thiscocks more!

Well I meant I am just lazy by comparison! I wish I had the construction techniques of yourself! Much better to have it exact ideally but as I have little time and patience I tend to just copy from photos by eye or trace. I have never attempted airbrushing but I guess you need alot of patience for that.. I couldn't do without the undo key on the keboard!

Ill try and find some more, but I have little on the computer...

I didn't want to name names, but it was he. As far as the Alfa engine, I think it was probably the old story of knowing what has been done without fully understanding why...

This is turning into the Technical Forum!

Tony,

It is indeed more for the technical forum.
And I do dare to mention the name of patrick this time because it has been told on a number of occasions already, in print too. it is no news.
Having said this. I have a lot of admiratiuon and respect for pat Patrick Racing and his achievements in 1990 because they started virtually with nothing but their team of men and had to start up all over again when the Alfa deal came along.
That they got stuck with the March 90CA and the Alfa engine, more correct, the quailties of these components, that wasn't their fault.

Before the moderatosr interfere, this is the last what I will say about the (Off topic) subjest in this thread

Henri

I haven't done that much airbrushing - four engines, three (I think) gearboxes - but I'd still rather do the real thing than use software, it doesn't interest me. As for being patient, I am not, I am very impatient, but the analogy I always use is the Innuit (is Eskimo politically incorrect still?) waiting for hours by a hole in the ice waiting for a seal to stick his head up for air and get a harpoon in the ear'ole instead. It's no good saying "I'm thick, thick, thick of all thith thnow and ithe!" and stomping back to the igloo empty handed, you do what you have to do.

PS. Not all Innuit have a lisp, just that one.

Part of a cutaway of the Ferrari F2000 gearbox, coloured by blowing gouache onto cardboard, tedious and time-consuming, but ultimately quite satisfying.

Here is another brilliant work from our own Tony Matthews.

I would say that is the proverbial leapoard seal catch for the eskimo. Lovely lighting as usual. I like the oil(?) on the shaft in the bottom right. How do you do the carbon effect?

The carbon is paint brush, and/or ruling pen loaded with paint, bit of a mixture. It depends on scale, on car cutaways the weave is so small you can do it all with the pen, on larger-scale subjects where you have to show the carbon in more detail you have to choose different means. On the airbox of the Ilmor V10 I made a saw-toothed slot in some acetate and moved it step-by-step over the artwork spraying each line of weave, then adding the actual fibres with a brush. It helps to be slightly mad, if you're not you soon will be!

Carbon is obviously mainly black, but you get slight variations due to other fibres and, I think, different resins, and to me the Ferrari gearbox 'shroud' had a brownish tinge which I exaggerated slightly, and the damper cooling duct, for that is what it is, was pure carbon-black.

This detail is from the F2000 book, as the only file I have is 56MB, and I don't have the software to cope with it. It looks a bit flat to me, as all the areas that should be pure white have a tint.

Not very sharp, low res. scan. I'm not sure it was worth all the effort making the special mask, but it made sense at the time - there is probably a quicker, easier method that gives the same or better result. Ho hum, yer live 'n' learn.

It's Elbow Grease.

Yes that worked well I think. Amazing how totally different things that look the same at a glance (carbon) actually are upon inspection.(if you understood that..!? - I didn't). Not that I could think of a better way, but would you still do the air filter the same way?- hard to make them look unlike plastic.. I suppose other than putting 'ITG' or 'K&N' written in big letters on them it's tricky!

It's all about looking and seeing - two different actions - you can't see without looking, but you can look without seeing. That may be the most - or only - profound thing I have ever said!

This is the best I can do with the filter, too. In reality it is sharp and actually looks like black foam! The overall area was airbrushed to give some shape, then stippled with a brush using various shades of grey to give the texture. I don't think I could improve on it really, unless I worked a bit slower and added more stipple, but I always worked as fast as I could to get the damn things done and out of the way. It is unusual in that I gave the cut some colour and texture too, instead of leaving it white. It didn't look right somehow, so I filled it in.

Edited to say that I may have used a spatter tip on the old De Vilbiss, I know I bought one, I think that when I tried it I couldn't get the control I wanted, so reverted to the old sable hair.

