Originally posted by Russell Burrows
We could sue Phil for offences against comedic art?
We could sue Phil for offences against comedic art?
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Originally posted by Paul Rochdale
What was the actual story when Chris Vincent shot up an escape road at a circuit only to collide with a parked ambulance or another vehicle anyway? I think Terry Harrison was his passenger and was seriously injured. Didn't Harrison then sue Vincent as a result of that?
What was the actual story when Chris Vincent shot up an escape road at a circuit only to collide with a parked ambulance or another vehicle anyway? I think Terry Harrison was his passenger and was seriously injured. Didn't Harrison then sue Vincent as a result of that?
Anyone know which of Chris' passengers this bloke is? And is that Peter Chapman helping with the fettling?
Who is this ?
A little help: it is 1956 at Brands Hatch. Nice detail is Jack Surtees van in the background.
A little help: it is 1956 at Brands Hatch. Nice detail is Jack Surtees van in the background.
The late Dennis Lasmar on his special Goldie ?
The bike is right. It's the ex Lashmar Pike framed BSA Goldstar. But it can't be Dennis because Dennis sadly lost his life two years earlier at the German GP of 1954.
here is another photo of the same rider with the same bike.
This time at the Isle of Man. Also 1956.
here is another photo of the same rider with the same bike.
This time at the Isle of Man. Also 1956.
Yes Ton, I checked only after I had posted my answer.... In which case its Gerry Turner, a name I have lifted from a website after Googling Dennis. I have to say I have never previously heard of him.
Dennis was a bit before my time but I recall my Dad talking about him and the Goldie a fair bit.
Dennis was a bit before my time but I recall my Dad talking about him and the Goldie a fair bit.
Sory mate, I've just clicked that you have previously posted a picture of your wonderfully restored Pike/Lashmar BSA. Did you ever see Dennis race it?
I'm surprised to learn that a version of the bike contunued to be raced into the late sixties/ early seventies by Paul Selleck. Around 1972, he became the last in a long line of riders sponsored by Tom Kirby.
I'm surprised to learn that a version of the bike contunued to be raced into the late sixties/ early seventies by Paul Selleck. Around 1972, he became the last in a long line of riders sponsored by Tom Kirby.
Hi there, sorry to say I didn't because I was born in 1954. Gerry Turner it is indeed. Gerry raced the bike not without succes in 500, 350 and even 250cc form. In 1956 he finished 33rd int he IOM Junior TT and in 1958 he finished 15th in the 250 cc IOM TT with the same engine , this time sleeved down to 250cc.
Originally posted by Russell Burrows
Sory mate, I've just clicked that you have previously posted a picture of your wonderfully restored Pike/Lashmar BSA. Did you ever see Dennis race it?
I'm surprised to learn that a version of the bike contunued to be raced into the late sixties/ early seventies by Paul Selleck. Around 1972, he became the last in a long line of riders sponsored by Tom Kirby.
Sory mate, I've just clicked that you have previously posted a picture of your wonderfully restored Pike/Lashmar BSA. Did you ever see Dennis race it?
I'm surprised to learn that a version of the bike contunued to be raced into the late sixties/ early seventies by Paul Selleck. Around 1972, he became the last in a long line of riders sponsored by Tom Kirby.
I saw Paul Selleck win at Brands in the 1972 Trans Trophy meeting,on the Kirby Seeley 636 something?
Yes, Paul Selleck raced the Pike-BSA later on. We're still talking about the same bike.
Last year I managed to contact Paul and I got some wonderful pictures of him and the bike.
Unfortuneately I lost his email adress due to a computer crash.
So Paul, if you by any chance are reading this please contact me again .
Last year I managed to contact Paul and I got some wonderful pictures of him and the bike.
Unfortuneately I lost his email adress due to a computer crash.
So Paul, if you by any chance are reading this please contact me again .
Hi,
I don't know a lot about the history of bike racing but, this morning on BBC Radio 4, I heard an interesting piece on Beryl Swain and the 1962 IOM TT. In case anybody's interested: BBC 'Listen Again' Woman's Hour, Wednesday 3/12.
I know, what was I doing listening to Woman's Hour? I meant to select Planet Rock but pressed the wrong button. Honest.
I don't know a lot about the history of bike racing but, this morning on BBC Radio 4, I heard an interesting piece on Beryl Swain and the 1962 IOM TT. In case anybody's interested: BBC 'Listen Again' Woman's Hour, Wednesday 3/12.
