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Duc-Man

Jul 23 2009, 13:12

Post #2000? ...sorry for not paying attention.

Tony Matthews

Jul 23 2009, 13:20

QUOTE (Duc-Man @ Jul 23 2009, 14:12)

Post #2000? ...sorry for not paying attention.

That's OK, just keep a look-out for #3000!

seasalt

Jul 23 2009, 15:41

BMW 507 Full size

macoran

Jul 23 2009, 18:49

QUOTE (Tony Matthews @ Jul 23 2009, 15:05)

Ha ha! I was waiting for Bonde to get post #2000, I don't know if anyone else was! Oh well, D-M, it's yours now, and interesting, thanks.

It could be a case of - 'You got a bunch of guys here about to turn blue...'!

blue....hmmmm....I even mailed AB to post, so he probably buggered off on holiday without telling us.
blue.... I am so p.....off I am actually purple
I mailed Ibsen and said we'd just exchange stuff waiting for AB to post the 2000th
AB 'll probably turn up tomorrow and say Hi chaps I didn't know nuthing.

Just realized, a poster could turn up and wonder what the blazes this AB stuff is about,
I'll blow a gut then !

let's continue

Not a cutaway, but to thank Tony and Vadim for the DN1

I collect and really appreciate Bührer's work.

BTW this wouldn't be the annotated work referred to a few posts ago.
I think not, because I have work of another artist whose name escapes me for the moment..........
worse even more is..........his work escapes me ...I can't find it.... and I am sure I have his Blower Bentley and his BRM V-16.

but... you chaps know me...I'll find it somewhere, somehow, some time... come wotsit or high water.

Tony Matthews

Jul 23 2009, 19:13

QUOTE (macoran @ Jul 23 2009, 19:49)

So it wasn't just me then! The weird thing is that on the Forum home-page the number of posts per thread is one behind - unless I've missed something. Ho hum.

Andre Acker

Jul 23 2009, 19:23

Not a cutaway, but to thank Tony and Vadim for the DN1

I collect and really appreciate Bührer's work.

BTW this wouldn't be the annotated work referred to a few posts ago.
I think not, because I have work of another artist whose name escapes me for the moment..........
worse even more is..........his work escapes me ...I can't find it.... and I am sure I have his Blower Bentley and his BRM V-16.

but... you chaps know me...I'll find it somewhere, somehow, some time... come wotsit or high water.
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Hi "macoran" !

Is it possible to have more (as much as you have !) Bührer's works ?

They are FANTASTIC !!!

Many thanks, best regards.
André Acker.

macoran

Jul 23 2009, 19:57

as much as you have........?!!

since they are not cutaways, I suppose they should be posted elsewhere

so

pm me your e-mail and I'll send you a slight overdose

macoran

Jul 23 2009, 20:01

QUOTE (Tony Matthews @ Jul 23 2009, 21:13)

So it wasn't just me then! The weird thing is that on the Forum home-page the number of posts per thread is one behind - unless I've missed something. Ho hum.

I think the home-page doesn't count the first post, or the last...or....euhm
let me think
why bother...
my Finkbrau is cold
Cheers

Me

I am a lucky man, my favourite postman will be by soon.

macoran

Jul 23 2009, 20:07

Tony I have just checked.
The Forum home=page seems to count the opening post as just that, and then registers and lists the number of replies.
So, AB opened the thread, 2009 responses make 2010 posts.
AB wouldn't have been the 2000th poster on the home page register anyway

As you can see I am busy attacking 3000>>

hmm, how many cutaways do I still have to scan ?

Fresh Finkbrau please, and my pills.

ibsenop

Jul 24 2009, 00:13

Maserati Tipo 61 Birdcage
Who is the artist? I can't read his signature.

Ibsen

Tony Matthews

Jul 24 2009, 07:59

QUOTE (ibsenop @ Jul 24 2009, 01:13)

Maserati Tipo 61 Birdcage
Who is the artist? I can't read his signature.

Ibsen

Makoto Ouchi, Ibsen, if you check Kevin Hulsey's web site the 'Birdcage' is M Ouchi's introductory illustration. I'll see if I can provide a link, just to show I am still capable of learning!

http://www.khulsey.com/masters_gallery_art...he_cutaway.html

Duc-Man

Jul 24 2009, 08:22

Mark, thanks for that DN1. I have two of Bührer's drawing in the Brooklands Book 'Can-Am Racing Cars 1966-1974'. It's the McLaren M8F and the Lola T260. Awesome work.
A place to post stuff like that: there is somewhere around here a thread about race/car paintings going on.

I found it! Historic F1, Rally & Sportscar drawings

IrishMariner

Jul 25 2009, 05:31

QUOTE (Sergio @ Jul 18 2009, 11:37)

I have just found this thread and am genuinely sitting here with a smile on my face.

