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#2401 Bjorn Kjer

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Posted 28 April 2011 - 11:22

Opel Kadet and MB1113 .

#2402 eldougo

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Posted 30 April 2011 - 09:47

...Opel Kadett

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Edited by eldougo, 30 April 2011 - 09:49.

#2403 oldclassiccar

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Posted 01 May 2011 - 17:19

There are a few neat photos of a Bristol Freighter, and a transporter, in this set on flickr...
flickr link

RJ

#2404 eldougo

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Posted 02 May 2011 - 12:07

I like this picture ,have we seen this before on this Thread.?????

http://www.flickr.co...in/photostream/

Edited by eldougo, 17 May 2011 - 08:45.

#2405 Bjorn Kjer

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Posted 16 May 2011 - 21:18

On Dalton Watson website is a preview of the coming book on transporters .

#2406 bradbury west

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Posted 16 May 2011 - 22:34

On Dalton Watson website is a preview of the coming book on transporters .

I am pleased to over-rule your modesty, Bjorn.
http://www.daltonwat...egory_pathway-0
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#2407 JeanDAMON

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Posted 18 May 2011 - 14:59

Well, I intended to send you a pic of the McLaren truck on the Charade paddock in 1970, but I failed to find how to do that ; can anybody help me to insert tha pic, please ? (if possible with not too complicated an english language for the poor frenchman I am ...

Thanks a lot

#2408 bradbury west

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Posted 18 May 2011 - 15:15

Try using Ray Bell's instructions here in post 5116;
http://forums.autosp...p;#entry5024419
otherwise try this one;
http://www.postimage.org/
We are all happy to help you
Roger Lund

#2409 JeanDAMON

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Posted 18 May 2011 - 15:48

Try using Ray Bell's instructions here in post 5116;
http://forums.autosp...p;#entry5024419
otherwise try this one;
http://www.postimage.org/
We are all happy to help you
Roger Lund

Thanks a lot Roger ; it's done.
But the pic is small and you have to click it to enlarge it !

In fact I like very much this pic : the ambiance of that period is very nicely showed.
And what a difference between that ans to-day's !

Jean DAMON

#2410 scags

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Posted 18 May 2011 - 18:50

very nice picture, thanks.

#2411 Welby

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Posted 20 May 2011 - 09:06

...Opel Kadett

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looks like the Australian Holden Gemini

http://autocade.net/...en..._Coupé.jpg

http://dgsmithphotog...i PF50.jpg.html

#2412 JeanDAMON

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Posted 20 May 2011 - 13:34

looks like the Australian Holden Gemini

http://autocade.net/...en..._Coupé.jpg

http://dgsmithphotog...i PF50.jpg.html

An other ambiance pic from Charade 1970 with the Matra transporter :

You always have to click on the pic to enlarge it.
What to do to have it large at the beginning ?
Thanks
Jean

#2413 arttidesco

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Posted 20 May 2011 - 20:16

Try copy and pasting the code to the left of Hotlink for Forums (1) Jean

Fabulous photos thanks for sharing :up:

#2414 EDWARD FITZGERALD

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Posted 20 May 2011 - 21:03

An other ambiance pic from Charade 1970 with the Matra transporter :

You always have to click on the pic to enlarge it.
What to do to have it large at the beginning ?
Thanks
Jean

Welcome Jean , Mr Jade Miniatures

#2415 JeanDAMON

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Posted 20 May 2011 - 21:33

Try copy and pasting the code to the left of Hotlink for Forums (1) Jean

Fabulous photos thanks for sharing

Thanks Artidesco : I'll try with an other one ...

Jean

#2416 cdrewett

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Posted 21 May 2011 - 08:55

The Ecurie Ecosse transporter will be at Shelsley Walsh June 4/5 to help the MAC celebrate 60 years of C-type and 50 years of E-type.
Chris

#2417 arttidesco

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Posted 23 May 2011 - 02:18

Colin Bennets CGA Engineering Scania, first spotted by Mr Giraffe which helped us locate Colin's premises on Saturday.

#2418 retriever

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Posted 24 May 2011 - 13:53

On Dalton Watson website is a preview of the coming book on transporters .

Hello Bjorn

Nice to see that the book will available by the end of the year, although the price appears to be somewhat on the high side, but no doubt copyright clearance for many of the historic images will not have come cheap. There also appears to be a typo error by Dalton Watson's setters on the page 29 lower caption - should that not be 'above'. I hope that is rectified before it goes to print.

Also nice to see your name there - an earlier promotion on the Dalton Watson site appeared to not have included your name. This was inexcusable considering all the work and research on a subject that you have spent so much time on. There can surely be no doubt that this book would not have happened without your valuable input.

Regards

Retriever

#2419 arttidesco

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Posted 25 May 2011 - 23:00

Not too sure who manufactured all these trucks most are either Kenworths or Freightliners I imagine, the Penske cab overs might be Peterbuilts, even Jackie Stewart commented on the turnout of the Penske trucks when he tested Rick Mears Indy winning PC 17 at 3m 32 secs on this clip.