I know, what was I doing listening to Woman's Hour? I meant to select Planet Rock but pressed the wrong button. Honest.
Originally posted by john winfield
Hi,
I know, what was I doing listening to Woman's Hour? I meant to select Planet Rock but pressed the wrong button. Honest.
Hi,
I know, what was I doing listening to Woman's Hour? I meant to select Planet Rock but pressed the wrong button. Honest.
A likely story
What a great pic of Beryl Swain in the kitchen.
In her wikipedia biography, it´s claimed that the 2nd woman to compete on the IOM was Hilary Musson in 1978.
I might be just imagining this, but didn´t Andrea Williams (Herron) do a TT sometime prior to 1978?
Sad to see Beryl Passed away last year. I didn´t know that. RIP.
Has anyone managed to hear the piece on the listern again wotsit ? I keep being told it's not available.... I well recall Beryl 's slim leather clad figure astride the Itom at Brands and I think the Palace. It's sad that she is no longer with us and that she was very ill for a long period before she died.
Hi Russell
I listened to it today. Try the link below.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio4/womanshour/lis...08_49_wed.shtml
I listened to it today. Try the link below.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio4/womanshour/lis...08_49_wed.shtml
Thanks Classic - still havent been able to get it though. 
A woman's place is in the kitchen...
Originally posted by Russell Burrows
Thanks Classic - still havent been able to get it though.
Thanks Classic - still havent been able to get it though.
Nor me
Originally posted by fines
A woman's place is in the kitchen...
A woman's place is in the kitchen...
Well, she might be smoothing up the Itom's exhaust port at the kitchen table, but she's also got the dinner on the stove in the background !! What a good bird.
Originally posted by fil2.8
Nor me
Nor me
Phil, finally got it via the radio 4 podcast (whatever that is).
Originally posted by Russell Burrows
Phil, finally got it via the radio 4 podcast (whatever that is).
Phil, finally got it via the radio 4 podcast (whatever that is).
Yes Russ , tried to 'click on ' again , and guess what ? it worked .
Well worth a listen --how attitudes change
Photo Nr.4 and 5 Bremgarten 1953 shows Hans Baltisberger from Reutlingen-Betzingen (Germany)
Originally posted by Twin Window
Paul - thanks for the help. Unfortunately I don't have the ability to post larger files just yet, but will be able to do so in a week or so.
In the meantime, can you - or anyone else - make anything of these?
[b]Bremgarten 1953
1
2 
3
4 & 5
6 
IoM TT 1954
1
2 
3 & 4 
5
Hockenheim 1955
1 & 2
3 & 4 
[/B]
Paul - thanks for the help. Unfortunately I don't have the ability to post larger files just yet, but will be able to do so in a week or so.
In the meantime, can you - or anyone else - make anything of these?
[b]Bremgarten 1953
1
2
3
4 & 5
6
IoM TT 1954
1
2 3 & 4
5
Hockenheim 1955
1 & 2
3 & 4 [/B]
Bremgarten : 2 Bill Doran, 3 Reg Armstrong.
Isle of Man : 3 Rod Coleman,4 Bill Lomas, 5 Arthur Wheeler.....
Isle of Man : 3 Rod Coleman,4 Bill Lomas, 5 Arthur Wheeler.....
Hi there
Brem : 2 Bill Doran, 3 Reg Armstrong, 5 Ray Amm, 6 Enrico Lorenzetti.
IOM : 1 Jack Brett, 3 Rod Coleman, 4 Bill Lomas, 5 Arthur Wheeler.
H'hiem: Cyril Smith, 2&3 Pip Harris, 4 Eric Oliver.
Brem : 2 Bill Doran, 3 Reg Armstrong, 5 Ray Amm, 6 Enrico Lorenzetti.
IOM : 1 Jack Brett, 3 Rod Coleman, 4 Bill Lomas, 5 Arthur Wheeler.
H'hiem: Cyril Smith, 2&3 Pip Harris, 4 Eric Oliver.
Who's going to adjudicate, chaps?
I think this may be of interest for us all .
Dutch broadcasting company VPRO has a collection of old movie material of old motorcycle racing events posted on her website. Mainly Dutch TT. Available are films from the 30's -70's. Some with and some without sound. Enjoy yourself !
www.geschiedenis.vpro.nl/artikelen/35181926/
Dutch broadcasting company VPRO has a collection of old movie material of old motorcycle racing events posted on her website. Mainly Dutch TT. Available are films from the 30's -70's. Some with and some without sound. Enjoy yourself !
www.geschiedenis.vpro.nl/artikelen/35181926/
The previous link doesn't work. Try this one: http://geschiedenis.vpro.nl/artikelen/35181926/
Thanks Ton, although I haven't quite worked out how I can view it yet, something to do with me plug ins.......
