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alan
QUOTE (dabrasco @ Oct 27 2009, 14:51) *
here is another major video most of us probably havent seen

major Hamilton and Vettel fight in the wet in F3 season 2005, one that underlines the talents of both

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nTLKVZxkp1I...feature=related


My word...i wish formula 1 was like that. This boy had and has talent!
klyster
Awesome videos up.gif
Vilenova
QUOTE (dabrasco @ Oct 27 2009, 06:51) *
here is another major video most of us probably havent seen

major Hamilton and Vettel fight in the wet in F3 season 2005, one that underlines the talents of both

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nTLKVZxkp1I...feature=related

Excellent clip. clap.gif

Shows how tenacious Hamilton is but it also shows how cool Vettel was while defending.
Bishy
QUOTE (alan @ Oct 27 2009, 22:20) *
My word...i wish formula 1 was like that. This boy had and has talent!



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skid solo
QUOTE (alan @ Oct 27 2009, 22:20) *
My word...i wish formula 1 was like that. This boy had and has talent!


Brilliant and some say there is no talent in modern F1....
D.M.N.
Aww: http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/showbiz/news/a...gest-heart.html

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Lewis Hamilton has paid tribute to his girlfriend Nicole Scherzinger, describing the Pussycat Dolls star as "incredibly beautiful".

The Formula One racing driver, who last month rubbished rumours of a split from Scherzinger, praised his partner during a take-over of radio station Kiss 100.

Speaking about his early interest in the popstar, Hamilton commented: "When I first saw [Pussycat Dolls] in 2004, I was blown away by the talent and beauty of Nicole Scherzinger. I had a serious crush on her, to say the least.

"'Don't Cha' is pretty wicked, because now she's my lady and now I can say 'don't cha wish your girlfriend was hot like mine!'"

He continued: "I mentioned her huge talent and how incredibly beautiful she is, but she also has the biggest heart, gives me nothing but love, and looks after me."

Hamilton's take-over of Kiss 100 airs tomorrow between 1pm and 2pm.
Buttoneer
Don't cha wish you cared?
Suntrek
QUOTE (Buttoneer @ Oct 30 2009, 16:46) *
Don't cha wish you cared?


Not really, no.
mkay
I so love this guy.

His PR skills are immense.
overmatik
By Kimi's words today it seems that it's all a matter of details before he's announced in Mclaren. He also said that Lewis isn't interfering in the negotiations.

Let the party get started for the ultimate pairing in F1!
Turbo Lag
QUOTE (D.M.N. @ Oct 30 2009, 15:37) *


My girlfriend's better biggrin.gif

I would post a picture but, you know...... I don't have one ambivalent.gif biggrin.gif
dabrasco
smh @ "She...looks after me" a racing driver should be more hardcore down.gif down.gif







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hunnylander
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pXWm1H8Khd8
werks prototype
QUOTE (overmatik @ Oct 30 2009, 17:02) *
By Kimi's words today it seems that it's all a matter of details before he's announced in Mclaren. He also said that Lewis isn't interfering in the negotiations.

Let the party get started for the ultimate pairing in F1!


It's pointless really trying to drive an artificial wedge between these two ex WDC's. Neither really has a history nor the personality type for political conflict. Competitors yes, bitches no! I still worry though that they are going to take huge amounts of points of each other and leave the way clear for dick dastardlys mutley.
Arion
QUOTE (hunnylander @ Oct 30 2009, 18:29) *


they deserve each other lol.gif

Don't cha wish your boyfriend was short like mine

No, Nichole, I don't.

undersquare
QUOTE (werks prototype @ Oct 30 2009, 17:49) *
I still worry though that they are going to take huge amounts of points of each other and leave the way clear for dick dastardlys mutley.


Have to account for the times they're going to take more points off the other guys by 1-2-ing though smoking.gif

From the point of view of Fernando, Seb, or Jense for example, they have to beat Lewis AND Kimi to make headway. That's a daunting prospect for them cool.gif
Ellios
QUOTE (werks prototype @ Oct 30 2009, 17:49) *
It's pointless really trying to drive an artificial wedge between these two ex WDC's. Neither really has a history nor the personality type for political conflict. Competitors yes, bitches no! I still worry though that they are going to take huge amounts of points of each other and leave the way clear for dick dastardlys mutley.



