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larryd
Tank looks very Metisse, but a Metisse would not have chain adjusters at the ends of the swinging arm, as is the case here.

Likely a Dunstall product.

I reckon Quarter Bridge during a Manx GP practice (no side numbers!)
GD66
Good point, but front number discs suggest a 500. Quarter Bridge sounds good. From the angle of the pipes, a BSA twin isn't out of the equation. How will we know ? confused.gif
knickerbrook
Looks like a Norton clutch and obviously not unit-construction. I'm going for Sulby Bridge and a 500 Domiracer (because if it is a Dunstall Lowboy frame, I think it's less likely to be a Triumph lump).

C'mon Dusker - put us out of our misery lol.gif !
pmbboy
Originally posted by Henry Snee
This bike was mentioned on here a while ago. I saw this today and it's nice to know that these old bikes are still being restored or maybe I should say preserved in this case. Anyone know what it is?


Hi,
i do know what bike this is but is interesting to notice that it still has an old Dunlop triangular on the rear which still seems to have good tread on it, i also notice that the exhaust looks new which to me means this has stood rotting some where for a good few years and maybe the thinking was put a new exhaust on see if we can get it going. This bike has quite a history in the Uk although it now resides in south africa.
cheers
Peter
dusker
Hello again, I never thought the picture would get as much response, would a picture of the other side of the bike help? roflmao.gif

fil2.8
Originally posted by dusker
Hello again, I never thought the picture would get as much response, would a picture of the other side of the bike help? roflmao.gif



Errrrrrrrrr not much more rolleyes.gif I suppose you think it's funny tongue.gif tongue.gif rolleyes.gif
joepotts7
Originally posted by Henry Snee
This bike was mentioned on here a while ago. I saw this today and it's nice to know that these old bikes are still being restored or maybe I should say preserved in this case. Anyone know what it is?



A few thoughts on it. It looks like it has a Velocette front frame tube and also pushrod Velo crankcases. DOHC outside flywheel Velo based 250cc (assuming) special. Famous velo based 250cc racers I know are Benny Rood's, and Jannie Stander's. Oil tank also looks like its under the engine/frame ala the Parvel.
knickerbrook
Say Dusker - what's going on by the front downtubes? Is that a breather pipe and some emergency tools taped to the frame tube - or a plated (not painted) downtube? Spill the beans!
joepotts7
Originally posted by joepotts7


A few thoughts on it. It looks like it has a Velocette front frame tube and also pushrod Velo crankcases. DOHC outside flywheel Velo based 250cc (assuming) special. Famous velo based 250cc racers I know are Benny Rood's, and Jannie Stander's. Oil tank also looks like its under the engine/frame ala the Parvel.


After thinking about it a bit more I will guess the Jannie Stander Velocette.
knickerbrook
Originally posted by dusker
Hello Henry,
I used a clutch like that one, it was on an Albion 5 speed box, that I had on Manx, before Beart removed it and replaced it with an AMC.

I wonder if anyone knows what bike this is, where it is and who it is?


I say Wilfred roflmao.gif . I'm guessing it's 1970 and a Norton ;) !
dusker
Hello, it`s good but it`s not right lol.gif
picblanc
Originally posted by dusker
Hello Henry,
I used a clutch like that one, it was on an Albion 5 speed box, that I had on Manx, before Beart removed it and replaced it with an AMC.

I wonder if anyone knows what bike this is, where it is and who it is?



AJS?
knickerbrook
I give up then :\ . (My source says you were entered on a Norton!).
Henry Snee
Originally posted by joepotts7
After thinking about it a bit more I will guess the Jannie Stander Velocette.

Well done Joe, it is the Stander Velocette known locally as "Boksnot". Here's a more complete pic of the bike
Henry Snee
JoePotts and others may also be interested in this McIntyre replica also pictured at the weekend.
dusker

Hello again, the question was a bit unfair as the bike was only used once in the I.O.M. The newspaper cutting is not quite accurate but serves a purpose. It was in fact a double overhead camshaft 500cc engine. The bevel drives ran up the pushrod tubes, as far as I can remember (getting on a bit now and brain fade setting in) the drives were of Manx Norton origin. It was very fast but unreliable as it kept on chewing up bevels. Anyway it`s been nice having a bit of fun.
All the best
fil2.8
Originally posted by dusker

Hello again, the question was a bit unfair as the bike was only used once in the I.O.M. The newspaper cutting is not quite accurate but serves a purpose. It was in fact a double overhead camshaft 500cc engine. The bevel drives ran up the pushrod tubes, as far as I can remember (getting on a bit now and brain fade setting in) the drives were of Manx Norton origin. It was very fast but unreliable as it kept on chewing up bevels. Anyway it`s been nice having a bit of fun.
All the best [/B]



