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Giraffe
Can anyone tell me where Derek Bennett, Paul Hawkins, Denny Hulme Graham Hill and Jochen Rindt are buried?
Vitesse2
Graham Hill is buried in the former churchyard of St Botolph's, Shenleybury in Hertfordshire. I believe this is now part of the garden of a private house. It is also the last resting place of the architect Nicholas Hawksmoor.

Denny Hulme: Dudley Cemetery, Te Puke, NZ

Jochen Rindt: Grazer Zentralfriedhof, Styria, Steiermark, Austria
Vitesse2
Discussion elsewhere prompted me to look up the burial places of the Zborowskis - both Elliott and Louis are interred in the churchyard of St James, Burton Lazars, Leicestershire, along with Louis' elder brother Martin who died in infancy.
fuzzi
And the grave used to be maintained by local members of the Bentley Drivers Club
Paul Rochdale
Giraffe

Seeing as you are a new member here -

http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?p...csr&GSvcid=4821

Paul
Jerry Entin
Former Indy racer Johnnie Tolan is buried at Mt. Olivet Cemetery in Wheat Ridge, Colorado.
Paul Rochdale


Photo: David Butterworth

The grave of Ben Drinkwater at Bacup Cemetery, Lancashire, killed during the 1949 Junior TT race at the 13th Milestone. This bend was later named 'Drinkwater's bend' in his memory.
275 GTB-4
Tommy Kriszten rests in Cambridge UK.





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Paul Rochdale
http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?p...n&GRid=9665956&

This is the Find-a-Grave entry for Thomas Kristin (Tommy Krisztin). The original War Department letter to his widow mentions that he was buried in the US Military Cemetery in Brookwood, Surrey, plot N, row 10, grave 6, which is at odds with FaG. confused.gif

Here is a local newspaper account of the discovery of parts of the crashed plane, a Boeing B17 Flying Fortress "Sally B". It crashed whilst the Flight Engineer and not the pilot was at the controls of the plane. I wonder if that was Kristin?

http://archive.burnleycitizen.co.uk/1999/6/29/766664.html
B Squared

photo: B2 Design

Recognition to a man who was one of Dad's favorites. Bobby Marshman's death brought tears to the eyes of my Marine Corps father. I was six. I don't think there is a day that goes by, where I don't take a minute to remember Bobby. He had so many races to win & to give of himself to the sport. A true talent taken in his prime. Limerick Garden of Memories. Limerick, PA

Brian
B Squared
Thanks Paul - Co-rookie of the year with the esteemed Parnelli Jones, 1961. Started the Indianapolis 500 from the front row twice. Finished 5th in 1962; 7th in 1961; 3 laps from 7th in 1963 when the car failed. Walking away from the field in 1964, when he went low to lap a car. That began a chain of mechanical events that led to his final DNF at the Brickyard. 49 IndyCar races, 21 top tens, one victory.

Brian
fines
Does anybody know what the "G." in Bobby's name stood for? "George", like his father?
B Squared
Yes Michael, I can say that he was George Robert Marshman, without doubt. Thanks for your interest. His Dad owned & operated Sanatoga Speedway & Hatfield "High Speedway". I believe I have the names correct. I'm at work, can check the exact names once I'm home this evening. George started in the business as a driver also. A common theme of family involvement in the sport.

Brian
275 GTB-4
Originally posted by Paul Rochdale
http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?p...n&GRid=9665956&

This is the Find-a-Grave entry for Thomas Kristin (Tommy Krisztin). The original War Department letter to his widow mentions that he was buried in the US Military Cemetery in Brookwood, Surrey, plot N, row 10, grave 6, which is at odds with FaG. confused.gif

Here is a local newspaper account of the discovery of parts of the crashed plane, a Boeing B17 Flying Fortress "Sally B". It crashed whilst the Flight Engineer and not the pilot was at the controls of the plane. I wonder if that was Kristin?

http://archive.burnleycitizen.co.uk/1999/6/29/766664.html


Thank you Paul...however, it would be nice if someone from Cambridge wandered over to take a picture of Tommy's resting place up.gif
British GT Racer
Good evening everyone.

