I spent some time up in my attic with the hobgoblins on Easter Monday wp, looking for the box of 85G photos - no find. I will bear it in mind when I look for something else, that's always the best way of finding things.

Some of the MG Record Cars.


MG Record Car EX-179 By 'Clarence LaTourette'


MG EX-135 Record car 1933 Artist 'Unknown'


MG EX-135 Record car 1933 Artist 'Unknown'


MG EX-181 Record car 1957 Artist 'Unknown'


MG EX-181 Record car 1957 Artist 'Unknown' (Please note "It had a fishy look")


MG EX-181 Record car 'Motor' by 'Lyndon Jones'


MG EX-181 Record car Cylinder Head Artist 'Unknown'

Finally

1935 Rolls-Royce Blue Bird Campbell/Railton Artist 'Unknown'

Ah well, thanks for even looking Tony You do realise that "being up an attic with hobgoblins on an Easter Monday" could easily have resulted in another health and safety incident? Can you confirm trampoline, safety net and of course the usual array of safety cones were in place?

Older weeds like me are hard to put away Ibsen !

Thanks for the identification.

Here is the car in question Tom, awaiting an id by your expert eye! The thing is the text that accompanies the photo is extremely vague and even includes a spelling mistake.



"Early Days: Don Garlitz, champion driver 1957"

P.S Tom do you have the issue of Sports Cars Illustrated with the centre spread of the Ken Miles MG Special? Now that would be a great addition.

Only a sharper cutaway, my copy of the the compilation poster with all the views is no sharper.

signed Bruno Betti 66

Werks,
I do have that MG Special, and think I have it scanned for assembly. Will have to check, but I know that I have it done, but in a group of things I want to incorporate into a book at some point ... we may all be too old to remember the car, or why we even care by the time it is done.
As to the Garlits pic, that would have been in the car after his trek west for the inaugural Bakersfield Smokers March Meet; the US Fuel and Gas Championships of 1959. It was won by Art Chrisman in the Chrisman and Cannon Hustler, and Garlits had come from Florida with a 6-carb engine and got his head handed to him by the West Coast guys who were running the blowers by that time. Right after the race, Garlits added the GMC blower, as you see in the pic, so that would have been after mid-March of '59, as he continued to run the carbs instead of Fuel Injection, which would have been on the next Swamp Rat cars.
The Caption, other than the spelling, was an appropriate description. He was certainly considered a champion driver, although I don't believe he won any national-level events by 1957, and that shot would not have been 1957.
Hope that helps a bit.
Tom

Werks,
Just checked for you, and I have that LaTourette MG Record car from SCI scanned and put together. Just have to clean it a bit and size it down and will get it out. Also have one by Max Millar on the car that was not included on that last presentation. Will get them sized and will put them out shortly for you.
Tom West

Brilliant

Thanks Tom.

That is even more brilliant. Can't wait! I also have a copy of that Ken Miles MG Special but I'm loathe to post it if it is in any way likely that you will post it in an original/improved form. I literally looked at the Porsches you posted and thought to myself "hang on a minute it is likely that the Ken Miles MG Special will be coming up here soon"

Can't way to see/study the record car in all its glory.

No! Do drive it like that!

Lancia Ferrari D50 Longitudinal Section by Bruno Betti - page 56 (not a cutaway)



Ibsen

Hi Marc. Glad you're back.
Thought I'd post a couple of items.

First a MG-179 by Theo Page, I think.

http://img210.imageshack.us/i/mgex179page.jpg/

Second, what I think is a F3000 Reynard 94D by JJ Francois patched together from Marc's posting on page 64 of the thread.

http://img695.imageshack.us/i/jjfrancoisreynard94d.jpg/

Does anyone have a copy of JJ Francois Cobra coupe.

Al

OK, here is my version of the LaTourette MG EX-179 Recordcar of Goldie Gardner. This is modified out of February, 1957 issue of Sports Car Illustrated. Took a little more clean-up than I had thought, but here it is.
I do have that Ken Miles MG completed, as well, by the way. Pretty interesting car.
Tom West

This is the second version of the MG EX, the EX-135 as illustrated by Max Millar. It was on a grey background in the February, 1957 issue of Sports Car Illustrated. Not quite sure why anyone thinks this is a good idea to publish a detailed line illustration, but here it is.
By the way, the LaTourette version was in the January , 1957 issue, not the February. Sorry.

Tom West

It has gone MG Record car crazy! Multiple examples of the 179 and the 135, truly unique vehicles. Outstanding stuff!

Thanks Al,
I had started painting in the missing bit on the Reynard, but yours is much better
Here one for all of us to ponder on.
It is a 1960 F Cooper climax.
For me, it has a Brian Hatton feel about it. Your thoughts ?

I'm thinking!

I have seen it before somewhere. The colour seems more muted/monochrome than it should, coloured after the fact?

Thanks Al,
I had started painting in the missing bit on the Reynard, but yours is much better
Here one for all of us to ponder on.
It is a 1960 F Cooper climax.
For me, it has a Brian Hatton feel about it. Your thoughts ?