Hi Dusker wave.gif Thanks for the info. Very interesting it is to .I cannot remember the bike .
I could not agree more about the bit of fun , it's a pity more people don't share our thoughts rolleyes.gif rolleyes.gif tongue.gif
cheers phil kiss.gif
pmbboy
Originally posted by Henry Snee

Well done Joe, it is the Stander Velocette known locally as "Boksnot". Here's a more complete pic of the bike


Looking at the picture I would not want to try that front brake, i am not to sure of the torque arm and as for the lever arms on the brake cable i think you would be lucky to stop, but it takes nothing away from seeing a great if some what tatty bike from the past.
i did say in a previous post that it had great history and the one factor i remember most was that the Velocette factory were so impresssed with the bike when Jannie raced it in the TT that they took it back to the factory to give a good look over and see what secrets would be revealed.
I hope the presents owners will restore it to its original condition and keep it preserved as it should be.

Peter
knickerbrook
Hi again Dusker. You had us going there lol.gif ! A very interesting story that kept us well entertained. Any more of the same? (By the way, was it Sulby Bridge?).

If memory serves, didn't I see you with a rather tasty Maxton-framed Rotweiller (what we on the forum call a TZ750!) years ago at Pembrey? Any tales to share about that bike? (If so, may be more appropriate on the '69 - '90 thread I'm thinking?).

Barry.
pmbboy
Originally posted by Henry Snee
JoePotts and others may also be interested in this McIntyre replica also pictured at the weekend.


It certainly is a good looking motorcycle not a spec of oil any where. i would say it never looked this good even when it was new or maybe this is new as it is a replica.
anyone got any info as to who built it.
It is a real credit to its owner i hope he enjoyed riding the bike at Zwartkops.
peter
dusker
Hello again Henry,

I remember seeing an AJS like the one you posted, I think it was in the 60`s in GB. Great idea to have the engine and gearbox drop out of the bottom for maintenance, and the eccentric rear chain adjustment on the frame end of the swinging arm.
dusker
Hello again, knickerbrook, you got the rider right.
I thought larryd, got the place and race right. Quarter Bridge during a Manx GP practice about 1967, but I now have doubts, you could be right, it could be Sulby.
Tom
larryd
Not Sulby Bridge - by the time you're on the bridge you're upright and straight, and there's no way you're that close to the right hand side of the road.

Stick with QB!
Russell Burrows
Originally posted by Henry Snee
JoePotts and others may also be interested in this McIntyre replica also pictured at the weekend.


It's certainly immaculate but...... that megga looks strangely positioned; should'nt the pipe be inside the frame - as per AMC frames - closely fitted to the timing case which had a piece cut out for the purpose? I've not checked old pics so maybe that's wrong, but it dosent appear to be tucked in properly. Also, I wonder how functional that gear linkage is? Perhaps its paraded rather than raced, if so this would also account for the radically raised and, I think, horrible looking saddle. Is/was someone in Australia building these?
GD66
Mike Farrell, the Queensland engineer who did so much to facilitate Sheeney's return to racing in classic ranks, had one for a couple of seasons, but I'm pretty sure he bought the chassis from the USA. The bike's now owned by Ron Angel and ridden by ex-Kim Newcombe wrench Rod Tingate, a fine rider and fabricator in his own right. To my knowledge, McIntyre replicas aren't being built in Oz. Looks like a parader, it'd be of interest to know who IG is, as the G50 in the background appears to have Paddy Driver plates on.
Henry Snee
As far as I am aware, IG is Ian Groat who runs the SA based Team In-complete. Ian and John Boswell have built a number of classic bikes. Here's a selection of their handywork.

13 is Pete Labuschagne on the Paddy Driver G50 (Paddy was injured and unable to ride at the weekend), JG is Jimmie Guthrie (son of the Jimmie Guthrie and a Manx GP winner in his own right), IG is Ian Groat and tucked in behind is EC (Errol Cowan) on a Ducati. All these are from the Team In-Complete stable.
GD66
Nice work, HS, query sorted. A likely looking bunch, as well.... cool.gif
picblanc
Originally posted by Henry Snee
As far as I am aware, IG is Ian Groat who runs the SA based Team In-complete. Ian and John Boswell have built a number of classic bikes. Here's a selection of their handywork.

13 is Pete Labuschagne on the Paddy Driver G50 (Paddy was injured and unable to ride at the weekend), JG is Jimmie Guthrie (son of the Jimmie Guthrie and a Manx GP winner in his own right), IG is Ian Groat and tucked in behind is EC (Errol Cowan) on a Ducati. All these are from the Team In-Complete stable.