I don't know how to post them so I mention them, perhaps someone else here has the books too and a scanner.

The book Lancia Racing by Nigel Trow has a cutaway in color of the Lancia Delta S4 on the back cover.

The book Lancia Stratos "World champion rally car, also by Trow has a cutaway drawing of the Stratos on the backcaver.



Henri

Don't know if you mean those:





And talking 'bout Lancia: here are two more...




Some Rallye car cutaways. I looked around, some are not exactly the best quality...

The Delta is the one I mentioned,

The Stratos on the Stratos book I mentioned is of a car in a similar position but then it is in color.

Henri

And anotherone: Lancia ECV.

Well, what can one say!

I must confess to being a sucker for these things that are pure mechanical engineering. I think they are in a different category from complete cars, which I find more artistic, imaginative, and "exciting," but the sheer skill and elegance of doing something like this is just awesome. My hat is off.

Lancia 037
Cutaway artist: Bruno Betti



Lancia Stratos
Cutaway artist: Bruno Betti



Lancia Stratos Gr4 1974
Cutaway artist: Jiro Yamada



Ibsen

Are you on power-boost Ibsen ?

Here is Bruno Betti's Fulvia HF



Now all I have to do is find pics of my 1st Asian Highway Rally Fulvia HF entry, which I still believe was the ex Pat Moss 67 Coupe des Dames Monte Carlo Rally car.

And as we are on Stratosses / Stratox / Strati
here is the Sandro Munari Monte 75 job by Bruno Betti TOL6 5176 from another angle.
How many times would a cutaway of the same car have been made by the same artist but from a different viewpoint ?

There is a hint of Red Bull about it, Marc! Well done Ibsen.

Many thanks DOHC. Don't tell anyone, but when you draw a car, as there is a great deal of empty space relative to mechanical bits, there is some freedom, the opportunity to move things slightly if they don't at first fit. Don't misunderstand me, I have always attempted to be completely accurate, but one is limited by lack of information or just human error, and this without incorporating 'artistic licence', which has it's place. But engines and gearboxes - that's different - every component is so closely related to its neighbours, there is very little room for error, an added pleasure as far as I am concerned. Yes, the complete cars are what grab you, but I found more satisfaction from illustrating 'solid' machinery, engines and gearboxes.

Two examples of airbrush painting of gearboxes - a bit messy, although the artwork itself is normally carefully masked, only the part being worked on exposed to the possibility of disaster.

I think it's the same than with Guinness: there is no plural. Or does anybody order Guinnesses or even worse: Guinnea?

Tony: thanks for that look behind the scenes.
But how do you know how a gearbox or engine looks inside? Did you get proper technical drawing to do the job?

...his are the proper technical drawings! You mean engineering drawings...

This - and there are more, about five rolls of film in total for the engine - and some works drawings. I got more or less what I wanted, eventually, from Ferrari, but Ilmor were always very helpful in that area, you have to build a trusting relationship when dealing with sensitive matters.

Wow, these gearbox cutaways are sick!! I used to work in a factory where I was in charge of all sorts of machines. Machines with spinning gears, shafts and whatnot; after particularly hard days I would then dream about ways to improve the bloody things. Did you ever get like that where you would dream up a particular perspective or way to show a piece?

I thought of nothing else for decades, DHF. Well, almost nothing else...

You saved my day !!, I only had beer !

I could to with a couple of Guinnea myself at the moment...

Seeing that I'd just wanna get meself an airbrush an havva go, jeez that is heavy painting Tony !!... puters ain't nuthing compared to that.
edit.... I don't want to start frothing and dribbling....but by Lord it is a sin you had to stop cutting away Tony.

A few posts ago I put up some renderings by the same artist of the same car, but from different viewpoints.
Here two renderings of the same car by different artists Bruno Betti and Technical Art


Walter Rohr 1976 World Rally Champ Kadett GT/E reg GG-DU 403

Probably why I prefer beer
1 beer, 2 beer, 3 beer, more beer is it ?

Want to share a Dutch joke, but don't know how it'll come over.

