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raoul leDuke
The Tyrrell that never was.

In the latter half of 1971, the late Derek Gardner penned this car for the 1972 season. A monocoque was built and a full size mock up tested in the MIRA wind tunnel. It turned out to "unstable in yaw" as Derek put it.



Drawing by Hatton for the Motor
Tony Matthews
QUOTE (raoul leDuke @ May 11 2011, 12:29) *
The Tyrrell that never was.

In the latter half of 1971, the late Derek Gardner penned this car for the 1972 season. A monocoque was built and a full size mock up tested in the MIRA wind tunnel. It turned out to "unstable in yaw" as Derek put it.



Drawing by Hatton for the Motor

What a terrific-looking car! What a shame it never got to race... Nice drawing too.
P 4 Staff
QUOTE (Tony Matthews @ May 11 2011, 19:00) *
What a terrific-looking car! What a shame it never got to race... Nice drawing too.

Was mister Gardner ahead of his time?
I see some things in this drawing that became reality.
Best.
ibsenop
Curtiss P40 Kittyhawk by unknown artist

macoran
I've been neglecting my efforts here far too long !!

Found Clarence LaTourette's Chevrolet Stingray reprinted in an issue of Autocar, though it is apparantly Car & Driver copyright.
The same article shows the older Corvette chassis in the nude.



macoran
QUOTE (Duc-Man @ May 11 2011, 10:18) *
I'm very confused looking at this: a DOHC 4 valve engine from GM? That must be a joke!

Why ? anything is possible for 2012.
Duc-Man
QUOTE (raoul leDuke @ May 11 2011, 12:29) *
The Tyrrell that never was.

In the latter half of 1971, the late Derek Gardner penned this car for the 1972 season. A monocoque was built and a full size mock up tested in the MIRA wind tunnel. It turned out to "unstable in yaw" as Derek put it.



Drawing by Hatton for the Motor

Does anybody have a Photo from that mock up? What was this cars type number?
macoran
QUOTE (Duc-Man @ May 14 2011, 12:47) *
Does anybody have a Photo from that mock up? What was this cars type number?

I have the article which was published in Motor magazine...somewhere.
IIRC a Motor journalist and Brian Hatton had an interview with Gardner and Tyrrell.
Out of that interview the journalist wrote up what could be in the pipeline for a future Tyrrell design,
and Hatton drew a cutaway to suit.
I don't recall there really being a mock-up ever.
This cutaway should be seen more as being an artist's impression.
I'll have to find the article and scan it.
Tim Murray
Don't worry, Marc - job already done.
Duc-Man
QUOTE (Tim Murray @ May 14 2011, 13:07) *
Don't worry, Marc - job already done.

Thanks a lot.
I still would really like to see a photo of the 'actual' car and I would love to see that thing on track.
TWest
Marc,
You made me feel guilty for having been "off" for a while again, so figured I would pull a few out of the scanned images ... of course, having to assemble them a bit to post.
Going aviation for three images today, starting with a fairly significant record breaker from around 60 years ago.
This is Mike Badrocke's version of the Bell X-1 Research craft, first to break the Sound Barrier, and making Chuck Yeager a fairly well-known name. I am showing that it flew first in 1947, which is a stunning realization when you think about what has happened since.
This is out of the December, 2007 issue of Air International, but was not a full two-page spread.
Tom West

TWest
When I started looking into aviation cutaways in 1972, one of the guys who stood out in the Air Enthusiast issues of the time was John Weal. He was pretty prolific with the cutaways until Mike Badrocke and his Aviagraphica name showed up. Still a fairly impressive body of work. This is the Fairey Fulmar I that was published in the May, 2011 issue of Aeroplane. I did not notice the original publication date of the piece.
Tom West

TWest
An interesting aircraft that was used widely around the world, this is an adaptation of the F-111 Ardvark Fighter-Bomber, originally conceived as a combination of all military air needs for the Army and Navy, and ended up with some widely varied tasks that it filled. One of the more successful applications of this swing-wing craft from Grumman-General Dynamics was as the EF-111 Raven, a countermeasures aircraft. Here you see Mike Badrocke's illustration of the EF-111 as published in Air International, October, 2008.
Tom West

TWest
QUOTE (Duc-Man @ May 14 2011, 05:18) *
Thanks a lot.
I still would really like to see a photo of the 'actual' car and I would love to see that thing on track.



I am working from memory here ... so don't publish without backing it up ... but there was a very similar car designed by Maurice Phillipe for the Vel's-Parnelli Indy car team. They made a big splash with the V-Tail and various other similar approaches, but most of the unique features were removed and the car competed in a more Plain-Jane configuration. It certainly never got copied and taken into other active ventures that I saw. I had not seen this project when I first saw the Indy car, so it appeared to be pretty innovative. Interesting to see parallel development of a concept happening ... it is just time for something to seem logical, whether it proves to be or not.
Tom West
macoran
QUOTE (TWest @ May 14 2011, 21:59) *
I am working from memory here ... so don't publish without backing it up ... but there was a very similar car designed by Maurice Phillipe for the Vel's-Parnelli Indy car team. They made a big splash with the V-Tail and various other similar approaches, but most of the unique features were removed and the car competed in a more Plain-Jane configuration. It certainly never got copied and taken into other active ventures that I saw. I had not seen this project when I first saw the Indy car, so it appeared to be pretty innovative. Interesting to see parallel development of a concept happening ... it is just time for something to seem logical, whether it proves to be or not.
Tom West

Tom, I must presume you are referring to the Parnelli VPJ2 Iposted on page 38.