#2420 thatguy0101

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Posted 25 May 2011 - 23:48

The Penske tractors are Freightliners. The Foyt, Newman/Haas, etc tractors are Kenworth T600s.

#2421 arttidesco

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Posted 26 May 2011 - 07:13

Thanks tg0101 :up:

#2422 Catalina Park

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Posted 26 May 2011 - 09:54

Freightliner is a division of Mercedes.

#2423 Ray Bell

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Posted 26 May 2011 - 11:30

As I understand it, they are a combination of Mercedes ideas with components as used by all the American makers...

And, of course, intended to compete on equal terms with the American trucks.

#2424 thatguy0101

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Posted 26 May 2011 - 18:21

The Penske Freightliners in the pic are the US Freightliner COEs that predated the D-B purchase in the early 80s. Presumably, they have GM Detroit Diesel engines and GM Allison transmissions. Around the time of this picture, Penske had taken control of the Detroit Diesel engine business in a joint venture with GM. GM and Penske sold the engine business to D-B in the mid 90s.

As you say, Ray, the current Freightliner models are branded products of D-B's global truck operations. They mostly use D-B components and designs, including Detroit Diesel branded engines, except for a few domestically sourced options required by buyer preference; esp Cummins engines. The recent tightening of US emission regs weeded out 'legacy' powertrain options that fleets and owner/operators wanted because of experience, existing workshop spares inventory, etc.

The long nose trucks are a quirk/intended effect of US federal and state regs that generally have separate maximums for trailer and overall length. The overall length allows a maximum trailer with a long wheelbase tractor, which drivers prefer.

I'll guess that the Kenworth T600s were picked by the team truckies. The Freightliner COEs probably were part of some Penske deal.

Edited by thatguy0101, 26 May 2011 - 19:16.

#2425 arttidesco

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Posted 26 May 2011 - 19:49

Thanks for the additional info Ray and tg0101 always wondered about the long nose quirk not to mention the positively archaic by European standards split screens.

#2426 Nigel Beresford

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Posted 27 May 2011 - 01:14

The Penske Freightliners in the pic are the US Freightliner COEs that predated the D-B purchase in the early 80s. Presumably, they have GM Detroit Diesel engines and GM Allison transmissions. Around the time of this picture, Penske had taken control of the Detroit Diesel engine business in a joint venture with GM. GM and Penske sold the engine business to D-B in the mid 90s.

As you say, Ray, the current Freightliner models are branded products of D-B's global truck operations. They mostly use D-B components and designs, including Detroit Diesel branded engines, except for a few domestically sourced options required by buyer preference; esp Cummins engines. The recent tightening of US emission regs weeded out 'legacy' powertrain options that fleets and owner/operators wanted because of experience, existing workshop spares inventory, etc.

The long nose trucks are a quirk/intended effect of US federal and state regs that generally have separate maximums for trailer and overall length. The overall length allows a maximum trailer with a long wheelbase tractor, which drivers prefer.

I'll guess that the Kenworth T600s were picked by the team truckies. The Freightliner COEs probably were part of some Penske deal.

Penske stopped using the "cab over" tractor units in the mid noughties, switching to "conventionals". As you say, the truckies prefer conventionals because the ride is more comfortable. Engines are DDC Series 60. Trailers are made by Featherlite.

Nigel

Edited by Nigel Beresford, 27 May 2011 - 01:20.

#2427 Jager

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Posted 16 June 2011 - 14:54

Haven't seen this picture of the BMW Procars on the transporter here before :

http://motoriginal.t...al-delivery-via

#2428 scags

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Posted 16 June 2011 - 20:26

good picture. thanks

#2429 arttidesco

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Posted 17 June 2011 - 01:46

Haven't seen this picture of the BMW Procars on the transporter here before :

http://motoriginal.t...al-delivery-via

Here is a picture of the back end of the same transporter :wave:

#2430 arttidesco

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Posted 17 June 2011 - 02:10

Apologies SOT. Went to a Drag meeting for the first time ever at Shakespeare County Raceway a couple of weeks ago and saw this Suzuki (125 ?) towing Boadicea.

#2431 Jager

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Posted 18 June 2011 - 06:17

Perhaps more a tow vehicle than a transporter, but nice period picture regardless.

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#2432 eldougo

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Posted 18 June 2011 - 10:52

Please delete the 2nd photo.Jager, thanks it,s not that hard to do.

#2433 Jager

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Posted 19 June 2011 - 23:03

Please delete the 2nd photo.Jager, thanks it,s not that hard to do.

Done - sorry about that.

Here's another one I stumbled across. Who would have thought Christine Keeler, the girl at the centre of the Profumo affair would have had an interest in racing transporters. Here she is at Le Mans in 1967, 5 years after the scandal. The picture is from a set from her personal collection made public last year :

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#2434 gm914

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Posted 21 June 2011 - 23:11

Perhaps more a tow vehicle than a transporter, but nice period picture regardless.

Gulp!

Any chance I could see that 2nd pic, Jager?
PM me with the URL please :up:

#2435 Jager

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Posted 22 June 2011 - 14:16

Gulp!

