No engines parity. Good or bad for Renault? In qualy it's all about power...
Well red Bull topped a few Q2 sessions last year using the Renault, So its not all about power.
But its not ideal at places like Monza or Spa
Red Bull had superb aero. It is all about power in qualy if we consider engines as seperate matter. Three tenths slower engine means you have to regain it in corners. In other words build better chassis than others. That's what Newey did last year.
QUOTE (Muzzinho @ Jan 16 2010, 17:25)
Well red Bull topped a few Q2 sessions last year using the Renault, So its not all about power.
But its not ideal at places like Monza or Spa
But its not ideal at places like Monza or Spa
Vettel set the fastest lap at Spa by quite a margin it has to be said.
QUOTE (salamin @ Jan 16 2010, 17:23)
well bad, since they wanted to "downgrade" the merc engines, but they still have the lowest consumption
Can you provide a quote from Renault asking that the Merc engine be "Downgraded"?
Engine Performance
Following suggestions that there is a differential between the performance of engines used in Formula One, the World Motor Sport Council has decided that should this be the case, and should the teams wish to eliminate this performance differential, they may be allowed to do so by reducing the performance of the more powerful engines. However, no engine upgrades will be allowed.
thanks for the link buttoneer
Following suggestions that there is a differential between the performance of engines used in Formula One, the World Motor Sport Council has decided that should this be the case, and should the teams wish to eliminate this performance differential, they may be allowed to do so by reducing the performance of the more powerful engines. However, no engine upgrades will be allowed.
thanks for the link buttoneer
QUOTE (Clatter @ Jan 16 2010, 20:03)
Not quite the same as the claim above though.
"They" refers to FIA/FOM not Renault though
Kubica begins work at Renault factory
I have exact the same problem
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Robert Kubica began his preparations for the 2010 season by visiting Renault's Enstone factory to try the cockpit of his new car.
The Pole got a seat fitting in a mock-up of this year's R30 car, also meeting up with new team boss Eric Boullier
The Pole got a seat fitting in a mock-up of this year's R30 car, also meeting up with new team boss Eric Boullier
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"The only difficulty I have is being patient enough to wait for the first test as it has been a long winter out of the car. Valencia cannot come soon enough!"
I have exact the same problem
That would be interesting to say the least.
Love it. 
QUOTE (V8 Fireworks @ Jan 16 2010, 22:04)
"They" refers to FIA/FOM not Renault though
As it's the Renault 2010 thread I rather think the OP used "they" to refer to Renault.
QUOTE (Clatter @ Jan 18 2010, 14:03)
As it's the Renault 2010 thread I rather think the OP used "they" to refer to Renault.
it wasn't obvious sorry, I ment the FIA
QUOTE (korzeniow @ Jan 18 2010, 13:59)
NICE!
Interesting info from an RF1 blogger:
- Renault made a fuel tank of 165kg.
- Mercedes made a fuel tank of 175 kg.
- Cosworth made a fuel tank of 185 kg.
Of course these are not facts yet, just rumours, but who knows.
- Renault made a fuel tank of 165kg.
- Mercedes made a fuel tank of 175 kg.
- Cosworth made a fuel tank of 185 kg.
Of course these are not facts yet, just rumours, but who knows.
It's pretty old info, discussed on this board.
QUOTE (thuGG @ Jan 18 2010, 15:31)
It's pretty old info, discussed on this board.
Then on 1 bit: true or false?
We don't know, every engine manufacturer works on the consumption of their engine. It's only speculative I suppose, based on last year's data.
QUOTE (korzeniow @ Jan 18 2010, 13:57)
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I already have a good relationship with my engineers and we talk on the phone every week as I want to know as much about the new car as possible.
What you guys think, can he add some tenths or some points to the downforce?
QUOTE (alecc @ Jan 18 2010, 16:02)
What you guys think, can he add some tenths or some points to the downforce?
Most likely. In the past he made HEI 0.5s faster, maby this time he do the same with the car
according to f1total renault failed its first frontal crash test
13 days till Renault launch the new car.
14 days till Renault start testing the new car...
You would think maybe now was a good time to announce the second driver?
Can anyone remember teams leaving it this late to sign their drivers, i dont ever remember it ever being this late?
Seems they are all still playing a complicated game of musical chairs, i hope the music stops soon.
14 days till Renault start testing the new car...
You would think maybe now was a good time to announce the second driver?
Can anyone remember teams leaving it this late to sign their drivers, i dont ever remember it ever being this late?
Seems they are all still playing a complicated game of musical chairs, i hope the music stops soon.
korzeniow, what do you think about it?
Some polish sponsors
f1rules send me link to this news.