Dutch farmer meets Dutch farmer, whut didya hav fur breckfust
hemma neckx ! (accent loaded farmer speak)
was it tasty ?
huh?
it was like nuthing!

hemma neckx (accent loaded) in Dutch means...nothing at all.
hemma neckx... sounds like... accent loaded "ham and eggs"

more or less like the chinese fish and chips fella asking if ya want sorefingah with ya chips

OOOOw this is not my standup day.....

I don't know whether I've got ham 'n' eggs for breakfast or hemma neckx, Marc, but I live in hope. Which is not far from Hitchin...

The master at work!

Did you ever take those steps in the direction of painting landscapes Tony? I believe you mentioned this before.

Blood hell, I've only just got it! While your at it, yes please, I will have some...

I was wondering if/when somebody's bell would ring !

Technical Art Opel Ascona 400

Opel Ascona 400 Gr4 by Franco Rosso



Sorry, only B&W.

Ibsen

You can't help that, we'll blame Franco or QuattroRuote

Anyone know who this artist is, can't make much of his signature

Nearly as funny as sorefingah!



JIM BAMBER! He did a few some time ago, better known for his cartoons and interesting artwork.

No, not yet, I still want to, but I am very apprehensive about picking up a paintbrush again. It's not exactly 'writer's block', I know what I want to paint, I've always got my eyes open and my inner eye focused, but just can't take the big step to making marks on a large piece of white board. It might be fear of failure...

Amazing !! I know Bamber's cartoons, and am really surprised of his multi-talent.
Cartoonists are usually known for their quick scribbly work, catching one or two important features to
catch the personality/ character of what they are portraying.
The cutaway artist, sitting down to a labour of detail attention to capture exactly what is to be seen.
Or should I just think an artist is an artist is an.....

Did you ever do any cartooning Tony ?

Two takes on Jaguar's D type
Tony Matthews has already posted some in British Racing Green some while ago.

Tony Matthews

Why Yellow?
The article in Road&Track March 1976 starts off with these words. The writer goes on to explain that Ecurie Ecosse weren't the only team to field D types at Le Mans in 1955. Briggs Cunningham entered entered one painted in the U.S. racing colours..oops! .. colors. The cutaway car is XKD 573 in the Ecurie National Belge colours.
Theo Page

Only under duress, Marc, you have to develop a style, and I never bothered as it wasn't something I wanted to do a lot. I am a great admirer of the top cartoonists, though, but it is more the quirky humour, the lateral thinking that I enjoy most.

Bloody Hell, it looks as though it's been tie-dyed! Not a great piece of artwork, very early, and it took me years to learn how to paint yellow bodywork (thank you, Pennzoil!) as the base colour has to be right, then - what colour are the shadows? Also the yellow pigmented-gouaches have varying textures and are difficult to blend, I found, on the watercolour board. It is easier to airbrush, but mistakes are really difficult to deal with. Yellow - just say no!

But I did once have a commission, which I may have mentioned before, for TEN renderings of the Penske PC11, five Pennzoil and five Hertz, all yellow... ten 20"x30" boards, and lots of yellow gouache, most of which penetrated my mask and formed a long-term relationship with my mucus membrane.



Not particularly good, but better than the 'D' Type. I prefered the Pennzoil scheme, I liked the Pennzoil logo and the red trim more than the blue. Also there is a colour gradient across the painting due to poor lighting for the studio shot. The best painter of yellow cars, and my all-time favourite airbrush artist, is the late Gavin McLeod, who deserves a thread all to himself.

I have the same problem scanning red, I think it has more to do with scanning from magazine prints in high res

That PC11 is a beautiful rendering !!

Tony, them 'unfinished' gearbox drawings are amazing. In particular, the RALT one caught my attention. The detailing around the diff is top-notch. Well done. At this point of the thread, you could post a picture of the brown ring left by your coffee cup and we'd both save it and ask to see the working drawings!

Bamber also did cutaways of the sophisticated Celica GT-4 (1989-ish) and the Escort Cosworth. Pretty talented fella. I used to like the long-gone magazine Cars & Car Conversions because they gave plenty of ink to articles on WRC/Rallycross technology before Racecar Engineering gave Martin Sharp a proper forum.