I agree that there's no bad feeling between these two, I also believe Hamilton would actually relish the opportunity to race against Kimi Raikkonen in the same team - I secretly think Hamilton enjoyed having Alonso as a team mate to race against (just not the politics), and Kimi Raikkonen probably couldn't care less anyway.

Also agree they will take points off each other if Ferrari set their stall out for a one man team (I expect they will) - but this is one balsy move from Mclaren, fair play to them for going for it.
Obi Offiah
QUOTE (overmatik @ Oct 30 2009, 18:02) *
He also said that Lewis isn't interfering in the negotiations.

This is quite surprising. Considering what I've been reading on this bb, particularly those of none Hamilton supporters, I'd have expected to Kimi to state that the Hamilton's and Nicole were attempting to block his move and were having a negative influence on his negotiations with McLaren. I'm sure Nicole is trying to prevent Kimi from partnering Lewis but Kimi is not the type to air dirty laundry in public.
Arion
QUOTE (undersquare @ Oct 30 2009, 19:00) *
Have to account for the times they're going to take more points off the other guys by 1-2-ing though smoking.gif

From the point of view of Fernando, Seb, or Jense for example, they have to beat Lewis AND Kimi to make headway. That's a daunting prospect for them cool.gif


Fred had to do the same in 2007, what's so daunting about it?

undersquare
QUOTE (Arion @ Oct 30 2009, 18:10) *
Fred had to do the same in 2007, what's so daunting about it?


Well it daunted Fernando didn't it? tongue.gif
Arion
QUOTE (undersquare @ Oct 30 2009, 19:13) *
Well it daunted Fernando didn't it? tongue.gif


Nothing to do with Kimi though.

Not sure why you think they will take more points off the Ferraris. If it's a repeat of 2007 where McLaren is strong on some tracks and Ferrari in others, it will be McLaren 1-2, Ferrari 1-2. Assuming Massa is quick of course, they will get 1-2 as well.
Demo.
QUOTE (Arion @ Oct 30 2009, 18:21) *
Nothing to do with Kimi though.

Not sure why you think they will take more points off the Ferraris. If it's a repeat of 2007 where McLaren is strong on some tracks and Ferrari in others, it will be McLaren 1-2, Ferrari 1-2. Assuming Massa is quick of course, they will get 1-2 as well.


you seam to assume that telfonso will be quick isnt that a massive assumtion by you?
We have seen this year how difficult the Ferrari is and we have seen over the last two years how bad teflonso is at improving cars hence why Renault have failed to fairly win one race in 2 years.
What makes you think he will either get on with the car or improve it to the point he can get up into q2
Arion
QUOTE (Demo. @ Oct 31 2009, 08:19) *
you seam to assume that telfonso will be quick isnt that a massive assumtion by you?
We have seen this year how difficult the Ferrari is and we have seen over the last two years how bad teflonso is at improving cars hence why Renault have failed to fairly win one race in 2 years.
What makes you think he will either get on with the car or improve it to the point he can get up into q2


A massive assumption? how is it more massive than the other 3 drivers? Massa, for obvious reason, is the one whose' form is most uncertain. I actually like Massa, but even his supporters would admit it's not certain he will be as quick as before.

Ferrari can produce fast cars with or without Alonso,I was only talking about his driving.
F61 will be a revolution instead of a evolution, Alonso will be driving F61, not F60. Doesn't matter what a difficult car F60 is.




Bishy
You really have gotta take your hat off to Lewis after that, on a track new to everyone he's proved his natural ability yet again; lordy lordy lord eek.gif
MegaManson
QUOTE (Bishy @ Oct 31 2009, 16:41) *
You really have gotta take your hat off to Lewis after that, on a track new to everyone he's proved his natural ability yet again; lordy lordy lord eek.gif


Are you related to Matt Bishop by any chance ? you seem to be doing his job of spinning and twisting everything brilliantly up.gif
Pegaso
QUOTE (MegaManson @ Oct 31 2009, 17:45) *
Are you related to Matt Bishop by any chance ? you seem to be doing his job of spinning and twisting everything brilliantly up.gif

Nope, apparently he's a key consultant to Macca.
potmotr
QUOTE (Bishy @ Oct 31 2009, 16:41) *
You really have gotta take your hat off to Lewis after that, on a track new to everyone he's proved his natural ability yet again; lordy lordy lord eek.gif


Agreed.

Either he's seven laps lighter than everyone else, or he really was totally awesome today.