I've only just discovered this site having been a member of Find a Grave for several years.

I've been endeavouring to research the life and times of local driver John Taylor, a protege of Bob Gerrard and a capable amateur racer who started some five grand prix's only to perish in the 1966 German Grand Prix at the 'Ring. There is little or nothing written about the man, so I put a posting on the website of the village where he's buried in Leicestershire, and a couple of weeks ago his widow Irene contacted me by email, so I'm optimistic that I can find enough about the chap to record in some form of book in the future.

Incidentally, John raced a Ford GT40 in the 1966 Nurburgring 1000km only a few weeks before his fatal accident. He shared the drive with Peter Sutcliffe who owned the car at that time. Does anyone on this BB know if Peter Sutcliffe is still alive today?

By the way, Paul - outstanding research old boy! Please DO give up the day job!

Best regards
British GT Racer
Dear All

As an aside, does anyone know where Leo Villa was laid to rest? I know he came from Derby but all my enquiries have drawn a blank. For those not familiar with the name, Leo was the chief engineer of the Bluebird vehicles, both road and water, first to Sir Malcolm Campbell and latterly to Malcolm's son Donald Campbell who perished at Coniston Water in 1968.

Regards
Gary C
calling Mr.Holter, Mr. Steve Holter.
f1steveuk
" Malcolm's son Donald Campbell who perished at Coniston Water in 1968". 68!!!!??? 4th January 1967. I have pictures somewhere, I'll be back soon!
f1steveuk
As yet unsubstantiated (e.g I am not at home and can't check!)

Leo and his wife Emily (Emelia) known as Joan, are buried in Lower Kinswood, Surrey (just off the M25) in St Andrews Churchyard.

Leo lived in Derby on and off, his main home/s were in and around Lower Kingswood, Reigate, Crawley, as that's where Sir Malcolm and Donald Campbell based themselves, and Leo's homes were gifts from the Skipper. I think it was Leo's son, Leo, known as Tim who lived in Derby.
speedman13
Can anyone give me the locations of the following graves.
Jean Gaupillat.
G Eyston.
Kaye Don.
Dario Resta.
Olivier Gendebien.
Emillio Materassi.
Ludovico Scarfiotti.
Clemente Biondetti.
speedman13
Felice Nazzaro is buried in the cimitero Monumentale Torino. Section Ampliazione 7, Gruppo 30.
f1steveuk
I haven't been in touch with George Eyston's daughters for some years, but I am sure they will know. I was under the impression the Kaye Don (Donski) was returned to Poland?

Dario Resta may be in Weybridge with Parry Thomas.
Paul Rochdale
http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?p...=1&GSvcid=4821&

I can help you with Gendebien and Scarfiotti, but the others are a mystery to me especially Kaye Don and Dario Resta. How two such famous drivers can disappear like this is a puzzle.
Paul Rochdale
There is a brass plaque to Captain George Eyston in St.Mary's RC Church, East Hendred, Wantage, Oxfordshire, and the Eyston family lived in the village for six hundred years. I have emailed the church secretery to determine where his grave lies.

There is now a memorial page to Felice Nazzaro on Find-a-Grave.
ErinKondratieff
Originally posted by Paul Rochdale
Last week I received an email from Miranda Kelly, the daughter of Lance Macklin, who told me that after a cremation at Charing Crematorium, his ashes were interred in the grave of his father, Sir Noel Macklin, in All Saints Churchyard, Bisham, Marlow, Buckinghamshire. The headstone is in the form of a clenched fist with an index finger pointing upwards but the inscription has eroded and is now barely readable. Searching for their grandfather's grave proved very difficult for the family.


When I was in England recently (for my Mom's memorial golf tournament) I visited the churchyard at Bisham and shot these
photos of the Macklin family grave.

