they said she looked abit like some famous transgender bloke, mr(s?) pete burns



which is partly true i guess, she is humoid, but far easier on the eye and not scaring to the mind.

actully pete is alright guy, just sometimes he looks awful xD

For those that are interested, Lewis is going to be on Capital FM breakfast around 7:30-8am on Monday.

while I honestly think that Lewis probably already is the best driver in F1 with alonso and, yes, despite horrible season, Kimi, the best driver in F1, he did not deserve to win the 2008 WDC. He deserved to win the 2007 WDC a lot more (if his car was not illegal and reinstating him and alonso after the world council was a Bernie joke). Massa was the best driver among the title contenders and Ferrari is responsible for his defeat. Hungary with 3 laps to go and, worst of all, the green light in the singapore GP, cost Felipe 20 points, comfortably p;acing the bloke well ahead of Lewis.

He is a top driver, the best british driver since Stewart for sure and possibly an all time great, as his career unfolds. But 2008 was hardly a deserved title and him chocking once again laps from the end and only Glock's problems gifting him the title....well......I know the Brits will take it any way it comes, but it sure felt not in the same league of Schumi or alonso's titles

who is that weird person in the pic?

[QUOTE]Originally posted by ScottDixonF1
[B]Even though he won F Renault I am not a big fan of Hamilton

yeah he improved as the season went on but he seemed pretty sluggish IMHO and certainly didn't look to me like an F1 superstar in the making, I think at best he will be about the level of Panis or DC or someone like that but of course being Ron's nephew and having McLaren connections he will be fast tracked into F1 where I believe he will struggle

MMM got that a bit wrong didn't you

Yes I remember Schumi first title, a sublime drive trying desperately to get away from a driver he regarded as average until he left the track smashed into a wall and damaged his front suspension, he then decided to drive into Mr average as he passed him on the inside so retiring both on the spot and winning the championship.. What a league that was

Zenspeed wrote:

I know the Brits will take it any way it comes, but it sure felt not in the same league of Schumi or alonso's titles

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I am not british and think Hamilton deserved that title. Sure Massa was unlucky put thats part of the sport.
With regards to the quality of this title I think you must be kidding. I think Schumis first title was a bunch of crap and shouldn't even be classified as such.

As for Alonso he was probably one of the luckiest WDC over the last decade. The enourmous tire advantage he enjoyed in 2005 made it a cakewalk for him and in 2006 the title was handed to him - Ferrari engine department sends it's regards. So keep it in perspective.

Yeah, especially given that the scope of the ridiculous penalties he got that season make Hamilton's seem utterly trivial.

I'd agree with that. Hamilton's quite obviously not the governing bodies favourite but 1994 was classic FIA fiddling to take it down to the wire.

Schumi's penalties in 1994 were akin to locking up Al Capone for tax evasion rather than murder.

I have a feeling that some of those penalties were overblown as some sort of "payback" because of the FIA's inability to take them to task over the traction control.

Could well be, but the argument last year not to kick the drivers out of the title race was they had nothing to do with the transgressions of their team.

Michael was naughty on occassion in 94, but the way the FIA came down on him and benneton is ridiculous and in 80% of instances down to factors completely out of Michael's hands.

He may or may not have driven into Hill, on that incident I tend to think it wasn't deliberate (later incidents are a little less defensible). But the fact that Hill was even in contention for the title despite Schumacher's (overall) clearly superior performances that season was because of FIA interference.

I think it would have been a gross travesty for Hill to have won in 94 given all the meddling in the title fight that year. The right man won. Just maybe not the right way though.

A little bit like this season. I'm aggrieved Massa didn't win the title, but at least by having Hamilton win it, it will kind of mitigate the relative unfairness of the Spa penalty.

I totally agree with you sentiments here Kar , very eloquently put ...

You see for me Benneton were let off lightly in 94. An illegal fuel hose and illegal traction control, ignoring of black flags and the final incident at Adelaide only resulted in a two race ban for one driver, most of the infractions were to do with the team blatantly braking the rules or telling their driver to ignore a rule (black flag). For me the team should have been punished much more heavily. Schumacher was the scapegoat at Silverstone for his teams actions in the season so far and the reason he ignored the black flag was because his team told him to.

