Buttoneer
May 16 2009, 14:39
Good item from James Allans blog commenting on Lewis' place in the media.
QUOTE (Buttoneer @ May 16 2009, 16:39)

Good item from James Allans blog commenting on Lewis' place in the media.
Surprisingly, I rather find myself agreeing with Suzy.
undersquare
May 16 2009, 16:19
QUOTE (as65p @ May 16 2009, 16:33)

Surprisingly, I rather find myself agreeing with Suzy.

Surprisingly?
Lewis being 'political' apparently demonstrated by his saying he had no2 on his car two years ago and Anthony supposedly complaining to a steward about Fernando, also in 2007.
Suzy sounds like a fellow disappointed Alonso fan, then, no surprise there

.
airwise
May 16 2009, 16:29
I find it remarkable that any member of her majesty's press would take umbrage simply because someone was economical with the truth for the purpose of furthering their interests.
hunnylander
May 16 2009, 16:31
QUOTE (undersquare @ May 16 2009, 18:19)

Surprisingly?
Lewis being 'political' apparently demonstrated by his saying he had no2 on his car two years ago and Anthony supposedly complaining to a steward about Fernando, also in 2007.
Suzy sounds like a fellow disappointed Alonso fan, then, no surprise there

.
Suzy seems to be just a naive simple-minded girl, who thinks she can knows everything about a person via the media.
Funny to hear Lewis saying that he doesn’t enjoy politics when in fact he is one of the most political drivers.Lewis for president then!
Buttoneer
May 17 2009, 08:20
QUOTE (hunnylander @ May 16 2009, 17:31)

Suzy seems to be just a naive simple-minded girl, who thinks she can knows everything about a person via the media.
OfficeLinebacker
May 17 2009, 19:21
QUOTE (werks prototype @ May 14 2009, 17:24)

It's true, I don't like the whole parent-dad thing it doesn't look right. I think parents should maybe attend two or three races a season and be restricted to the garage. I don't even see other managers or agents on the grid. It just sets Hamilton up and more importantly sets him apart a little from the grid, seems almost a little defensive, like a little gang, not good, which can obviously be construed as a weakness, and is, here.
Anthony Hamilotn should definetely step back now, hire someone if he has to and continue working/establishing his other drivers, Di Resta?
The one thing I would say is that if Lewis wanted to get his dad of the grid it is reasonable to assume that he could have dropped a few hints by now, so fair play to him, he is obviously comfortable with the situation and I suppose there is an element of being secure and not being bothered about what people think about that, possibly?
I don't like to see it though, what's the purpose?
LOL did you not see the shots of Webber's dad several times in the last race? It actually became an inside joke with him just cracking up when the camera was on him.
Not to mention Jenson's girlfriend. His GIRLFRIEND FFS. Not even related by blood. Each of those two got more air time than Hamilton the senior.
Buttoneer
May 18 2009, 09:09
Also worth adding that Massa's Father is on the screen every time Ferrari screws up, so that's a lot of airtime he's getting right now too.
ForeverF1
May 18 2009, 09:16
Does it really really matter who the camera cuts to?
Buttoneer
May 18 2009, 09:40
Not one little teensy weensy bit, no.
Gareth
May 18 2009, 09:42
Of course it matters. And the person whose fault it is that I have to see someone I don't want to on my TV screen is clearly the driver who has invited that person and not the producer who chooses which shots they want to see nor the public who are interested in those shots.
Quite clearly these drivers should not invite their friends, relatives, other halves, etc for fear that I might have to see 5 seconds of them on my television. Any dirver that does invite people that they care about to the circuit is a selfish prick.
Completely off-topic but can I just let you know that Suzy on James Allen's blog is
not me!
QUOTE (Suzy @ May 18 2009, 11:50)

Completely off-topic but can I just let you know that Suzy on James Allen's blog is
not me!

Prove it!
Gareth
May 18 2009, 10:03
QUOTE (as65p @ May 18 2009, 11:01)

Prove it!