Some polish sponsors
f1rules send me link to this news.
QUOTE (Carlo's @ Jan 18 2010, 16:40)
korzeniow, what do you think about it?
Some polish sponsors
f1rules send me link to this news.
Some polish sponsors
f1rules send me link to this news.
And what has that to do with Renault 2010?
New polish sponsors due to leave others company 
btw
list of current sponsors.
btw
list of current sponsors.
QUOTE (f1rules @ Jan 18 2010, 16:37)
according to f1total renault failed its first frontal crash test
Nothing uncommon. I think they failed at some early crash tests last year as well.
QUOTE (Carlo's @ Jan 18 2010, 16:40)
Some polish sponsors
Hehe, funny - although Biedronka is actually a Portugese company
I'm too not sure what's the connection with Renault here, but I don't follow the thread closely so I may have missed something.
QUOTE (Carlo's @ Jan 18 2010, 16:40)
korzeniow, what do you think about it?
Some polish sponsors
f1rules send me link to this news.
Some polish sponsors
f1rules send me link to this news.
Well, orlen is government controlled, so no way i'd approve;) And they have expensive petrol:P
cheers:)
Aboutu crash test - they failed first one too last year and made nose look tank-like afterwards, hope this will not be the case this time
QUOTE (Carlo's @ Jan 18 2010, 16:50)
New polish sponsors due to leave others company
Ah, ok then. Well, Orlen cannot sponsor Renault unless Total leaves the team and PKO is not an international brand. I see no company in Poland for whom sponsoring F1 would make any sense. Maybe some vodka manufacturers, but Kubica doesn't drink.
QUOTE (MadYarpen @ Jan 18 2010, 16:56)
Aboutu crash test - they failed first one too last year and made nose look tank-like afterwards, hope this will not be the case this time
I don't think the nose changed it's shape after the tests. Besides, in 2009 they also failed the side impact tests. There's progress ;)
QUOTE (bankoq @ Jan 16 2010, 19:28)
Red Bull had superb aero. It is all about power in qualy if we consider engines as seperate matter. Three tenths slower engine means you have to regain it in corners. In other words build better chassis than others. That's what Newey did last year.
It was reported 2,5 % or ~ 15 bph between best and worst engine...I do not believe when comparing these two(Mercedes as strongest vs Toyota as weakest)
15 bph gap can provide three thents advantage ....in past there were even bigger gaps in bph
Besides ,I do not believe Red Bull has best chasis throughout the whole season let alone superior one...
Brawn GP had a best chasis during 1st half of the season...
Check out what James Allen have to say on
THE SECOND SEATS AT RENAULT AND SAUBER
THE SECOND SEATS AT RENAULT AND SAUBER
I'm really looking forward to seeing the r30 (partly because I think it will look awesome and I have a good feeling about it), but I'm less fussed about the second driver, at this stage really the 2nd driver will be there to make up the numbers, Renault was always Alonso's team and now Renault is clearly shaping up as Kubica's team, and I think it works better that way than the old BMW 'let's split everything 50/50 approach' that ends up trying to please everyone but actually pleasing no one.
Plus, Kubica's guaranteed to have more attention, rather than being tied to a slow upwards progression forced by the management in order to appease the board. Kubica said in F1 Racing that these board influenced progressions didn't make sense and I think he was looking for a new team for when his contract ran out. He went to Renault because he felt they were racers.
QUOTE (Lukin83 @ Jan 18 2010, 17:07)
Ah, ok then. Well, Orlen cannot sponsor Renault unless Total leaves the team and PKO is not an international brand. I see no company in Poland for whom sponsoring F1 would make any sense. Maybe some vodka manufacturers, but Kubica doesn't drink.
I don't think the nose changed it's shape after the tests. Besides, in 2009 they also failed the side impact tests. There's progress ;)
I don't think the nose changed it's shape after the tests. Besides, in 2009 they also failed the side impact tests. There's progress ;)
just to be sure, i was kidding;)
and about drinking - it is never to late, vodka FTW!
More guestimating the r30:
There is no Megafon at Renault anymore...
By phone?
QUOTE (alecc @ Jan 18 2010, 16:02)
What you guys think, can he add some tenths or some points to the downforce?
By phone?
QUOTE (CaptainJackSparrow @ Jan 18 2010, 20:52)
More guestimating the r30:
QUOTE (CaptainJackSparrow @ Jan 18 2010, 21:52)
More guestimating the r30:
I liked the yellow-black livery before I saw this:
http://90right.files.wordpress.com/2009/10...ault-v2-car.jpg
Silver-yellow-white with little red is for me a big WOW
And I don't like this boring yellow-black anymore ;)
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