Because one is his friend and he doesn't get along with the other one, because his boss told him to, because he's pissed at the guy who got his seat at McLaren while he's now stuck with a crappy team.

Getting rid of blue flags would open the door to that kind of things and cheap shots, I can also imagine rich teams buying moving chicanes from poor ones, or alliances between engine provider and client team.

Umm, last race, before Vettel blew up?

In the past overtaking backmarkers was a measure of ability.

Fangio, Moss, (I don't know about Clark) Stewart, Senna were all awfully good with traffic. In fact, Prost was slower in traffic than Senna, and that was claimed as a measure of Senna's superiority.

So yes, abolish blue flags. Abolish safety cars, too: make the drivers know when they have to be slow. That will tell the men from the boys.

And more: make f1 cars more difficult to drive. Make life harder to drivers. The blue flag is another soft feature of the new politically correct f1.

I guess we have to disagree then.

For me, a race involves everyone who earned the right to start it, from start to finish. Not "let the big guns do their thing and screw the rest".

For more than twenty years since i started watching this was all dealt with internally between the drivers and rightly so. Their were always complaints, sure, but IMO it was indefinitely better than relying on the officials to sort it out.

Of course all kinds of evil plots are imaginable between teams, but how often does such really happen? And if, say, Ferrari developes the plan to engage Sauber to hold off a McLaren, do you think a potential next race grid penalty for the Sauber driver will stop them in their ways? Hardly, once a team is desperate enough to resort to such tactics that comparatively small penalty would make no difference at all.

You make fair points, but I think the safety car should stay. Red flags are the alternative and they are excessive for moderate incidents. Leaving cars to do their own thing isn't wise; when navigating an on-track accident scene, the safety car backs the pack up tightly and they all follow the same path through, meaning track workers and medical staff don't need to worry about what the next driver will do.

No one is stopping a lapped car from racing, but I can see no reason why they should be allowed to hold the front runners up if they are too slow to keep up.

Exactly right. Driving an F1 car should be the equivilent of riding this guy >

i don't want it to just be hard to drive, I want it to be scary to drive....just like he^ was. And if he didn't scare you, you're a liar....or a crazy Cowboy

guys, think about what you say sometimes. People moan in one thread about it being too hard for young drivers to come and impress, and you try and think of ideas to make it easier. And then in the next thread you want to make the cars even HARDER to drive, that doesn't make sense haha

lol you call that a fight for the lead? A true fight for the lead is like a boxing match with punches being thrown, driving wise, but in today's PC crap world, that won't happen anymore..

I like the idea. More of a show for the fans. Will result in more "true" overtakings for sure.

Overtaking for position is true overtaking, not passing a backmarker.

In that case why was Brundle instrumental in bringing in the rule about having to move over after three blue flags?

Keep the blue flags as an advisary flag to warn drivers of a closing faster car - just get rid of the three flag/move over rule and the computerised software/radio instructions to the flag marshals that resulted from its introduction.

Leave it up to the drivers to decide what to do and when to do it - if they want to block then let them - you always have the stewards sanction for persistant/blatent blocking.

Blue flags worked pretty well for the first 50 years of F1 World championship and for many years before that as well - and still continue to work for most other 'lower' forms of racing. The 'new' F1 rules for the last 10 years never seemed to work that well - resulting in the stupid situation of a lapped driver having to almost come to a halt to let what is intrinsically a much faster car get past.

Passing back markers should be part of a drivers ability and the better drivers used to be able to use it to their advantage whilst scrapping with a rival by intelligent use of the back marker to compromise the other driver.

I just remember Martin saying something to that effect during commentary a few years ago was all...I don't know why also..

It is sort of like that in American racing, not just Nascar. To me having experience with it as well I want backmarkers to move over or let themselfes be passed. Backmarkers for whatever reason are a lap down and have nothing to do with the fights or drivers that are a lap in front. I appreciate the sentiment that it makes better racing in a way, because if the guy in front is faster well let him prove it. But in practice and especially in F1 (with cars not being able to pass) it is just a silly and artificial way to create "excitement".

A sport should be a sport and a lot of ideas are ok to help out but it should never blatantly punish the succesfull drivers/teams.

It still gives the backmarker a chance to have a fight and defend, which would be fun to watch - and if the faster car behind does not get past others will catch up and we will see some fun action (;

And the one before that, IIRC. Didn't Button try (half-heartedly) to overtake Vettel in Abu Dhabi?

Edit: I correct myself, it was a fight for the 2nd position with Mark Webber.

I think the pass that got button was the best coz he got suckered into it! was by Kobayashi yea?

Why should the backmarkers have a chance to fight with someone who is actually several miles in front of them? All sounds like a WWF version of F1 that you want.

there on the same piece of track, and staying on the lead lap is important ?

In todays PC world, you're supposed to roll over and play like a eunuch.

Don't cause waves
- keep your opinions to yourself
- don't be competitve

They should not be allowed to possibly ruin a race just because they are slow.