We need a transcript!
Buttoneer
May 18 2009, 10:37
The Suzy on the blog clearly had an inferior strategy to the one on this board.
QUOTE (Buttoneer @ May 18 2009, 12:37)

The Suzy on the blog clearly had an inferior strategy to the one on this board.
Yep, "straightforward" gets you nowhere here on the board.
We're such a sophisticated bunch, aren't we?
potmotr
May 19 2009, 13:25
Rumour suggests Our Lew, 24, will become engaged to his sweetheart Nicole, soon to turn 31.
She is currently in New Zealand, with some chap called Seeby Woodhouse.
http://blogs.nzherald.co.nz/blog/spy-rache...e/?c_id=1501119
dabrasco
May 19 2009, 20:39
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/showb...icle2436742.eceQUOTE
She added: “He can sing quite well. He knows a lot of my songs from the group and, in a worrying way, quite a few of the routines.
“I would love him to appear in one of our videos, but I am not sure how I would feel about the other Dolls all over him.
“I think he would quite like it.”
smh...so that is what he spends his free time doing lol
ensign14
May 19 2009, 20:57
I preferred his other girlfriend. She was gorge.
dabrasco
May 19 2009, 22:34
some video I stumbled upon..his race highlights Monza 08
http://www.dailymotion.com/visited-week/se...ts-magistr_autothats one of his underrated drives, he was massive in that race and could have been on podium if not for a mistake with the pitstop strategy and rain prediction.
He started from 16th
potmotr
May 19 2009, 23:09
QUOTE (dabrasco @ May 19 2009, 23:34)

http://www.dailymotion.com/visited-week/se...ts-magistr_autothats one of his underrated drives, he was massive in that race and could have been on podium if not for a mistake with the pitstop strategy and rain prediction.
He started from 16th
I'm a massive Hamilton fan and I was at Monza that day... but that wasn't one of Lewis's best drives because he was so freaking dirty. He was over aggressive and ran Fisichella, Glock then Kubica off the road when overtaking. Totally not needed. To my mind Lewis's most hot-headed drive of 2008.
Anomnader
May 19 2009, 23:23
QUOTE (potmotr @ May 20 2009, 00:09)

I'm a massive Hamilton fan and I was at Monza that day... but that wasn't one of Lewis's best drives because he was so freaking dirty. He was over aggressive and ran Fisichella, Glock then Kubica off the road when overtaking. Totally not needed. To my mind Lewis's most hot-headed drive of 2008.
Its weird how people keep mentioning how Hamilton was dirty at Monzo, we hear it time and time, but the strange thing is not a single word has being uttered about Webber or Piquet at last weeks Spanish GP, if dirty driving is going to be criticized at least let us be consistant.
undersquare
May 19 2009, 23:27
QUOTE (potmotr @ May 20 2009, 00:09)

I'm a massive Hamilton fan and I was at Monza that day... but that wasn't one of Lewis's best drives because he was so freaking dirty. He was over aggressive and ran Fisichella, Glock then Kubica off the road when overtaking. Totally not needed. To my mind Lewis's most hot-headed drive of 2008.
I don't remember anything with Fisi and Kubica. I remember him moving Webber over in the braking area, pulling back in too soon in front of Alonso and putting Glock on the grass. It was a pretty aggressive drive, pity they weren't brave enough to go for inters first time, lost their nerve a bit after the Q inters cockup / weighbridge call I suppose, otherwise who knows where he would have finished.
Actually I do remember a pass on Kubi, but clean, very good and clean but made Kubi look a bit of a hapless victim. He was in a bit of a mood
dabrasco
May 20 2009, 08:55
IMO the only questionable pass was Glock, the rest was fair aggressive driving. In context, having to make so many overtaking manouvres in the rain under the pressure of fighting for the WDC meant he had to give no quarters.
The other questionable move was blocking Webber from passing...
Overall, I feel that was the main drive that won him the championship. He was so aggressive, always breaking late...and as soon as he crept up behind any car, he was making a move.
If he had wasted any laps following a slower driver around, you can say he wouldn't have gotten that point that won him the championship.
ex Rhodie racer
May 20 2009, 09:32
From time to time I pop into the Motogpnews site, which reports on the GP´s in a light hearted and very funny manner.
I almost wet myself when I read the opening paragraph of the recent French GP report. Seems Hami is getting a reputation outside F1 of being a whinger.
Copied and pasted from MGPnews.
As stated earlier, it always rains in France. It's more predictable that Lewis Hamilton claiming again that, 'he's doesn't enjoy F1 anymore', now that he's losing and in a rubbish car. The French, in general though, deserve the rain.
undersquare
May 20 2009, 09:39
QUOTE (Anomnader @ May 20 2009, 00:23)