When Howden was doing research for the article he wrote about Lance Macklin (published in the July 2008 issue of MotorSport)
Miranda told him where the grave was. Bisham is very near Howden's house, so he took me there to show me the grave.

Apparently, Lance, his father Sir Noel, Sir Noel's brother, and their father are all buried there. Note the hand with the finger
pointing upwards (to the stars?) It's an unusual symbol - does anyone have any ideas on its meaning?

Jerry Entin
Erin : I believe it means going to Heaven.

Hand with Finger Pointing - Gone Home, Look to God, Direction. The pointing finger represents direction, whether physical, spiritual or psychological.
Paul Rochdale
Erin

Thank you for taking the trouble to post those pictures. I have added them to Lance Macklin's memorial page and if you click on the images, you are credited with them.

http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?p...r&GRid=15931814

Paul
Paul Rochdale


Photo: Peter Yonge

The grave of Ernst von Delius in the Waldfreidhof Huttenweg, Berlin, killed as the result of a crash in the 1937 German GP.
Paul Rochdale




Photos: Peter Yonge

The grave of Alfonso de Portago in the Cimetiere Communal d'Arcanques near Biarritz, France. He was killed during the 1957 Mille Miglia.
Doug Nye
Originally posted by Paul Rochdale


Photo: Paul Narramore

The grave of John Heath in St.Peter's Churchyard, Hersham, Surrey, who died as the result of a crash in his HWM during the 1956 Mille Miglia.


Pilot brother James was killed not in an aircraft but instead, I believe, when he was riding a motor-cycle back to base at (or near) what is now Heathrow Airport in thick fog, and he ran into a car which - again if I recall correctly - was stationary.

DCN
ErinKondratieff
As well as visiting the Lance Macklin grave when I was in England last month, I also went to the Farnham cemetery where Mike Hawthorn is buried. Howden and I had lunch with Joy and Michael MacDowel (the former Cooper 'works' driver) and Martin & Linda Colvill. We spent a lovely afternoon and after discussing some of Michael's exploits racing against Mike Hawthorn, we realised that we were quite close to Farnham, where MH is buried. Howden had always wanted to make the pilgrimage there (since he was a teenager) so we decided to go. On the way there we called Doug Nye and he very kindly offered to meet us at the cemetery to show us the grave. Without him we wouldn't have found it because it was becoming quite dark and it's a big cemetery! It was a very emotional visit. We returned home via the Hogs Back and drove down the Guildford bypass where Mike had his accident. A very sobering and poignant day. Here are some of the pictures I took...
Paul Rochdale
Erin, It's nice to see the grave is so well kept these days. It's been a few years since I also visited there and was told that the grave had fallen into disrepair but that the TVR dealership at the old TT Garage (Hawthorns) took it upon themselves to care for it. Presumably the dealership now sells some other make of car? Had you visited there, they had a glass cabinet filled with Mike Hawthorn memorablia, including the front page of a national newspaper anouncing his death. The front page also gave a very detailed plan of the accident and how it happened.

PS Did you notice his father's grave (Leslie Hawthorn) a few yards away to the left? You say it was dusk and would have been difficult to locate the grave. During daylight, I found it easily. Entering the main gate on my motorbike, I saw it straightaway on the far right, up against the boundary hedge. It's brilliant white and looks brand new.
ErinKondratieff
Originally posted by Paul Rochdale
Did you notice his father's grave (Leslie Hawthorn) a few yards away to the left? You say it was dusk and would have been difficult to locate the grave. During daylight, I found it easily. Entering the main gate on my motorbike, I saw it straightaway on the far right, up against the boundary hedge. It's brilliant white and looks brand new.