TWest
QUOTE (macoran @ May 14 2011, 13:29) *
Tom, I must presume you are referring to the Parnelli VPJ2 Iposted on page 38.



Ah, thought it had come up on the radar recently ... that would, indeed, be it.
Tom West
macoran
Just added this to my MGB collection.
Still haven't got a hold of the Allingtons !!! evil.gif

Here Dick Ellis' MGB 1800.....Softtop and/or cabrio were not in "schwung" terms those days.
This is from the Autocar 21st Sept 1962 intro article, and included a drawing of the
monocoque chassis/body and front suspension




macoran
From another 1962 Autocar issue. w/e 26 October 1962
BRM P51 by Dick Ellis


Duc-Man
QUOTE (macoran @ May 14 2011, 21:29) *
Tom, I must presume you are referring to the Parnelli VPJ2 Iposted on page 38.


I've seen pictures of that car. What I wonder is how they came up with such funny angled wings... confused.gif
CVA
lotus eclat by Tony Divey
macoran
QUOTE (Duc-Man @ May 15 2011, 10:20) *
I've seen pictures of that car. What I wonder is how they came up with such funny angled wings... confused.gif

The age of aero experimentation I would suppose.
The dihedral wings actually housed some radiators.
The shadow of the left of the car shows wing shadow, the wing itself isn't there but you can see the radiator.
macoran
QUOTE (CVA @ May 15 2011, 10:51) *
lotus eclat by Tony Divey

Now that is a Lotus cutaway! tongue.gif
macoran
Ford Cortina by Vic Berris in Autocar 21 Sept 1962 launch article,
Article includes engine cutaway by Max Millar, and a drawing by A.N.Other of the "optional"
gearbox column change.




macoran
Morris 1100 by Vic Berris,
sorry couldn't get it any better

macoran
Tom West did a spit and polish job on the Morris for us
Thanks Tom !


Embers
QUOTE (Duc-Man @ May 15 2011, 00:20) *
I've seen pictures of that car. What I wonder is how they came up with such funny angled wings... confused.gif


There a good explanation of the "whys" and "what happened" to the VPJ1 Indy car written by Alan Lis in the May 2011 issue of Racecar Engineering.
Motocar
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Tim Murray
Hi Motocar, please could you try to explain why you are having difficulty. If we know what the problem is, we can try to help. I'm not aware of any new format here since the software was upgraded two years ago. smile.gif
TWest
QUOTE (Tim Murray @ May 15 2011, 23:33) *
Hi Motocar, please could you try to explain why you are having difficulty. If we know what the problem is, we can try to help. I'm not aware of any new format here since the software was upgraded two years ago. smile.gif



Thanks for commenting on that, Tim. I was wondering what new format was in place. Thought I missed something ...
Tom West
Tony Matthews
Perhaps he's being distracted by the nose-art!
TWest
QUOTE (Tony Matthews @ May 16 2011, 16:22) *
Perhaps he's being distracted by the nose-art!



He would have to be getting inside to be able to see that ... don't think that is it.
But it is a humorous thought.
Tom West
werks prototype
QUOTE (raoul leDuke @ May 11 2011, 12:29) *


QUOTE (macoran @ May 14 2011, 21:29) *



Winged Whimsy. By Who Cares.


Apologies for this speculative winged 'whimsy'. It is neither cutaway nor serious design study. Nevertheless, lets just say it sprang to mind!
werks prototype

Another version of the 4WD Spyker, as originally posted by Macoran, way, way back on page 43. A slightly different context, including also a plan silhouette.
By Brian, (for some strange reason I always feel the urge to type, Derek) Hatton.
werks prototype

Alfa Tipo 160.
2.5-litre 1952 4WD design study. Giovani Cavara.
werks prototype

Bugatti T53 4WD Hillclimber. By Mir.
werks prototype

Kenz Streamliner. Rex Burnett.
werks prototype

Gulf-Miller cutaway-profile. Artist unknown.
werks prototype

Bentley MK VI Chassis. By John Ferguson.
werks prototype


Cosworth 4WD and McLaren M9A 4WD, by Brian Hatton, again, originally posted by Marc on page 64. (This time, less the annotative numbering).
werks prototype

'The truth laid bare' MG EX 182 by Theo page and accompanying cartoon, by French artist, Heljy.


MG EX-179. By Theo Page. An alternative to the link given at page 112.
werks prototype

Trident. Artist unknown (Looking suspicioulsy like a coloured version of that first posted on page 216)
werks prototype

Gloster Meteor. Artist unknown.
werks prototype

Douglas A4D Skyhawk. Artist unknown.
werks prototype

Hovercat Mk.2. By Ira Epton
werks prototype

Rolls-Royce Silver Cloud III. Artist unknown. In-House catalogue.


Rolls-Royce 'modified' 6.230 c.c. V8. (Compare with version posted on page 177). By Vic Berris.


Rolls-Royce Silver Shadow and Bentley 'T' series rear axle. Artist unknown.
simplebrother
QUOTE (werks prototype @ May 8 2011, 14:09) *

Westland Wyvern. Artist unknown.


Wyvern appears to be by Roy Cross...


Peter
helioseism
Local Motors Spearhead concept. See this website for more images.

Duc-Man
QUOTE (werks prototype @ May 18 2011, 00:37) *

Winged Whimsy. By Who Cares.


Apologies for this speculative winged 'whimsy'. It is neither cutaway nor serious design study. Nevertheless, lets just say it sprang to mind!


If that would have a red/black paint job I'd say it is a 'Leader' out of a Michel Vaillante comic...
ibsenop
Lola T160 by Brian Hatton



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