Same here. In the Bahrain practice thread I just asked about the left hand column of driver's positions, it seems to have disappeared

Don't really know how they expect new people to follow it if they are not going to show the positions on the left (the one with the names like MSC, ALO, HAM etc) like they used to

It's not the BBC's fault but does anyone know why they have disappeared? Maybe FOM have something else lined up?

At a guess it'll probably just be kept for Qualifying sadly...

Yeah I imagine it will return in some form. Who wants to bet that the 1st place block will still be covered with the BBC widget?

I quite liked the new graphics, watching online, but I was hoping to see if Schumacher would stay as MSC or if, now that his surname only appears once in the entry list, he would be SCH. They may well have more graphics for qualifying, like people say, as there is more to stay on top of.

anybody know when the fp1 and fp2 are on freeview?

Yes. I have to say I found it a bit weird that they were so quick to tell me I am not allowed to photograph in there. I was photographing only something people walking in there would see any ways. I complied, but wondered what's the fuss... not a big deal to me though

i think you've missed it

I saw a picture of the track timing screen on twiter, and it had him as MSC, I was wondering the same thing.

Oh my goodness, listen to the Highlights of FP1 and FP2 on the BBC website and laugh at how bad the reporter talking about them is.

Well, yes. It is a bit ambiguous, though, like I have found many things with the English language to be. Consider this: what if there is a slightly longer pause between the words "Sir" and "Jack"?

Something like this:

Sir!

<pause>

Jack Brabham!

Is that not just calling for a Sir as in talking to a person. Then after that proceeding to say the full name of that person. There is a very fine line there as I see it.




My initial point about this is that perhaps the pit-lane reporter was just trying to be polite. I would forgive her that mistake.

Its quite normal - they will assume you are either reporters up to no good, or rivals spying. My sister works for a big supermarket here and they often send her into shops to take as many pics as you can before getting booted out

Oh come on a souvenir shop! And the Ferrari Store! There was some tie and a horse emblem that I was photographing... it's not like I worked for McLaren and was going to copy the design of the tie And I think McLaren are well capable of designing their own ties so what would Ferrari be so concerned of... in fact I think they want to protect the horse emblem primarily. They could put a sign up there saying no photographing of those certain objects so it wouldn't be such a surprise when they shoo you away.

Yeah I know the stores spy on each other, here in Finland too. But a small souvenir shop with books and mugs and flags and such for sale... hmm... well, maybe if they are afraid I would take the price information to a competitor. But I think if I was such a spy I wouldn't be photographing the prices. I would use something else like a hidden video camera and/or a voice recorder.

Sorry for the off-topic! I won't continue posting about this.

whats the smiley for?.i have already watched fp1 and fp2(cable).i was asking for a friend who has freeview only

* cross posting here, as it is relevant to thread *







Compare:

- http://img20.imageshack.us/img20/913/f1201...ehdfp1senna.jpg --> 16:9 graphics via Sky Sport in Italy
- http://img20.imageshack.us/img20/5683/2010...p1avisnapsh.jpg --> 4:3 safe graphics via BBC in UK

Virtually the same image (OK, slightly out), but different graphics.

So no one is losing out on anything, really. Although I suspect the rundown down the side will return in the '4:3 safe' zone tomorrow permanently for quali only.

It was live on both, as it usually is.

They'd be on at the same time. Since they're, you know, live.

Oh I was about to criticise the BBC for not putting FP1 and FP2 replays on..... However, they've gone one better, and put them on iplayer

(Thats better cos they've put a High quality option up, plus, you can have a browser crash and return to where you were)

http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b00rr...x_Practice_One/
http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b00rr...x_Practice_Two/

(Bad news, it'll only be up for a week )

QUOTE (Callisto @ Mar 12 2010, 16:31)
whats the smiley for?.i have already watched fp1 and fp2(cable).i was asking for a friend who has freeview only

It was live on both, as it usually is.
i know that.i was on about the re-runs

Re-runs are not on Freeview.