EXCELLENT 
Terrific Ton, I went in 64 and apart from the racing I was stunned by the size of the crowds that these clips show so well.
Originally posted by Bernard
Terrific Ton, I went in 64 and apart from the racing I was stunned by the size of the crowds that these clips show so well.
Terrific Ton, I went in 64 and apart from the racing I was stunned by the size of the crowds that these clips show so well.
Talking about size of crowds I always must think of the German GP 1954 at the Solitude ring where 435.000 spectators watched the race.
One lane of the Autobahn was kept free for parking. 918 buses, 18.400 cars, 31.000 motorcycles were counted. Counting the bicycles seemed impossible
Originally posted by Ton
Talking about size of crowds I always must think of the German GP 1954 at the Solitude ring where 435.000 spectators watched the race.
One lane of the Autobahn was kept free for parking. 918 buses, 18.400 cars, 31.000 motorcycles were counted. Counting the bicycles seemed impossible
Talking about size of crowds I always must think of the German GP 1954 at the Solitude ring where 435.000 spectators watched the race.
One lane of the Autobahn was kept free for parking. 918 buses, 18.400 cars, 31.000 motorcycles were counted. Counting the bicycles seemed impossible
Counting all the above would have been quite a feat !!!
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Yes, staggering figures. I suppose even then Germany's revival was still underway and things were a bit grim, paticularly on the entertainment / distraction front ? But then again the NSU team were going great guns..... Would it be churlish to consider how much of that gate money was received by the riders? Even if it was the eqivalent of five bob or so to get in that's still a lot of DM's.
As I will be away over the weekend, and therefore sans computer, I will post this up now.
Sunday will be the 46th anniversary of Gary´s passing, and as such, I would like to remember the great man with this pic from the 1961 350 Ulster GP, which I saw on Murray Barnard´s great site, WWW.OZEBOOK.COM
RIP Sox. You will never be forgotten champ.
Sunday will be the 46th anniversary of Gary´s passing, and as such, I would like to remember the great man with this pic from the 1961 350 Ulster GP, which I saw on Murray Barnard´s great site, WWW.OZEBOOK.COM
RIP Sox. You will never be forgotten champ.
Yes, should be counted among the greats.
The A-FRAME SUZUKI XR14 - How's your Japanese?
I hope I'm forgiven but a guy on another forum was interested in A-Frames - when, where, etc and I tried to help. Then when I was trawling one of my favourite Japanese web-sites, I came across this picture. So I thought I'd post the information here for the Suzuki buffs to feed on. I make no apologies for using a similar posting but I find it hard to add all the secret codes in the right places. Having done it for one posting, I don't really want to do it for this one too.
Here's a photo of a Suzuki XR14 A-Frame as used at Imatra in 1975:
The Red Arrow points to the cross-bar of the 'A' which is tilted left about 45 degrees on the frame.
The Japanese web-site displaying this photo was created by 'Kenichi Noda" (real name Kazu Akiyama) a racing fanatic who lives near the Kawasaki factory at Akashi, 60 kms west of Osaka. His fantastic website covers the history of many Suzuki racers such as the XR14 but also XR16-XR29, XR20, XR34, XR40, XR45, XR75 and XR79. And that list covers just the 'modern' Suzuki racers. You'll find the photo at the end of the page on the Right Hand side of the XR14 History here:
http://noda-kenichi.hp.infoseek.co.jp/xr14/XR14-2.htm
For others who just want a Japanese Racing Machine-Fest on Honda, Yamaha and Kawasaki (there's even Tohatsu and Bridgestone too), go to Noda-San's HOME PAGE here:
http://noda-kenichi.hp.infoseek.co.jp/nkmenu.htm.
By the way, for those who don't read Japanese
, right-click on the Japanese text and select 'Page Info/Translate Page into English'. The current and other hyperlinked Japanese pages should then be translated automatically (mine does anyway). But be warned, Suzuki literally means 'Bell Tree' and is sometimes translated as 'Sea Bass' too. The translation is helpful as a guide but not to be taken too literally.