As en ex-engine designer, my personal favourites were the beautiful paintings I recall seeing, especially in Car & Driver / Road & Track in the 1970s and 80s. These were paintings of the exteriors of engines and were characterised by the artist's scrawled pencil notes.

The closest match to this style that I have seen is the painting undertaken by Alan Crisp of a Bugatti engine. This painting is owned by Peter Agg (of Trojan McLaren fame) who at the time it was created (1976) owned several racing and road-going Bugattis. My posting skills are insufficient to display Alan Crisp's painting.

Can anyone name the artist(s) of my favoured paintings with the pencilled notes?

Whilst posting, may I add another couple of artists to the list of cutaway specialists? Lawrie Watts - most notable for his motorcycle engines - but there are many examples of his car cutaways in David Dixon's 2006 biography of Lawrie Watta called 'Watts My Line?' (Redline Books). Another cutaway artist called John Hancox is mentioned on the jacket.

Ray Battersby

I'd hazard a guess that it's the late Bob Freeman. You can view his work - and buy prints at his website: www.bobfreeman.co.uk

He did a fantastic annotated drawing of the Subaru WRC semi-automatic gearbox for 'Cars & Car Conversions' magazine that is one of the best I've ever seen. Full of notes pointing to such details as the banjo fittings of the hydraulic system

macoran

Jul 25 2009, 10:23

QUOTE (Duc-Man @ Jul 24 2009, 10:22)

Bührer also did the M8E, M20 and Porsche 917-10. The Porsche 917K and Ferrari 512S. All the 1972 F1s , all the 73 F1 monocoques/suspensions,
all the Ferrari 312 F1s, a series of 1973 F1s complete, the March Alfa 711, Honda RA302 F1
I also should have an Indy Eagle somewhere.

but I digress

This is an Eagle by Roy Huxley

Duc-Man

Jul 25 2009, 12:15

I guess you mean this M20:

I know it's 'off topic' but:

macoran

Jul 25 2009, 12:21

QUOTE (Duc-Man @ Jul 25 2009, 14:15)

I guess you mean this M20:

I know it's 'off topic' but:

That's the M20 yes.

Your '' off topic' made me smile ! good one

ibsenop

Jul 26 2009, 00:04

Lola T70 MkIII coupe by Hatton

Ibsen

Tony Matthews

Jul 26 2009, 00:55

QUOTE (ibsenop @ Jul 26 2009, 01:04)

Lola T70 MkIII coupe by Hatton

Ibsen

I was born too late! I wish I had had the chance to draw these wonderful Sports Racers!

Duc-Man

Jul 26 2009, 16:28

QUOTE (Tony Matthews @ Jul 26 2009, 01:55)

I was born too late! I wish I had had the chance to draw these wonderful Sports Racers!

I was born way too late. I wish I had the chance to see those cars racing back in the day.

alansart

Jul 26 2009, 18:40

QUOTE (Tony Matthews @ Jul 26 2009, 01:55)

I was born too late! I wish I had had the chance to draw these wonderful Sports Racers!

You still can

macoran

Jul 26 2009, 20:12

Found this cutaway in an ad which at the time appeared in Autosport (it says so on the centre spread Photo). The ad has faded over the years, this is the best my scanner could make of it.

The text:
To celebrate their Design Council award and Robin Herd’s Duke of Edinburgh’s Designer Prize
for their Indianapolis winning March 84C, March Engineering have commissioned a Limited
Edition fine art print of Tony Matthews superb cutaway drawing of the car.
All 500 31 x 21 inch prints are signed by the Artist and 47 (the number of 84C’s built) co-signed
By Robin Herd.

Raises a question in my wee brain....Have many prints have you signed in total through the years Tony ? Rough guesstimate ?

Tony Matthews

Jul 26 2009, 20:27

QUOTE (macoran @ Jul 26 2009, 21:12)

Raises a question in my wee brain....Have many prints have you signed in total through the years Tony ? Rough guesstimate ?

Five hundred as Tony Matthews and 47 as Robin Herd...

Tony Matthews

Jul 26 2009, 20:29

QUOTE (alansart @ Jul 26 2009, 19:40)

You still can

Be still, my beating heart...!

Tony Matthews

Jul 26 2009, 20:58

QUOTE (macoran @ Jul 26 2009, 21:12)

Raises a question in my wee brain....Have many prints have you signed in total through the years Tony ? Rough guesstimate ?

To give a more serious answer, Marc, probably less than 5,000 - I can't remember them all, a couple of '500's', and several '250's'. It really is a pain, especially the larger ones, you need a lot of space and preferably someone to help, as you can only handle a few at a time before having to stack them and take another few, so you are up and down from your chair, trying not to crease or smudge the prints, trying to remember how many you've signed, and - this sounds crazy - trying to remember how to spell your name! This may not aply to anyone else, but the tedium really gets to me, and at about the 400-mark I get a sort of seizure, and start to leave letters out! I firmly believe that each of my signatures in a sequence reduces the value of the print by 1%.

macoran

Jul 26 2009, 21:22

Pssssst Anders...
here's a Serge Bellu for you

ibsenop

Jul 27 2009, 00:11

Ferrari 125 1948 cutaway by Giulio Betti

Ibsen

Manel Bar�

Jul 27 2009, 08:42

QUOTE (ibsenop @ Jul 27 2009, 01:11)

Ferrari 125 1948 cutaway by Giulio Betti

Ibsen

Bravo! Muito Obrigado!