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Thanks Marc. Glad you liked the Reynard. Thought I'd better post it before I completely mess it up. You can in fact over work a digital image.
As far as the Cooper is concerned here is a Hatton Cooper Climax beyond which I haven't a clue.
http://img17.imageshack.us/i/coopeclimaxhatton.jpg/

Al

Cutaway by Bruno Betti

Ibsen

1959 T-51?

Good grief, that really is special!

Great Ibsen ! , by the way your copy seems a lot brighter and of higher resolution than mine !

ABG, here is the Shelby Cobra Daytona Coupe cutaway by JJ François



WP, my book "Enciclopédia do Automóvel #3 says Cooper F1 1960.

Ibsen

Thanks Ibsen. Lovely drawing of a lovely car.

Al

Here is the version of the T-51 that I have seen before I'm afraid it is only a thumbnail image.

Or larger here http://www.negri.it/ferrariformula1/1959.htm

From http://www.negri.it/ferrariformula1/index.htm and the "Le Vetture" book.

Great stuff Even that little 'Castrol' logo on the door. + no floor or reflection from JJ François, which I think is a good thing.

Going back to "negri" for a second has this http://www.negri.it/ferrariformula1/1954.htm shown its face yet here?

For the bb cooper ,i think it's a t53 model,it's very similar of the vic berris cooper t53 which you can find herewith.The quality of this copy is not very good,but the reproduction in the book:1,5 l grand prix racing 1961-1965,is bad

Thank's Mark for the ferrari lancia d50

shelby cobra jj françois with the "floor"

Ah the floor! and the reflection

Actually, I have a cutaway of a bike where the illustrator has implemented a fairly extreme and rather literal 'reflection' technique. I will put up later.

It is very cleverly done, although I sometimes feel the reflections on these illustrations over complicate what is already complicated subject.

I've tried doing similar things in the past and it's not easy to make it look "right".

Yep, that is the exact point I was trying to make in post #4479, it is technically well done, but 'feels' fussy.

It's actually kind of painful to look at for me. Every part is given equal focus and lighting, as if no part casts a shadow on another. Too much contrast in each element. That, and blue against orange floor is ultra-punchy. It definitely has impact, but could use subtlety.

Here is the example of the bike I referred to earlier.

Honda CX500 Turbo 1982 By 'Roger Savage'

An extreme and rather literal reflection (A model was photographed sitting on top of a mirror with additional information coming from the machine itself). But the reflection I think here assists a little in the actual function of the cutaway.

Design by Bradley 12/82 the "Discard Car" concept

this design is the Magazine Popular Mechanics in 1983, spanish edition

That magazine is responsible for some of the best covers of all time

Audi Quattro and Lancia 037 cutaway by Giorgio Alisi



Ibsen

Just a followup on the Disposacar ... the artist is Harry Bentley Bradley, one of the better designers of custom cars and show cars out of the 70s. He came out of Art Center in LA, went to GM for a drink of water, returned to Art Center and taught illustration to Transportation Majors along with the custom work. He was a consultant to MPC when I got there in 1977, and I kept him on with a bit more direction and we had a great relationship in the modelkit custom work for a while.
Think he still teaches at Art Center.

Tom West

There is something aesthetically unusual and accidentally brilliant about these.

They don't look very inspiring as thumbnails, but big them up and they are very nice - I like his signature as well. I never got round to forming a signature , I just write my name in my usual handwriting, very boring.

I'm going off on a bit of a tangent as usual but for some reason this concept brings to mind this literally 'green' electric Ferrari concept by Virgil Exner Jr (Son of Virgil Exner of Studebaker and Chrysler styling fame) It is a plug-in electric AWD Ferrari, 0-60 in 3.5 seconds, the 'Testa Verde'.

http://nozama.typepad.com/.shared/image.ht...e_layout_50.jpg

Particularly the Lancia!

Your signature is great Tony. I am constantly marvelling at it rotating around the various axis.

For those still a little nostalgic for the older draughting techniques here are a few of my Dads old 'tools', before he was forced to switch to Autodesk in the 1980's. (I don't know what it is but there is a really strange smell associated with the type of plastic used for some of these ellipse guides)






Not automotive but this is typical of one of his 'preliminary/working something out' drawings. They are not as old as they look, 1980's. The scanner has made them look distinctly 'wood smoked' but this is also partially a symptom of the discolouration of the paper, these weren't really given much storage priority, folded up etc like old maps.

1.Jensen-Healy MK1. By 'J. Attrill' (Jensen Motors Ltd)

2.Jensen FF (Ferguson Formula). Rolling Chassis. Artist 'unknown' (Motor)

3.Jensen Straight Eight. Artist 'Unknown' (Autocar)

4.Jensen 541 'S' Series Saloon 1960. Artist 'Unknown'

Nostalgic Times?

Brazilian firm "Trident" http://www.trident.com.br/index.php?cat=39 still makes French curves, naval curves, road curves, ellipse guides and much more drawing instruments.



Williams FW08 cutaway by Giulio Betti.



TNF Cutaway Index updated at page 110.

Ibsen

I was going to comment on the unique smell of Leitz and Alvin ellipse guides, then I saw the perspective in this semi-cutaway, and felt more inclined to comment on that, instead... How many vanishing points do you need?

'Salty' sums up that unique smell I think! (I wonder what is used in the production? Don't say Salt)