Yes, Doug was kind enough to show us Leslie's grave as well! Here is a picture of it - it's a little hard to read as it was quite dark and I had to use a flash on it...
speedman13
Is there anyone out there who knows the locations of the following drivers resting places.
Albert Clement.
Guy Bouriat.
Gerard de Courcelles.
Jean Gaupillat.
Emile Levassor.
louis Trinignant.
Louis Renault.
Paul Rochdale
Discovering funeral details of those who died recently (Chuck Deigh, Graffenreid) has been difficult, so for those between-War drivers it'll be downright impossible. frown.gif
Vitesse2
Not a driver, but an important figure in 1930s racing car design - Tom Murray Jamieson, associated with the ERA and Austin teams, killed in Joseph Paul's fiery crash at Brooklands in 1938. Interred at Great Northern Cemetery, Brunswick Park Rd, New Southgate (source: The Times, May 14th 1938 p14).
Gregor Marshall
I visited this on Tuesday as haven;t been for a few years. Apologies for the quality, I only had my mobile with me. It is very sad that where it is is very neglected and several headstones around it are in a very bad way but Graham's is one of the better ones there.

speedman13
I visited Graham Hill's grave a few weeks ago and found it to be unreadable, I asked the owner of the house for permissin to clean it, hence the now readable state.
The same day I visited St Mary's churchyard in Hendon to look for Bob Anderson's grave, I had looked for his grave on a previous occassion but was unable to find it. large parts of the churchyard are totally overgrown and part was sold off a few years ago. With the help of the archive centre in Mill Hill who allowed me to trawl through the cemetery records I pinpointed the spot where the grave was located. I returned to the churchyard and eventually found the grave completely covered with growth. I removed the growth and with the help of a church member cleaned the grave which can now be read.
kayemod
Originally posted by speedman13
I visited Graham Hill's grave a few weeks ago and found it to be unreadable, I asked the owner of the house for permissin to clean it, hence the now readable state.
The same day I visited St Mary's churchyard in Hendon to look for Bob Anderson's grave, I had looked for his grave on a previous occassion but was unable to find it. large parts of the churchyard are totally overgrown and part was sold off a few years ago. With the help of the archive centre in Mill Hill who allowed me to trawl through the cemetery records I pinpointed the spot where the grave was located. I returned to the churchyard and eventually found the grave completely covered with growth. I removed the growth and with the help of a church member cleaned the grave which can now be read.


Good man!
Paul Rochdale
A while ago I was in touch with Bob Anderson's son who lives in France - Bob's wife was French - and he mentioned that the grave was close to a public footpath and the grave and churchyard was in a deplorable state with litter and grafitti.

Will you be placing a photo on here, Speedman13?
Gregor Marshall
Originally posted by speedman13
I visited Graham Hill's grave a few weeks ago and found it to be unreadable, I asked the owner of the house for permissin to clean it, hence the now readable state.


Good work. I know my Mum goes once a year and gives it a tidy - such a shame it (and the others around it) have become like that.
Greatest
Can we somehow organize a group of enthusiasts, who by exchanging information can motivate each other to take care of these "forgotten" graves, more or less together? Is this a too difficult arraingement to do, what do you think? I also know I live in Finland (and right now I'm bloody lucky to even find myself in this snow storm and from under these snow banks), but I'm ready to do this while travelling abroad... smile.gif
kayemod
Originally posted by Gregor Marshall


Good work. I know my Mum goes once a year and gives it a tidy - such a shame it (and the others around it) have become like that.


Well done, but don't any of Graham's relatives & family ever visit? Apparently not.
fines
Whose business is it if they do or don't? Not everybody needs to wear his heart on his sleeves...
Gregor Marshall
It is a tricky one - I only get to my Dad's grave/resting place once or twice a year so I can't really comment. The thing I was referring to as a shame was the fact that the churchyard next door was lovely and smart, whereas the eight or so graves in someone's front garden are all over-grown. I wonder how the other relatives feel and also what rights they have to tresspass on someone's private property to pay their respects to their loved ones??
B Squared



photos: B2

Final resting place for hometown driver, B.J. (Bernard) Swanson. Catholic Cemetary, Section O #128 in Ft. Wayne, Indiana. BJ's headstone is in the foreground right. His grandparents to the immediate left.