Finally, when English words have no Japanese equivalent, they just write them down using phonetic symbols called Hiragana. When these are re-translated back into English you get words like:
AGOSUCHINI = Agostini
DABURUKUREDORUFUREMU = double cradle frame
FAKUTORIRAIDA = factory rider
GIASEREKUTA = gear selector
ROTARIDISUKUBARUBU = rotary disc valve (no V sound in Japanese so they substitute a B)
Let's break down one of these words:
DABORU - pronounced quickly, it could easily pass for DOUBLE - yes?
KUREDORU - No L sound in Japanese so R is substitued. Say it quickly again to get the gist.
FUREMU - Japanese don't like ending words on a consonant and usually add a silent 'U' on the end to overcome the problem.
And we think we've got problems teaching English to our kids? In Japan they have three different written symbol sets (Kanji, Hiragana and Katakana) with Kanji having not 26 characters but 3,500 characters. We can only admire the Japanese for adopting 'Western' words and shoe-horning them into their spoken and written communications so well.
Ray Battersby
I hope I'm forgiven but a guy on another forum was interested in A-Frames - when, where, etc and I tried to help. Then when I was trawling one of my favourite Japanese web-sites, I came across this picture. So I thought I'd post the information here for the Suzuki buffs to feed on. I make no apologies for using a similar posting but I find it hard to add all the secret codes in the right places. Having done it for one posting, I don't really want to do it for this one too.
Here's a photo of a Suzuki XR14 A-Frame as used at Imatra in 1975:
The Red Arrow points to the cross-bar of the 'A' which is tilted left about 45 degrees on the frame.
The Japanese web-site displaying this photo was created by 'Kenichi Noda" (real name Kazu Akiyama) a racing fanatic who lives near the Kawasaki factory at Akashi, 60 kms west of Osaka. His fantastic website covers the history of many Suzuki racers such as the XR14 but also XR16-XR29, XR20, XR34, XR40, XR45, XR75 and XR79. And that list covers just the 'modern' Suzuki racers. You'll find the photo at the end of the page on the Right Hand side of the XR14 History here:
http://noda-kenichi.hp.infoseek.co.jp/xr14/XR14-2.htm
For others who just want a Japanese Racing Machine-Fest on Honda, Yamaha and Kawasaki (there's even Tohatsu and Bridgestone too), go to Noda-San's HOME PAGE here:
http://noda-kenichi.hp.infoseek.co.jp/nkmenu.htm.
By the way, for those who don't read Japanese
, right-click on the Japanese text and select 'Page Info/Translate Page into English'. The current and other hyperlinked Japanese pages should then be translated automatically (mine does anyway). But be warned, Suzuki literally means 'Bell Tree' and is sometimes translated as 'Sea Bass' too. The translation is helpful as a guide but not to be taken too literally.
Finally, when English words have no Japanese equivalent, they just write them down using phonetic symbols called Hiragana. When these are re-translated back into English you get words like:
AGOSUCHINI = Agostini
DABURUKUREDORUFUREMU = double cradle frame
FAKUTORIRAIDA = factory rider
GIASEREKUTA = gear selector
ROTARIDISUKUBARUBU = rotary disc valve (no V sound in Japanese so they substitute a B)
Let's break down one of these words:
DABORU - pronounced quickly, it could easily pass for DOUBLE - yes?
KUREDORU - No L sound in Japanese so R is substitued. Say it quickly again to get the gist.
FUREMU - Japanese don't like ending words on a consonant and usually add a silent 'U' on the end to overcome the problem.
And we think we've got problems teaching English to our kids? In Japan they have three different written symbol sets (Kanji, Hiragana and Katakana) with Kanji having not 26 characters but 3,500 characters. We can only admire the Japanese for adopting 'Western' words and shoe-horning them into their spoken and written communications so well.
Ray Battersby
Thanks for the info Ray, I'm sure the guys on the other thread will appreciate it. I'm not able to move it myself without losing the links.....
Originally posted by Sergio
[b]The A-FRAME SUZUKI XR14 - How's your Japanese?
I hope I'm forgiven but a guy on another forum was interested in A-Frames - when, where, etc and I tried to help. Then when I was trawling one of my favourite Japanese web-sites, I came across this picture. So I thought I'd post the information here for the Suzuki buffs to feed on. I make no apologies for using a similar posting but I find it hard to add all the secret codes in the right places. Having done it for one posting, I don't really want to do it for this one too.
Here's a photo of a Suzuki XR14 A-Frame as used at Imatra in 1975:
The Red Arrow points to the cross-bar of the 'A' which is tilted left about 45 degrees on the frame.