However, it is on the iPlayer for 7 days.

Thank you for explaining that. Hope you're right about Qualifying/Race.



Freeview haven't done practice replays since, ooh, beginning of 2009 I think.

No chance of it happening now that 302 is gone.

i am glad i dont have freeview then,its terrible

If only I had known this before waking up early today after a night out just to catch the practice.

It didn't help that I couldn't even watch it on the BBC website on the PS3 because, unlike last season, they seemed to have changed some things around, so the video is all messed up when trying to watch on the PS3...!

iPlayer works fine on it, though. Good to see FP on it for this season, I can't remember it being on it last season. Maybe just the highlights.

I like the new graphics though (It's an F1 thing though rather than BBC's thing)

It's on the iPlayer, and there's highlights on the BBC Sport website. Who doesn't have access to the Internet, a PVR or VCR, or a radio these days? And if you don't, you can't expect broadcasters to still make it possible to watch things at a more convenient time for you.

It wasn't terrible, until the HD lot kicked up a fuss, and the BBC thought it'd be a bright idea to make things worse for those with the worst services, and better for those with the better services! Logical thinking, as always.

i live in the uk,why are you telling me things i already know?.i have 100 cable channels,radio,broadband.i know plenty of ppl who dont have the internet.the internet costs money some ppl dont have much money(recession)

i tend to agree

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/motorsport...one/8564781.stm
http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/murraywalker/20...on_preview.html

EDIT, from EJ himself:

VCR

For those that haven't seen the new graphics yet, this is the one I was referring to on the previous page: http://twitpic.com/184ssl/full

In that format, it would make much more sense (and be easier to read) if the order was flipped vertically so that 1 was where 4 is and 5 was where 8 is etc. Although I'd much prefer they were just weren't staggered. (eg: http://twitpic.com/184vaj/full - of course, if this was the case there would also be the argument to then remove the slanting from the blocks as well)

Hey, I only upgraded from that yesterday!!!

I've got a Humax 9300T in time for the start of a classic season

Eesh, no way, that would just be confusing; but it's a matter of orientation I guess. If you're reading up to down (which is how I'm used to doing it), this is fine, but if you read left to right, I guess you may have a point (I believe that's how it's done in american sports, isn't it?)

Anyway, off topic, I like what you quoted in your post .

Hypocrisy ftl.

I still have mine, though I never ever used it, not even once, from the time I bought it!

Not so much because I had other solutions, rather because I was lazy. I've never recorded anything on TV in my entire life

I used to do so, but in recent years it's just seemed so much hassle that I never bothered. It's normally against my religion to replace stuff before it breaks, but the VCR was useless. The PVR is so easy, I've already set it to record the entire F1 season - it took 2 clicks!

They should have first position on top, but slope from left to right, so match the direction of reading. I suspect the right-to-left slope was done to match the sloping F1 logo.

TBH, I was suprised at the new graphics. I'd thought they'd keep the same ones for 2010, and was just imagining the new pairings displayed on their old graphics. But that's just me.

Can you explain to me why the BBC broadcasts in 4:3 and why there are no black borders on the screen, do we lose some of the picture from the top and bottom of the screen?

There is no legislation to stop you taking photographs in the UK, they cannot confiscate your camera or memory cards and they cannot make you delete photographs you've taken.

In certain places they are allowed to stop and search anyone with no reason (known as a section 44), this is anti terrorism legislation but is widely abused. When stopped under section 44 you are not obliged to tell them your name, address, reason for being in that place, where you are going etc - only if they suspect you of committing an offence do you have to divulge any details.

See http://photographernotaterrorist.org/ for more info.

Crafty, check this out -

http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2010/feb/21/p...i-terror-arrest

Perfectly polite, doing nothing wrong, yet he spent 8 hours in prison. It seems the police will always abuse discretionary powers.