Henri Greuter

Jul 27 2009, 14:55

QUOTE (Manel Baró @ Jul 27 2009, 09:42)

Bravo! Muito Obrigado!

To Tony Mattews....

I send a PM to you because of one drawing I found in a Indy press kit I obtained and was very surprised to see it in there....

henri

macoran

Jul 27 2009, 20:11

QUOTE (Henri Greuter @ Jul 27 2009, 16:55)

one drawing I found in a Indy press kit I obtained and was very surprised to see it in there....
henri

Ahhhh henri has found.............
wait for it !!

macoran

Jul 27 2009, 20:13

QUOTE (macoran @ Jul 23 2009, 21:57)

pm me your e-mail and I'll send you a slight overdose

You should be doing a good sitting on the shot of mails I sent you Andre

ibsenop

Jul 28 2009, 01:44

Ferrari 500 F2 1952 by Bruno Betti

Ibsen

Tony Matthews

Jul 28 2009, 08:33

QUOTE (ibsenop @ Jul 28 2009, 02:44)

Ferrari 500 F2 1952 by Bruno Betti

Ibsen

I think that is the first B&W Bruno Betti illustration I have seen - very nice, I like the quality of line, and very different to Jim Allington's work.

Henri Greuter

Jul 28 2009, 10:43

QUOTE (macoran @ Jul 27 2009, 21:11)

Ahhhh henri has found.............
wait for it !!

Macoran,

I am sorry but there is nothing to post. But to satify your curiosity, it was about a drawing by Tony that he already posted in this thread. But then I found a version of it in a press kit and I realized instantly that there had to be a story behind it for it to appear ain a press kit.
And that was something I verified with Tony.
Nothing new for this thread, regrettably.

Better luck next time....

Henri

Option1

Jul 28 2009, 12:31

I do feel sorry for the blokes that had to drive these cars. It must have been awfully drafty for them.

On a more serious note, I'm simply astounded at the detail, the skill and the artistry of these fabulous works. As someone who has trouble drawing a recognizable stick figure, I am in awe.

Thank you for posting them.

Neil

Tony Matthews

Jul 28 2009, 13:51

Thanks Neil, on behalf of everyone! Your comment about stick-men made me wonder about the human form appearing in technical illustrations of competition cars - I've done two, and I must say, with initial reluctance. My first thought was that it spoilt the 'purity' of the cutaway, but then I regarded it as a challenge, cor!, let me at it! And of course, the customer is always right...

Having learned first hand that a surprising number of spectators have/had no idea that the driver's legs extend into the front of the tub it is important that it be shown, the illustrations I did for most clients were not for an elite readership, but for general use during a race season, so it is valid.

macoran

Jul 28 2009, 21:59

Bruno Betti again, this time a McLaren.....the MP4/5B

ibsenop

Jul 29 2009, 00:36

Bruno Betti again, but this time another Ferrari.....the 641/2 1990

Ibsen

Tony Matthews

Jul 29 2009, 08:03

QUOTE (ibsenop @ Jul 29 2009, 01:36)

Bruno Betti again, but this time another Ferrari.....the 641/2 1990

Ibsen

Both the Bettis managed to make the shiney bits of the cars they illustrated really sparkle. I had my moments, like the BRM V16 header tank, and various radiators or polished/chromed bits, but perhaps I see things slightly differently - I think it's more a case of me being a bit pedantic, and not wanting to exaggerate, whatever, that Ferrari is very shiney! I was about to say very red, too, but on reflection - is it a bit too red, wasn't 'Ferrari Red' a bit duller that year?

Rainer Nyberg

Jul 29 2009, 08:17

QUOTE (Tony Matthews @ Jul 29 2009, 01:03)

Agree, this looks 'warmer' more like the Marlboro kind of red.
Should have been more 'blood' red.

ibsenop

Jul 29 2009, 10:44

Could not be Betti fault. I din't see the original.
All my scans have more vivid colours. Could be my scanner or the adjustments on it.
My printed images are more natural than on the screen.

Ibsen

Esprit

Jul 29 2009, 12:24

Hi everyone. Sorry a I cannot speak english well. Only elementary. This is beautiful topic. Yeasterday I printed some drawing. Now i have new beautiful decorations So thank you. I hope that here will be most another drawings. I d like to thanks to all for new informations and posts. Ciao Esprit from Czech rep.

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