The Japanese web-site displaying this photo was created by 'Kenichi Noda" (real name Kazu Akiyama) a racing fanatic who lives near the Kawasaki factory at Akashi, 60 kms west of Osaka. His fantastic website covers the history of many Suzuki racers such as the XR14 but also XR16-XR29, XR20, XR34, XR40, XR45, XR75 and XR79. And that list covers just the 'modern' Suzuki racers. You'll find the photo at the end of the page on the Right Hand side of the XR14 History here:
http://noda-kenichi.hp.infoseek.co.jp/xr14/XR14-2.htm
For others who just want a Japanese Racing Machine-Fest on Honda, Yamaha and Kawasaki (there's even Tohatsu and Bridgestone too), go to Noda-San's HOME PAGE here:
http://noda-kenichi.hp.infoseek.co.jp/nkmenu.htm.
By the way, for those who don't read Japanese, right-click on the Japanese text and select 'Page Info/Translate Page into English'. The current and other hyperlinked Japanese pages should then be translated automatically (mine does anyway). But be warned, Suzuki literally means 'Bell Tree' and is sometimes translated as 'Sea Bass' too. The translation is helpful as a guide but not to be taken too literally.
Finally, when English words have no Japanese equivalent, they just write them down using phonetic symbols called Hiragana. When these are re-translated back into English you get words like:
AGOSUCHINI = Agostini
DABURUKUREDORUFUREMU = double cradle frame
FAKUTORIRAIDA = factory rider
GIASEREKUTA = gear selector
ROTARIDISUKUBARUBU = rotary disc valve (no V sound in Japanese so they substitute a B)
Let's break down one of these words:
DABORU - pronounced quickly, it could easily pass for DOUBLE - yes?
KUREDORU - No L sound in Japanese so R is substitued. Say it quickly again to get the gist.
FUREMU - Japanese don't like ending words on a consonant and usually add a silent 'U' on the end to overcome the problem.
And we think we've got problems teaching English to our kids? In Japan they have three different written symbol sets (Kanji, Hiragana and Katakana) with Kanji having not 26 characters but 3,500 characters. We can only admire the Japanese for adopting 'Western' words and shoe-horning them into their spoken and written communications so well.
Ray Battersby [/B]
[b]The A-FRAME SUZUKI XR14 - How's your Japanese?
I hope I'm forgiven but a guy on another forum was interested in A-Frames - when, where, etc and I tried to help. Then when I was trawling one of my favourite Japanese web-sites, I came across this picture. So I thought I'd post the information here for the Suzuki buffs to feed on. I make no apologies for using a similar posting but I find it hard to add all the secret codes in the right places. Having done it for one posting, I don't really want to do it for this one too.
Here's a photo of a Suzuki XR14 A-Frame as used at Imatra in 1975:
The Red Arrow points to the cross-bar of the 'A' which is tilted left about 45 degrees on the frame.
The Japanese web-site displaying this photo was created by 'Kenichi Noda" (real name Kazu Akiyama) a racing fanatic who lives near the Kawasaki factory at Akashi, 60 kms west of Osaka. His fantastic website covers the history of many Suzuki racers such as the XR14 but also XR16-XR29, XR20, XR34, XR40, XR45, XR75 and XR79. And that list covers just the 'modern' Suzuki racers. You'll find the photo at the end of the page on the Right Hand side of the XR14 History here:
http://noda-kenichi.hp.infoseek.co.jp/xr14/XR14-2.htm
For others who just want a Japanese Racing Machine-Fest on Honda, Yamaha and Kawasaki (there's even Tohatsu and Bridgestone too), go to Noda-San's HOME PAGE here:
http://noda-kenichi.hp.infoseek.co.jp/nkmenu.htm.
By the way, for those who don't read Japanese
, right-click on the Japanese text and select 'Page Info/Translate Page into English'. The current and other hyperlinked Japanese pages should then be translated automatically (mine does anyway). But be warned, Suzuki literally means 'Bell Tree' and is sometimes translated as 'Sea Bass' too. The translation is helpful as a guide but not to be taken too literally.
Finally, when English words have no Japanese equivalent, they just write them down using phonetic symbols called Hiragana. When these are re-translated back into English you get words like:
AGOSUCHINI = Agostini
DABURUKUREDORUFUREMU = double cradle frame
FAKUTORIRAIDA = factory rider
GIASEREKUTA = gear selector
ROTARIDISUKUBARUBU = rotary disc valve (no V sound in Japanese so they substitute a B)
Let's break down one of these words:
DABORU - pronounced quickly, it could easily pass for DOUBLE - yes?