Its weird how people keep mentioning how Hamilton was dirty at Monzo, we hear it time and time, but the strange thing is not a single word has being uttered about Webber or Piquet at last weeks Spanish GP, if dirty driving is going to be criticized at least let us be consistant.
I agree about PK I thought he should have had a penalty, a real weave right and left. Not quite sure about Webber.
Lewis' driving at Monza was exaggerated, as usual. I can't explain his tagging Alonso, he could easily have given himself a puncture, and he admitted being a bit ruthless with Webber (breaking the agreement not to move in the braking area to move him off the dry line).
With Glock well Hamilton just took the normal racing line which goes to the edge of the track and Glock was nowhere near fully alongside, plus Lewis' mirrors would have been filthy, so it was a joint effort I felt, sometimes Glock would have been given room and sometimes not. Not a good place for Tim to put his car really, normally they don't expect to be able to go round the outside unless they are actually ahead going in and (so) fully level at the apex (see FA/NR at Barca). Not sure if the positions had been reversed what Tim would have done, but I don't think Lewis would have put his car in that position to start with.
Anomnader
May 20 2009, 09:39
QUOTE (ex Rhodie racer @ May 20 2009, 10:32)

From time to time I pop into the Motogpnews site, which reports on the GP´s in a light hearted and very funny manner.
I almost wet myself when I read the opening paragraph of the recent French GP report. Seems Hami is getting a reputation outside F1 of being a whinger.
Copied and pasted from MGPnews.
As stated earlier, it always rains in France. It's more predictable that Lewis Hamilton claiming again that, 'he's doesn't enjoy F1 anymore', now that he's losing and in a rubbish car. The French, in general though, deserve the rain. 
well got to find something to bash him on.
a few races ago Button moaned about Brawn not being fast enough at a track, there was no outbreak of stop moaning button, it be interesting why everything he does is put under a spotlight and taken apart more then any other driver.
Gareth
May 20 2009, 09:48
QUOTE (dabrasco @ May 19 2009, 23:34)

some video I stumbled upon..his race highlights Monza 08
http://www.dailymotion.com/visited-week/se...ts-magistr_autothats one of his underrated drives, he was massive in that race and could have been on podium if not for a mistake with the pitstop strategy and rain prediction.
He started from 16th
Thanks for that, really enjoyed re-watching.
On the subject of Hamilton's overtaking, I think he's a very fair overtaker. Rather than aggressive, I consider him decisive. If he's overtaken someone, he lets them know it so they don't have chance to come back at him or even think they can. I think it's by being decisive in that manner (rather than pussyfooting around, leaving the other driver thinking he can keep his nose in, and then closing the door) that leads to him having so few contacts when overtaking. In addition, I think he's a good judge of when he can't make the move and pulling out of it. See for example Spa vs Kimi last season (ignoring the off track controversy): rather than keeping his nose in the inside of the corner and colliding with Kimi (as I think many drivers would) he accepted he wasn't far enough alongside to claim the apex and backed out of it .
Anomnader
May 20 2009, 09:55
seems very similar in MS in that regard who built up a such a reputation that cars used to practically jump out of the way, it was only a few front running drivers who would actually bother to put up resistance.
dabrasco
May 20 2009, 09:58
QUOTE (Anomnader @ May 20 2009, 09:55)

seems very similar in MS in that regard who built up a such a reputation that cars used to practically jump out of the way, it was only a few front running drivers who would actually bother to put up resistance.
if u notice in the video, later in the race, the Toyota guys told Trulli not to bother even defending
ex Rhodie racer
May 22 2009, 09:06
I was deliriously happy to hear that Lewis had "grown, developed and is moving on" after his torrid last few weeks. I´ve been a wreck worrying about him, but thankfully, in a rare interview he opened his heart and soul to the media, which as we all know, is so unlike him, putting us all at ease once more.
Thank you Lewis. I will sleep easy tonight.
RoutariEnjinu
May 22 2009, 09:27
This season will be nothing but good for him. I think he needs a shock to the system, in more ways than one, to make him appreciate consistancy and perfection, rather than patchy flashes of genius. It will also be a lesson in how to deal, or more specifically, how not to deal with the media, and take more control of decisions.
It's not like McLaren aren't going to win races or be dominant anymore.
QUOTE (ex Rhodie racer @ May 22 2009, 10:06)

I was deliriously happy to hear that Lewis had "grown, developed and is moving on" after his torrid last few weeks. I´ve been a wreck worrying about him, but thankfully, in a rare interview he opened his heart and soul to the media, which as we all know, is so unlike him, putting us all at ease once more.
Thank you Lewis. I will sleep easy tonight.