I think the latter. smile.gif
Bishy
We'll know for sure once the weights are released, such a shame Kovi didn't get a chance to run in the final part of quali as the icing on the cake today (last race of the year) woulda been a McLaren 1-2 frown.gif
hunnylander
QUOTE (MegaManson @ Oct 31 2009, 18:45) *
Are you related to Matt Bishop by any chance ? you seem to be doing his job of spinning and twisting everything brilliantly up.gif

Cheer for your fav drivers, instead of eating sour grapes. It isn't good for you. smoking.gif
raiseyourfistfor
QUOTE (MegaManson @ Oct 31 2009, 12:45) *
Are you related to Matt Bishop by any chance ? you seem to be doing his job of spinning and twisting everything brilliantly up.gif


Bitter? ALoLonso couldn't even get out Q1 roflmao.gif , while mega Lewis was P1
potmotr
Hamilton's pole today was quite brilliant.

I really don't understand how you can see it any other way.

According to James Allen, this is how he did it:

It is in the middle sector with its two long straights that the McLaren was untouchable, setting a sector time some 7/10ths of a second faster than his opponents. KERS accounts for 4/10ths of that, according to engineers, but Hamilton seems to have mastered the corners linking them.

http://www.jamesallenonf1.com/2009/10/hami...n-at-abu-dhabi/


raiseyourfistfor
It's not the first time Lewis has crushed the field so badly in Qualifying. Last year in Canada he was again .6s quicker than 2nd place.

Hopefully the race will go better than that one though
Ellios
I've just re-watched the edited highlights and pole lap again (twice!) of the Abu Dhabi GP - and Hamiltons lap is stunning, even fuel corrected according to the BBC it still puts him in front of the Red Bulls (Previously I'd thought the Red Bulls had the edge).


I don't know if he has really crushed the field, we can see during the race if he can extend a gap - but it was truly brilliant. Again Vettel in the press conference afterwards was still surprised by the time.


Kenaltgr
QUOTE (Bishy @ Oct 31 2009, 16:41) *
You really have gotta take your hat off to Lewis after that, on a track new to everyone he's proved his natural ability yet again; lordy lordy lord eek.gif



Why was he 15th and 16th in the races at the start of the year with his natural ability, Oh forgot, he didn't have the best car back then.
Kenaltgr
QUOTE (raiseyourfistfor @ Oct 31 2009, 16:55) *
Bitter? ALoLonso couldn't even get out Q1 roflmao.gif , while mega Lewis was P1


The funny part is Hamilton would be P20 driving the Renault.
P123
QUOTE (Kenaltgr @ Oct 31 2009, 19:21) *
The funny part is Hamilton would be P20 driving the Renault.


Nope, he'd be around where Alonso is.
bond
QUOTE (Kenaltgr @ Oct 31 2009, 20:21) *
The funny part is Hamilton would be P20 driving the Renault.

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ItisI
QUOTE (Kenaltgr @ Oct 31 2009, 20:21) *
The funny part is Hamilton would be P20 driving the Renault.


And Alonso would be far far far behind Lewis in this same McLaren, Lewis would have crushed Alonso, as we seen in 2007 experienced vs rookie ... And of course, Lewis would do a shitty job in the Renault, but shall i remind you Lewis isnt in the Renault?

Everyone would do a shitty job in that Renault, but wonderboy Alonso really adds a few 0.1's ... *cough* ... It's only Alonso that pushes that Renault through the field. I'm so curious how Alonso is going to perform in Ferrari next year, and what is going to happen is Massa starting to beat him? ... My my my, i dont think Ferrari / Alonso is a good combi. Next year will prove just that.
Bishy
QUOTE (Kenaltgr @ Oct 31 2009, 19:20) *
Why was he 15th and 16th in the races at the start of the year with his natural ability, Oh forgot, he didn't have the best car back then.



I've had nothing but praise for the car and the Team that produced it however I think you need to tell Heikki too that he's in the best car, that facts seems lost on him...
hunnylander
QUOTE (Kenaltgr @ Oct 31 2009, 21:20) *
Why was he 15th and 16th in the races at the start of the year with his natural ability, Oh forgot, he didn't have the best car back then.

At the start of the year:
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gincarnated
QUOTE (Kenaltgr @ Oct 31 2009, 19:20) *
Why was he 15th and 16th in the races at the start of the year with his natural ability, Oh forgot, he didn't have the best car back then.