I grew up within a few miles of this cemetary, and I live close to it now. I was heartbroken when B.J. was killed almost as soon as he came to the attention of the professional racing world. For some reason, I would always drive by this cemetary on Lake Avenue for the past 33 years thinking that I should take the time to stop in & pay my respects. Well, I finally did. I regret that I did not do so much sooner. The office had no information on him and his chosen profession of race car driver. I've made copies of articles and the like and gave them to the cemetary records department to put in their files. I copied the following, for it says more than I ever could. I hope that it is old enough that it is not deemed to be repetitious.

Brian

From Dave Ware - Nov.28, 2000 TNF Speeds ultimate price: the Toll

Here is what Gordon Kirby wrote about B. J. Swanson in 1975:

"It is exquisitely rare. It has happened only once or twice in a generation of American road racing. A driver comes from nowhere and is almost immediately running with the best. There have been others before, Dan Gurney, Mark Donohue. This time it was B. J. Swanson.

There was something special about Swanson. Something that triggered memories of a young Gurney or a young Donohue. It was partly his smoothness. On the track he was cool, precise, consistant. His driving had that stamp of inbred maturity drawn from a source more amorphus than experience.

Away from the track he was matter of fact. He seemed to accept the fact that he was capable of driving his Bay Racing Lola only a tick or two slower than Andretti or Redman, as if it was a perfectly natural occurance. Yet, he did so with a modesty that rang true. He would give a calm assessment of his performance that would virtually lull a listener into believing that there was nothing very special about a young driver, only months removed from club racing, emerging as a serious challenger to two of the fastest and most experienced driver/team combinations in motor racing.

July thirteenth at Watkins Glen was potential realized. Racing for the first time on that very fast and demanding New York circuit, Swanson qualified fourth, bested only by Andretti, Redman, and Jean-Pierre Jarier. In that, his third professional race, Swanson was faster than Al Unser, Jackie Oliver, David Hobbs, Graham McRae, and Warwick Brown. In the feature he was nipping at Unser's tail and cooling holding off the accomplished Jarier. He finished a spectacular third."

(I live two hours from Mid-Ohio. I can't imagine why I didn't go to the 1975 race.) On the first lap of the August 10, 1975 event his throttle jammed open on the first lap, and he crashed into the earthen embankment of the auto bridge. Kirby reports that he died three days later. He was twenty-six.

I saw Swanson in the garages at Watkins Glen that year. There was a fan who was taking a photo of Swanson with his arm around the fans' wife. "Kiss him, Bev," the guy said. Corny, but Swanson smiled and played the part gracefully. As would Gurney or Donohue.
Paul Rochdale
Brian

I have compiled this memorial page for BJ Swanson and have credited your image by clicking on it. If you have a head & shoulders pic to add, please do.

http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?p...&GRid=31725085&

Paul
B Squared
Paul - Thank you. I've got the cemetary gate/ entrance photo(s) still in my camera. I'll do my best to find a good picture of B.J. in the interim and add both. Thank you again.

I must say that I'm a bit motivated to get down to Indianapolis' Crown Point Cemetary when Spring returns. It seems as if there are alot of prominent racers & automotive industrialists buried there. It would be interesting to search them out. Let me know if I can help you with any in particular.

Brian
Paul Rochdale
http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?p...csr&GSvcid=4821

Brian

Here is my list of racing driver graves and I know there are quite a number at Indianapolis. I was actually there in 2006 but was unaware of the location of them. Please note that if you try to add pics on any FaG memorial which is listed as 'Famous', and they have a very strange system of defining that, the pic has to be sent to FaG for them to add it. Once they decide the memorial is a 'Famous' one, it then becomes blocked to the rest of us.

Anything you can add would be appreciated.

Paul
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