The general consensus is that red bull will have a very strong (if not dominant) car at silverstone so im curious. Given what we have seen so far this season (and last) which part will fail in the redbull team or will they hold it together.

Will redbull stop their season long crusade to beat themselves at formula one?

They'll lead the race with Vettel, until Horner thinks Webber should win to not let him become suspicious of his broken chassis so they order Vettel to save fuel and Webber to max his revs and overtake, they crash and hand McLaren a 1-2.

That's a fairly depressing poll for the Red bull fans out there.

Strategy, or maybe a car failure. Red Bull have not been good at this so far.

Alas im just going on form if another team had the same situation id have it up with a different name.

Horner and his two drivers will be in the pits, explaining to the press how Button & Hamilton will soon be at each other's throats, when the race starts without them...

or complaining who needs a cheat suspension when he suddenly realises they need a car and drivers that work well together both on their own and as a team

Their fail is, giving Webber a car that Vettel said was crap

And if Vettel breaks his car again, an easy win for Lewis then

Is this assuming McLarens major upgrade wont be as beneficial as McLaren hope? Because from what Ive seen most of McLarens major upgrades seem to give them a good amount of speed. Id rather wait until Free Practice or Qualifying is over to give my opinion. At least then we know where McLaren stand with their major upgrade.

For real.

For me, it shows just how much many of the people on this board want them to fail, more than anything else.

Classy stuff.

For once they'll get it right with both cars.
And the track seems wide and fast enough for one of them to not get muscled down to 9th and then scrap over with a Lotus early in the race.

clearly the better idea would've been to use the chassis of valencia.
I totally agree with you.

you know, it was webbers fault, he destroyed his chassis.
he actually caused more crashs than vettel did, despite the turky incident.

that guy gets such a hype because he won 2 races in a row where vettel couldnt react.
But if it wasnt for vettels bad luck with car reliability, he would be miles away, infact, he would've won the first three races in a row.

webber is in great shape, and it looks like he is on par with vettel, but he is the one that crashes more cars, while vettel is the unlucky guy with car failures.

"Lavou tá novo".

Don't they have a spare at the factory?

The poll...which part of Red Bull will fail???

Okay, at least you wrote (if any) - but there is no option for that. lol.

they could try being more likeable!!!!!

Look at this year and last years history. The biggest problem about red bull's title hunt is frankly red bull. Is it not a valid question to ask, when a team has consistantly shown their biggest problem has been themselves?

All though after re-reading it ill admit that my wording wasnt the best (Borderline terrible lol).





I tried to cover the "if any" with the "They will have a good race". But again my wording is terrible. (I really shouldn't post when i come home exhausted i forget to re-read my post lol)

One of them (i feel Vettel) will can qualifying, ending up 6th on the Grid, eventually finishing 7th after a lackluster start and being unable to overtake a Force India.

The other will suffer an engine failure on lap 37, almost taking off another car in the process.

No body dislikes Red Bull Racing USA Inc. There's must be a rationale for the different in ratings of these nominally similar outfits, that each enter two race cars in motor racing events of high publicity standing.

Mears, Ekstrom, Sorensen - 100% positive press - even without the star driver in the car!

So what's the difference. What are Red Bull Racing England Inc doing wrong!?

I'm going to laugh, Very VERY hard if Red Bull goes 1-2.

Because then I can come onto this forum and post insults at McLaren Fans NON STOP for the next 2 weeks.

At least one car will brake down and the other won´t be able to match the speed of lewis Hamilton in the improved McLaren. Lewis will make another big step towards his second, long overdue and well deserved, title.

I have to agree.. This reeks of planet F1 .. I dont like Vettel but i would never consider ever putting up a poll like this .. inviting a bucketload of trouble.

You had this Epiphany while exhausted I gather?

They are racing against the biggest snobs in motor racing with apparently the fan base to match.

This thread is dumb, RB will be fine.

They've been quite reliable recently and I can't see them running into each other again.

The bias, Helmut, Sebi and his "I'm not the kind of guy to push all the blame onto the other guy" while doing the twirly finger, these things don't help their popularity. And the feeling of Dietrich with his ripped-off dodgy drink pulling their strings in the background.

But I think most likely anyone who wants to beat them is going to have to do it on pace.

Well, when I say 'most', I think maybe 60% likely...

sorry man I think its gonna be a red bull 1 - 2 and all the mac fans will be upset. btw why is everyone so pissed off at a few comments they made about macs drivers possibly having the same dramas happen to them? Lewis was playing a few mind games a few weeks ago dont forget. its all part of the game, but no cos they say it about mac its "STFU and drive your car and say nothing about us"

some ppl will look stupid if mac have their drivers come together and red bull get a 1 -2. very possible if u ask me.