You need help.
undersquare
May 22 2009, 09:43
QUOTE (ex Rhodie racer @ May 22 2009, 10:06)

I was deliriously happy to hear that Lewis had "grown, developed and is moving on" after his torrid last few weeks. I´ve been a wreck worrying about him, but thankfully, in a rare interview he opened his heart and soul to the media, which as we all know, is so unlike him, putting us all at ease once more.
Thank you Lewis. I will sleep easy tonight.

I daresay most old-fashioned white southern Africans who grew up with Separate Development being normal, and are even on record on this BB as being against interracial marriage, would think he should be in a non-white series of his own. Well bad luck, the world has moved on from there
Buttoneer
May 22 2009, 09:47
Interestingly, of all the 'this has made me stronger' statements we have had from Lewis I believe this one more than the others. Watching him wring the neck of the car during practice yesterday was an absolute pleasure, and the TV director was smart enough to see this too and gave us plenty of opportunities to watch him getting lary in the most amazing way.
He became World Champion last year, but I think we can definitely see the World Championship material this year. He's thrilling to watch.
QUOTE (ex Rhodie racer @ May 22 2009, 11:06)

I was deliriously happy to hear that Lewis had "grown, developed and is moving on" after his torrid last few weeks. I´ve been a wreck worrying about him, but thankfully, in a rare interview he opened his heart and soul to the media, which as we all know, is so unlike him, putting us all at ease once more.
Thank you Lewis. I will sleep easy tonight.

LOL
When I saw that Hammy interview all I could think was NOT AGAIN.
All the "this has made me stronger" and "I'm only human" BS is becoming tiresome, shut-up and drive dude.
The Ragged Edge
May 22 2009, 10:07
QUOTE (dabrasco @ May 20 2009, 10:58)

if u notice in the video, later in the race, the Toyota guys told Trulli not to bother even defending


If I was Trulli I would have ignored them and at least try to put up some kind of a fight.
QUOTE (Buttoneer @ May 22 2009, 10:47)

Interestingly, of all the 'this has made me stronger' statements we have had from Lewis I believe this one more than the others. Watching him wring the neck of the car during practice yesterday was an absolute pleasure, and the TV director was smart enough to see this too and gave us plenty of opportunities to watch him getting lary in the most amazing way.
He became World Champion last year, but I think we can definitely see the World Championship material this year. He's thrilling to watch.
I agree, he's magic behind the wheel. This year he's been a bit more respectful when overtaking other too. It's funny to think that it's only his 3rd year in the sport, he's still on a learning curve. I've not seen free practice yet, I may take a look tonight.
Quite a few people would be 'out of job' if Hamilton would quit F1. Some people are really wasting their energy here
If the boy can't do anything right, just focus your energy on something else would be my advice for you.
QUOTE (ex Rhodie racer @ May 22 2009, 10:06)

I was deliriously happy to hear that Lewis had "grown, developed and is moving on" after his torrid last few weeks. I´ve been a wreck worrying about him, but thankfully, in a rare interview he opened his heart and soul to the media, which as we all know, is so unlike him, putting us all at ease once more.
Thank you Lewis. I will sleep easy tonight.

Very well put.
Lewis is rapidly becoming the Kerry Katona* of the F1 world.
* For those blessed to have been spared her, think - combination of a media whore and walking shipwreck, giving endless "fascinating" updates on her mental and emotional state.
Buttoneer
May 22 2009, 11:36
Are you begining to lose all your respect for him? Again.
QUOTE (Enkei @ May 22 2009, 11:09)

Quite a few people would be 'out of job' if Hamilton would quit F1. Some people are really wasting their energy here
If the boy can't do anything right, just focus your energy on something else would be my advice for you.