Big big difference. Even ignoring the fact that the FIA could find no evidence that the McLaren was in any way copied from the Ferrari, the McLaren drivers were not driving cars that were outside the regulations. If they had silver-painted Ferraris they would still have been driving perfectly legal, legitimate cars that conformed to F1 regulations and they would not have received any advantage that augmented their driving skills unfairly.

That CANNOT be said of the 1994 Benetton.

This is why I stopped subscribing a long time ago.

Can you scan it's contents and post it there?

Interesting that in a season in which Hamilton's driving style has come under criticism from the FIA stewards and his F1 rivals alike, he's been voted the "most impressive f1 driver" by the combined 2008 grids of MotoGP and the WRC!

LINK Page 24

Ah the FIA-Milton membership. That must be really worth subscribing to.
What's in it? Being stripped of wins? Random penalties at each given race perhaps?

Where can I subscribe?

Lewis enters the Formula 1 Hall of Fame...

http://www.formula1.com/teams_and_drivers/hall_of_fame/828/

All the champions are in there, there's nothing wrong with that.

Not saying there is... Nice Bio...


PS "Sebastien Bourdais is innocent!" awesome!!

Of course, it's the second Hall of Fame that he's entered.

3rd. We not counting the Stevenage Hall of Fame?

The Croydon one has refused him entry though.

That's an excluisive?

once massa couldnt overhaul lewis without the fia bonus points, i didnt want him to win this title, this year. simply because of the fia issue, massa deservers to win the title by his own efforts, not governing body gifts. and we now know for sure hes good enough todo that

It may have escaped your attention, but whilst mulling through London's finest quality newspaper, ehm, Lite, on my way home from the City, I read that Lewis plans to take his family, including Nicole, into space on Richard Branson's Galactic spacehopper, splashing out a cool 625,000 quid for the honour. Also here:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/artic...oving-kiss.html

I find the fact that people had a mini debate about it below the article even more worrying than the fact that that article exists in this day and age.

Yeah because we all know thats the popular thing to do now days. "hey babe wanna go up to space?

my comment was more on the rest of the article, who gives two shits if they kissed?

The real one (I swear I first thought it was a photoshop work too )

that smile is a cross between sexual predictor and viking direct

Are they trying to make people hate him? Because that style of journalism isn't exactly making me want to jump on the fanboy bandwagon.

The magazine was fairly good when it started off. It's pretty much gutter press now.

Oh dear, after getting sucked in and buying the 'Hans boredom' Schumacher interview edition I vowed never, ever again.

That cover just confirms it. It's like 12 months of ITV distilled down to a cover.

I stopped reading F1 magazine when I was 13 .... other than for the article they had a few years ago on the F2004 compared to the Benneton B194

Oh, no. Same sh*t again... twice in a row :\

http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/showbiz/a13836...h-hamilton.html

Scherzinger wants kids with Lewis.

"I'm a sucker for him and how romantic he is.

What is this?

http://www.mirror.co.uk/most-popular/2008/...15875-20966553/

Beatiful angel kids

Jesus ...

Don't get me wrong she's hot and all, but seriously ... angel babies?!

Lewis did not win the sports personality of the year award at the BBC. This, despite being pushed forward by Damon Hill, Jacky Stewart, John Surtees, John Watson, Stirling Moss, etc.


http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/tv_and_rad...ear/7782818.stm

Bet he's gutted.

Bet he's not...

He was beaten by Chris Hoy. As a keen cyclist, I know that Cycling Weekly has been running a campaign for votes for weeks, with the recommendation at all readers vote ten times to ensure a cyclist wins. Maybe Autosport should have considered a similar proposal?

I dont understand. Do they vote on a personality based in psychological meaning? Do they vote how much one is doing on the scale of introvert-extravert? And why curb it only to sports people? If you wanna have a personality contest, you could invite all sorts of disciplines? If it was for sporting achievements why not simply call it sportsman of the year?

Im confused

Because, amazing as it seems, women do sport as well. They're not just barefoot and pregnant by the kitchen sink.

I'm not so sure. I reckon this might have ruined his championship for him. Why win the formula one world title if you aren't going to be given an award by a television company? And losing out to a multiple olympic gold-medallist no less! Such indignity.

Yeah, right...

I love it when people miss the irony.