Any chance I could see that 2nd pic, Jager?
PM me with the URL please

GM914 - sorry to disappoint you, the 2nd picture was just a duplicate of the 1st that I accidentally posted twice.

#2436 gm914

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Posted 23 June 2011 - 05:24

GM914 - sorry to disappoint you, the 2nd picture was just a duplicate of the 1st that I accidentally posted twice.

Oh okay.
Great pic however. Thanks for sharing.
I am working on a few 1:43 models at the moment, mainly 60's-70's-80's Porsches and their Volkswagen Transporter/support crew counterparts. Any help with Type 1 and Type 2 Porsche Transporters out there?
Also, I just picked up a Schabak 1:43 Type 3 Transporter- does anyone know of any privateer/Works teams that used T3's for anything support vehicle wise?
Cheers. Great thread.

#2437 Bruno

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Posted 23 June 2011 - 06:32

Please delete the 2nd photo.Jager, thanks it,s not that hard to do.

Profumo affair yes! i'm remember.

in transporter:
n° 22: 412 P "0848" Guichet/ Muller and n° 25: 412 P "0844" Rodriguez/ Baghetti

#2438 eldougo

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Posted 23 June 2011 - 08:42

....Good one Bruno

#2439 EDWARD FITZGERALD

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Posted 23 June 2011 - 10:32

Done - sorry about that.

Here's another one I stumbled across. Who would have thought Christine Keeler, the girl at the centre of the Profumo affair would have had an interest in racing transporters. Here she is at Le Mans in 1967, 5 years after the scandal. The picture is from a set from her personal collection made public last year :

on the rhs DBA truck , Deutsch Bonnett Automobiles ?

#2440 MoMorris

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Posted 23 June 2011 - 19:27

This is from one of the city parades held to gain support for the Birmingham GP. If I remember correctly the Scorpion was one of the Santa Pod jet dragsters.

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#2441 arttidesco

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Posted 01 July 2011 - 23:58

Goodwood FoS on Thursday, saw no type badges on the truck does anyone recognise what type of Renault truck this is ?

#2442 Bjorn Kjer

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Posted 02 July 2011 - 07:06

Renault Magnum , 440,480 or 520 bhp , 6 cyl. 12,8 litre Volvo engine. The Magnum is having its last production run.

#2443 Alan Cox

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Posted 02 July 2011 - 08:52

Sold at Festival of Speed yesterday
http://www.bonhams.c.../19286/lot/465/

#2444 arttidesco

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Posted 02 July 2011 - 09:31

Thanks for the info on the Magnum Bjorn :up:

Here are a couple more from the FoS at Goodwood on Thursday

Iveco Cursor

Mercedes Actros

Mercedes 1528 - unloading a couple of Red Bull RB 3's (?)

Finally a MAN run by the Toyota Team no idea what model it is ?

Edited by arttidesco, 02 July 2011 - 09:32.

#2445 gm914

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Posted 03 July 2011 - 12:50

Sold at Festival of Speed yesterday
http://www.bonhams.c.../19286/lot/465/

Stunning!

#2446 retriever

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Posted 04 July 2011 - 11:31

[quote name='arttidesco' date='Jul 2 2011, 09:31' post='5142355']
Thanks for the info on the Magnum Bjorn :up:

Here are a couple more from the FoS at Goodwood on Thursday

Iveco Cursor

Thank you for posting this image. I was up at Heathrow terminal 4 on Saturday morning to collect my son who had flown in from Boston, Mass. On the way out to the M25 this fabulous unit passed in the other direction presumably heading for the cargo terminal. It really was absolutely stunning, especially as the outfit was totally unadorned apart from the subtle signage on the tractor.

An unexpected bonus just after was to join the anticlockwise M25 queue just as a red GTB4 was passing going in the same direction - possibly bound for Goodwood!

One question, arttidesco, these images appear a little on the soft side as do some of the Goodwood 2011 transporter images - any reason?

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Posted 04 July 2011 - 22:32

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#2448 fbarrett

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Posted 08 July 2011 - 17:39

1950 International tractor and trailer on www.bringatrailer.com:

http://bringatrailer...al-team-hauler/

Evidently been around California for years; up for auction now.

Frank

#2449 raceannouncer2003

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Posted 08 July 2011 - 18:22

1950 International tractor and trailer on www.bringatrailer.com:

http://bringatrailer...al-team-hauler/

Evidently been around California for years; up for auction now.

Frank

Apparently the related groups are still around:

http://guidovelocegroup.com/

http://barbersshopauto.com/

Vince H.

#2450 oldclassiccar

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Posted 19 July 2011 - 09:00

On Sunday I took the truck out for its first proper run under its own power, following on from an evening visit to a (very local) pub meet a couple of weeks ago. The immediate plan is to undertake a few short trips to bed everything in, and find time to complete the outstanding jobs.

The transport festival was just down the road from the PoP which was also taking place on the same day. The weather was pretty grim but it was a useful test run of approximately 12 miles nonetheless

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