Some of the 'insight' on display in this thread is pathetic.
RoutariEnjinu
May 22 2009, 12:19
What's the guy SUPPOSED to do in an interview.
"shut up and drive"
Do you HONESTLY think he wouldn't just want to do that? Do you think ANY driver wouldn't love to just do that?
The press are GOING to ask him about the recent events, and how he feels about it. What's he supposed to do?
You don't need to answer the above questions, because this is my point. There's nothing he CAN do, people on here love to hate him. That people here love to love him isn't an answer to that.
QUOTE (RoutariEnjinu @ May 22 2009, 13:19)

What's the guy SUPPOSED to do in an interview.
Avoid saying "these things are sent to test us".
As with one British politicians, in the saying their expenses scandal, "It's like the Salem witch trials", he just doesn't seem to get it.
Lewis is not a
victim of anything which isn't entirely of his own making.
This perpetuated idea that he he is somehow a victim, when it is he who committed the crime, sticks in the throat of those of us not quite so in blind awe of him. He is a fantastic driver, but less navel-gazing and self-indulgence, and a bit more humility (he needs to look it up - he uses the word and acts the opposite) would be very helpful to him right now.
maverick69
May 22 2009, 12:47
QUOTE (MWM @ May 22 2009, 12:12)

Lewis is rapidly becoming the Kerry Katona* of the F1 world.
* For those blessed to have been spared her, think - combination of a media whore and walking shipwreck, giving endless "fascinating" updates on her mental and emotional state.
Yeah. Whatever pal. That post just goes to show that your blind hate doesn't allow you to have any degree of rationality.
Media Whore? He's hardly spoken to the media in the past 3 months, and he trys very hard to keep his private life to himself. You certianly don't see him lording it up and down Monaco high street like a lot of the other drivers.
Walking Shipwreck? I assume you mean that every thing he touches turns to shit? All said and done he seems to be doing alright to me.
Fascinating emotional updates? The media asked him how he's feeling about the whole thing. What do you expect him to say? "Fine and dandy"? No doubt people like you would have jumped on his back calling him an arrogant non-repentant little bastard if he did.
Buttoneer
May 22 2009, 12:52
Has anyone read this?I think it's shockingly partisan. Doesn't he know F1 is an international sport and that he drivers for a part German team? How dare he single out England. Not even Britain.
QUOTE
"This country's passion and knowledge for football is unrivalled anywhere else in the world," said the McLaren driver. "This country lives for the sport - whether that's in the biggest stadiums in the country, on a freezing, wet Wednesday night in the middle of winter, at home in front of the TV, or even in the playground: we live and breathe football.
"It would be a fantastic honour for us to host the 2018 World Cup. It would create a huge wave of sporting passion that everyone in this country would love to be a part of. That's why I'm supporting the bid for England 2018."
"This country's passion and knowledge for football is unrivalled anywhere else in the world"!!?? WTF!? He's obviously never been to Brazil. The guy is full of jingoistic bs.
Or something.
maverick69
May 22 2009, 12:54
QUOTE (Buttoneer @ May 22 2009, 13:52)

Has anyone read this?I think it's shockingly partisan. Doesn't he know F1 is an international sport and that he drivers for a part German team? How dare he single out England. Not even Britain.
"This country's passion and knowledge for football is unrivalled anywhere else in the world"!!?? WTF!? He's obviously never been to Brazil. The guy is full of jingoistic bs.
Or something.
Yeah. What a cock.
Gareth
May 22 2009, 12:58
QUOTE (MWM @ May 22 2009, 13:42)

those of us not quite so in blind awe of him.
There are those who agree with you, and those who are in blind awe of Hamilton.
RoutariEnjinu
May 22 2009, 13:13
This is just it. You don't have to be in 'blind awe' of Hamilton to think you're being unreasonable and obsessive MWM.
This is called a strawman argument.
This is a type of argument employed when you haven't got a leg to stand on.
He's being told to shut up and drive, yet the guy is being asked specifically how it's changed him, admitting he did wrong, and then near enough apologizing to the press because for a while he DID shut up and drive.
The guy cannot win with folk like you MWM. You're just as 'blind' in your own counter-obsession.
Even extending to cheap shots against his friends and family.
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