You seem to have a short memory. Lewis was punching well above the cars abilities at the start of the year before he became completely disheartened. Should have had a podium at Melbourne before the team got it completely wrong and brought about liegate and stayed in the points until Barcelona.
raiseyourfistfor
QUOTE (Kenaltgr @ Oct 31 2009, 15:21) *
The funny part is Hamilton would still be winning races driving the Renault.



Fixed.
Kenaltgr
QUOTE (ItisI @ Oct 31 2009, 19:59) *
And Alonso would be far far far behind Lewis in this same McLaren, Lewis would have crushed Alonso, as we seen in 2007 experienced vs rookie ... And of course, Lewis would do a shitty job in the Renault, but shall i remind you Lewis isnt in the Renault?

Everyone would do a shitty job in that Renault, but wonderboy Alonso really adds a few 0.1's ... *cough* ... It's only Alonso that pushes that Renault through the field. I'm so curious how Alonso is going to perform in Ferrari next year, and what is going to happen is Massa starting to beat him? ... My my my, i dont think Ferrari / Alonso is a good combi. Next year will prove just that.


I'd be more worried about Lewis starting FIA investigations against his own team when Kimi starts beating him in races. It will be Monaco 2007 over and over whenever Kimi beats Hamilton.
RobH
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bond
QUOTE (Kenaltgr @ Oct 31 2009, 23:34) *
I'd be more worried about Lewis starting FIA investigations against his own team when Kimi starts beating him in races. It will be Monaco 2007 over and over whenever Kimi beats Hamilton.


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Funny stuff...
maccaFTW
QUOTE (Kenaltgr @ Oct 31 2009, 15:20) *
Why was he 15th and 16th in the races at the start of the year with his natural ability, Oh forgot, he didn't have the best car back then.


Frank Williams said recently that if you have a car that is 1/4 of a second to half a second off the best car, then if you have the best driver in the world, he will make a difference. But if you have a car more than 1 second off the pace, having the best driver in the world will make no difference.

By all accounts, McLaren was somewhere in the neighborhood of 1.75-2.5 seconds off the pace in Melbourne. So according to Frank Williams, who I think we can all agree has the experience upon which to base knowledge of what he's talking about when it comes to drivers, no one could have done anything with that car.

I'm not saying Hamilton is necessarily the best driver in the world. (He may be, but that's not my point.) The point is that sometimes the car is so bad, you can't do anything with it. Vettel didn't exactly shine in the Toro Rosso the first few races of 2008 before he got the 2008-spec chassis from Red Bull Technology.

And he didn't qualify 15-16th in every race at the start. Melborne, yes. Sepang, he made Q2. Shanghai and Bahrain, he made Q3 with a massaged- but still crap- car. Even with a crap car, he still had good race pace and managed to finish in the points in the first four races of the year.
maccaFTW
QUOTE (raiseyourfistfor @ Oct 31 2009, 17:11) *
Fixed.


While Hamilton is brilliant and has done an awesome job this year, he wouldn't have won races in the Renault this year. No one would have. While the car was been better than the McLaren on many occasions in the first half of the year, the McLaren has in fact been better in the second half of the season since the Nurburgring.
maccaFTW
QUOTE (dabrasco @ Oct 27 2009, 06:51) *
here is another major video most of us probably havent seen

major Hamilton and Vettel fight in the wet in F3 season 2005, one that underlines the talents of both

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nTLKVZxkp1I...feature=related


Thank you for that. That's fantastic stuff.

Personally, I think we're going to see a lot of this between Hamilton and Vettel in the future. Personally, I think they're the two best out there right now.
hsvone
QUOTE (maccaFTW @ Nov 1 2009, 01:26) *
Thank you for that. That's fantastic stuff.

Personally, I think we're going to see a lot of this between Hamilton and Vettel in the future. Personally, I think they're the two best out there right now.


Right now the best young talent, but there is an 'old' master waiting to clip their wings. wink.gif

I agree though fantastic racing! up.gif
Conk
It was the car as always. Lewis is just like Button fast when the car is fast slow when the car is slow, the real standouts at going quick in a slow car are Alonso and Fisi, Lewis not so much. If Lewis continues to develop his race craft and gets it to a point where it is in balance with his God given natural ability he will be in league with Alonso. Until he matures as a driver he will do all his winning and pole setting when he has the fastest (by far this weekend) car. Nothing special here sorry.
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