The BBC analogue channels are still broadcast in 4:3, although it's 16:9 via freeview, satellite, cable or iplayer. Analogue switch-off isn't scheduled until Dec 2012. Until then they have to cater for the lowest common demoninator.

Not sure, but I guess F1 is one of the most important sport the BBC have left, BBC1 is the flagship station, so makes sense.
Not sure that a phone in would really fit into the Evans show ?

Was a fair bit of messing about this morning, Jake pretended to be ill, and DC started the chat with Moyles, Chris handed over for him to set the scene as Jake does and he clammed up, then Jakes voice pops up in the background, so Chris asks Jake a question, who is then meant to put it to DC, Jake however changes the question each time, at one point he asks DC how much sense Eddie will make this year, DC replies that EJ is top class and has his own opinions and last year reminded him how lucky he'd been never to drive for him

It was all impromptu and ad libbed, was quite funny.. dont really see that working on BBC2.

The picture isn't 4:3 - the graphics are. Probably best if I explain further:

BBC broadcast Formula 1 in widescreen.

They have an option of two 'sets' of graphics from Formula One Management. 4:3 safe graphics and the 16:9 graphics. As the images show, the graphics do come with slight differences.

BBC chose the 4:3 safe graphics. This does not mean the picture broadcasted in 4:3, it simply means that the graphics are 4:3 - no stretching, no anything.

Yep and its totally wrong. They were within their rights to arrest him, it all comes under the rather grey area of the officer suspecting something is up - they must have reasonable suspicion that something is wrong, but how can you define that? its very silly and vague. If pushed, in this case its ridiculous to think this guy was doing anything other than taking pictures of christmas lights, if pushed I think this could of caused trouble for the constabulary involved.

I know some togs have false details ready to give if asked, which is illegal.. not because they are doing anything wrong, but they object to an invasion of privacy and their rights.

Well, this is what happens when you vote Labour. Personal freedom goes out of the window in the interests of the Great State. /roebuck

Why does the countdown to qualifying timer not match the time of the live qualifying program??

Which timer are we looking at?

The one on the BBC F1 website is counting down to FP3.

And seeing as you ask:

Saturday
07:55 to 09:05 - BBC RED BUTTON
10:10 to 12:30 - BBC ONE
- qualifying starts at 11:00
18:30 to 19:00 - BBC NEWS CHANNEL

Sunday
11:10 to 14:15 - BBC ONE
- race starts at 12:00
14:15 to 15:15 - BBC RED BUTTON

One thing I hate is how there's no obvious link to the program times on the F1 section of their website.

Uh?

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/motorsport...one/default.stm

Scroll to bottom and in the center?

There's the problem, why is it at the bloody bottom??? Honestly I scrolled down more than half way and got to a comments section and assumed that was the end. Very bad layout.

Most people will be very interested in the qualifying and race start times so why not put them near the top! When you're tired like I am after a long day's work you dont want to have to hunt for stuff like this.

It's on the front page - it's clearly there. OK, its at the bottom, and yes if I was running the website I would almost certainly put it higher, but at least its there. Something's got to go at the bottom!

QUOTE (Callisto @ Mar 12 2010, 17:29)
VCR
the reason i laughed at vcr ,is because i dont know anybody that has a vcr anymore,and i dont know anywhere round where i live that sells vcr tapes either. i was not laughing at the poster using a vcr,it was me laughing at seeing a word i hadnt seen written in a long time
QUOTE (Callisto @ Mar 12 2010, 17:19)
some ppl dont have much money(recession)
you shoudnt have to to buy probably expensive poor quality tapes to watch fp in 2010,recession or no recession,i i pay my licence fee to watch the bbc,but have to pay a cable company £245 a year to get the iplayer?and sportsmultiscreen to watch the fps when i want.it shouid be available to everybody who pays their licence fee ,by law.the licence fee funds the bbc,thus funding the iplayer?