Teams bosses shouldn't play the "I hope they implode and let us run away with both titles" wishful thinking game in the press. It's ridiculous. Not when you do have the best car and just need to stay clear of your own mistakes to win races and the titles.

/rant

If Alonso puts it on the second row of the grid, expect some very aggressive first lap manuvres. He won't jump the start lke China, but he'll take no prisoners as well.

So let me back up with some facts then? comparing the

2009 season red bull were screwed over by the DD at the start of the season. But for the entirety of the season were concidered by many to have atleast the 2nd fastest car (at many points being the fastest car between when brawn slowed down and mclaren caught up). Brawn had 2 retirements red bull had 7 retirements. Brawns Jenson Button finished in the points in every race that season aside from the 1 retirement. Rubens Barrichello finished in the points for every race but 1 retirement and 1 10th place finish. Redbull's Mark Webber finished outside of the points 7 times with 2 of them being retirements due to various issues ranging from car unreliability engine unreliability or driver unreliability. Sebastian Vettel finished outside the points 5 times with all 5 of them being retirements.

So in a season with 2 teams at the sharp end of the grid reliability issues driver issues and strategy issues and crashes caused the red bulls to loose the wdc and wcc against a team that started very strong but fell off for a large portion of the season.



That brings me to 2010

2010 season so far has been an incredible season for viewers. However Redbull have had the same amount of retirements as both McLaren and Ferrari combined.

Bahrain GP 1-6 start (vettel, webber)
Exhaust problem for Vettel caused him to loose a pole position and end up in 4th place.
Cant remember what happened to webber but he started 6th ended 8th.
4-8 finish

Australian GP 1-2 start
Strategy call could have been different (like alot of teams it must be said though)
Vettel retired due to a wheel issue.
Webber crashed into the back of hamilton which ruined webbers race for a 9th place finish. (Most pundits appeared to place fault on webber.)
Retired-9th finish

Malasya 3-1 start
Good race both drivers (especially vettel)
1-2 finish

China 1-2 start
Another strategy issue (for many teams again)
After the safety car vettel made a mistake. Ended up being passed by alonso and kubica.
Webber lost 6 places after the safety car.
6-8 finish

Spain 2-1 start
Vettel had a poor pit stop that put him behind hamilton (till hamiltons wheel went off) Also had to back off at the end of the race with a suspected break failure which let alonso pass him.
Webber had a good race sitting at the front
3-1 finish

Monaco 3-1 start
Good start and race for vettel
Good race for webber
(first signs that the issues with redbull were starting to get sorted out at a track they wernt meant to be strong at.)
2-1 finish

Turkey 3-1 start
Vettel and webber crash into eachother webber salvaging 3rd
Retirement - 3rd place finish

Canada 3-2 start
Vettel had a "problem" that he had to nurse for the latter stages of the race
Webbers tyre strategy didnt pay off ending up with hamilton and alonso passing him
5th - 4th finish

European 1-2 start
Vettel had a fairly straightforward race
Webber crashed with kovalinen which caused him to retire.
1st-retirement finish


So with only 2 problem free races this season and this isnt including various problems they had in practice/qualifying this season. Also loosing the championship last year partly because of problems of their own making. Is it not a fair to ask about wether they will have a problem for this race? and if they do what will it be?


Also redbull could go on to win this race easily they could end up winning every race from this point onwards and seal the title to get their first single or double championship win! But at this moment in time they have a worrying trend of atleast one of their drivers having a bad race almost every race.

Webbers brain is always most likely to fail if you ask me...

As opposed to someone called MadYarpen?

Yes,RB Fans will be eagerly awaiting what the team has in store for this W/end,traditional stuffing up of pit stops/strategy has become tiresome,Webbers Valencia off with a half pike will be hard to beat but i'm sure they will have something new for us at Silverstone.
I'm also sure Mark & his new best friend Vettle will adopt a "no you go first,no i insist you go first" routine that will endear them to their respective supporters.

Well it certainly appears that it is Red Bull's race to lose.
If the car is reliable, I would expect them to complete a 1-2.

I am not totally convinced that the car will be reliable, however.

Last year, I dont think they had much of a problem other than a massively dominant Brawn car for the first half of the season.

This year, they've definitely had their issues, but I think its fair to remind you that they're still Red Bull. They do not have the size, resources or history of Mclaren or Ferrari, and I think they've done a brilliant job to have acheived what they have, even if they haven't been faultless.

Its a valid question in a way, but I think its pandering to the 'We all hate Red Bull' fad going on nowadays.

Looks like I voted correctly with driver failure.

Poor stuff from Vettel in trying to squeeze Webber at the start. Coming off worse again for the second time as well. Really silly driving but given what happened with the wing poetic justice for Webber.