KUREDORU - No L sound in Japanese so R is substitued. Say it quickly again to get the gist.
FUREMU - Japanese don't like ending words on a consonant and usually add a silent 'U' on the end to overcome the problem.
And we think we've got problems teaching English to our kids? In Japan they have three different written symbol sets (Kanji, Hiragana and Katakana) with Kanji having not 26 characters but 3,500 characters. We can only admire the Japanese for adopting 'Western' words and shoe-horning them into their spoken and written communications so well.
Ray Battersby [/B]
Love this (borrowed) shot.
Originally posted by Russell Burrows
Love this (borrowed) shot.
Love this (borrowed) shot.
Cor
tell you what . What a great pic . Russ 
Where did you find it ??
Superb! 
Originally posted by ex Rhodie racer
As I will be away over the weekend, and therefore sans computer, I will post this up now.
Sunday will be the 46th anniversary of Gary´s passing, and as such, I would like to remember the great man with this pic from the 1961 350 Ulster GP, which I saw on Murray Barnard´s great site, WWW.OZEBOOK.COM
RIP Sox. You will never be forgotten champ.
As I will be away over the weekend, and therefore sans computer, I will post this up now.
Sunday will be the 46th anniversary of Gary´s passing, and as such, I would like to remember the great man with this pic from the 1961 350 Ulster GP, which I saw on Murray Barnard´s great site, WWW.OZEBOOK.COM
RIP Sox. You will never be forgotten champ.
..So elegant...!
Originally posted by fil2.8
Cor tell you what . What a great pic . Russ Where did you find it ??
Cor
tell you what . What a great pic . Russ Where did you find it ?? Anyone have any idea who this might be?
The guy on the 7R - the pic didnt appear for some reason......
A couple more of Eddie Whitham's 1960s photos from Oulton Park. I plead ignorance on the identities of all except Phil Read on No 4, and a works Honda No 2 alongside him. I'm sure you guys will fill in more detail.
No 2 Honda, Ralph Bryans
On left almost out of shot, Luigi Taveri or Guila Marsovsky.
Originally posted by Alan Cox
A couple more of Eddie Whitham's 1960s photos from Oulton Park. I plead ignorance on the identities of all except Phil Read on No 4, and a works Honda No 2 alongside him. I'm sure you guys will fill in more detail.
A couple more of Eddie Whitham's 1960s photos from Oulton Park. I plead ignorance on the identities of all except Phil Read on No 4, and a works Honda No 2 alongside him. I'm sure you guys will fill in more detail.
Ralph Bryans on the 250 six, making it '67 ? Looks like Syd Lawton standing alongside the Aermacchi number 9, don't know who the rider is though, perhaps son Barry ? Apart from Read and a glimpse of Ivy on the other four, Marsovsky is the only other guy I can i.d.
Lovely shots though - can we have some more please ?
32- The name Reg Everett springs to mind, don't know why. Little Bill? Where? Surely not No9, no ivy leaf on his silver helmet.
Originally posted by Paul Rochdale
32- The name Reg Everett springs to mind, don't know why. Little Bill? Where? Surely not No9, no ivy leaf on his silver helmet.
32- The name Reg Everett springs to mind, don't know why. Little Bill? Where? Surely not No9, no ivy leaf on his silver helmet.
Paul, top photograph, extreme right, It's a Yamaha four........
I fancy number 18 for Reg Everett Paul, and Martin Watson for 22?
The rider behind 22, and to his right, seems familiar but I can't put a name to him - very 'Steve Jolly' helmet design, but I have doubts. Definitly Syd by the Aermacchi Russ - was Brian Lee his jockey around that time - or did he come later?
Any more like these Alan?
The rider behind 22, and to his right, seems familiar but I can't put a name to him - very 'Steve Jolly' helmet design, but I have doubts. Definitly Syd by the Aermacchi Russ - was Brian Lee his jockey around that time - or did he come later?
Any more like these Alan?
Back, by popular demand, three more of Eddie's photos for you to fill in more details.
I know this is local Cheshire hero, Stuart Graham on the No 3 Suzuki, and Bill Ivy on the outside
Stuart Graham, foreground , with Ralph Bryans behind
Stuart Graham leads around Lodge Corner, from Bryans
I know this is local Cheshire hero, Stuart Graham on the No 3 Suzuki, and Bill Ivy on the outside
Stuart Graham, foreground , with Ralph Bryans behind
Stuart Graham leads around Lodge Corner, from Bryans
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