Smashing pic David, Peter Labuschagne a well known name from UK racing in the 1970's. wave.gif
Russell Burrows


Go to be up there in the unusual pics stakes? Very rare bike too.....
picblanc
Originally posted by Russell Burrows


Go to be up there in the unusual pics stakes? Very rare bike too.....


Blimey!! its a Ducati but... eek.gif Good on him though! up.gif
GD66
Really? Must be one of those special, Aermacchi-replica, horizontal-cylinder Ducatis, then....
larryd
It's a Drixton Aermacchi and the rider is Swiss, I think - the name Alex Meyer comes to mind, but I'm not sure . . . . . . . . . .

Hillclimb photo, I believe

confused.gif
Russell Burrows
Originally posted by larryd
[B]Not Sulby Bridge - by the time you're on the bridge you're upright and straight, and there's no way you're that close to the right hand side of the road.

Stick with QB!
[/B]




Mmmm......As you cross Sulby the wall and trees are closer to the pavement. Also, forty years ago on a 40-50 bhp trundler you didnt need to be much beyond the centre of the road as you lined up Ginger Hall ? I think it could well be Sulby Bridge.
Russell Burrows
Originally posted by Russell Burrows


Go to be up there in the unusual pics stakes? Very rare bike too.....


It is a Drixton Aermacchi but the gutsy guy riding it is German Peter Mey, Misano, 1984. I wonder if he did clutchless changes both ways?
picblanc
Originally posted by GD66
Really? Must be one of those special, Aermacchi-replica, horizontal-cylinder Ducatis, then....


Yes that was the one! blush.gif tongue.gif
Russell Burrows
This is well of topic (on the car threads they take a very dim view of this), but on the off chance that some of you are cricket fans - does anyone recall the name of the one armed Pakistani test cricketer from the 1980's? I've tried Google but nothing.....I didnt dream this did I ?
picblanc
Originally posted by Russell Burrows
This is well of topic (on the car threads they take a very dim view of this), but on the off chance that some of you are cricket fans - does anyone recall the name of the one armed Pakistanti test cricketer from the 1980's? I've tried Google but nothing.....I didnt dream this did I ?


Imran Wanarme?
Russell Burrows
No Gra, that wasnt him....I suspect though that you have some further suggestions ?
Russell Burrows
Oh, go on, you know you want to.....
picblanc
Originally posted by Russell Burrows
No Gra, that wasnt him....I suspect though that you have some further suggestions ?


lol.gif blush.gif blush.gif
knickerbrook
Hi Larry and Russ wave.gif

You made a very good point about the line exiting Sulby Bridge Larry, so now I'm not so sure! Yet of all the shots there have been of Quarter Bridge, I cannot recall seeing one from that angle? (But I'm sure someone will now post one!).
Russell Burrows
Barry, I bow to your far greater knowledge on this.... up.gif
knickerbrook
Steady on Russ blush.gif - I haven't been to the island since 1981 and many brain cells have been lost since then!

Say Dennis (or anyone), what do you reckon - Sulby Bridge, Quarter Bridge or somewhere else?
picblanc
Originally posted by dusker
Hello Henry,
I used a clutch like that one, it was on an Albion 5 speed box, that I had on Manx, before Beart removed it and replaced it with an AMC.

I wonder if anyone knows what bike this is, where it is and who it is?



This pic has different Coping stones to the colour pic, (yes I am an expert on coping stones!) But not on Aermacchi/Ducati thingy's!! tongue.gif
picblanc
The colour pic has a flint/cobbled wall the B/W is a stone wall.
Russell Burrows
Some telling evidence there Graham.... Could the guy on the special be exiting Bradden Bridge ?
picblanc
Originally posted by Russell Burrows
Some telling evidence there Graham.... Could the guy on the special be exiting Bradden Bridge ?


Dont think its Braddan, I have just looked at some pics no large coping stone on the wall at Braddan.
Could it be on the exit of Governors Bridge, the last bend before start finish? there appear to be faces in the B/W pic?

Faces could be an optical illusion? :\
exclubracer
Originally posted by picblanc


This pic has different Coping stones to the colour pic, (yes I am an expert on coping stones!) But not on Aermacchi/Ducati thingy's!! tongue.gif


Exiting a right hander....ergo (best guess/es)

1 Union Mills
2 Glen Vine
3 Ballacraine

Waiting with baited breath to be shot down in flames.....
ex Rhodie racer
Originally posted by Russell Burrows


Go to be up there in the unusual pics stakes? Very rare bike too.....


Golly gee, they didn´t half breed them ´ard in the day, did they. lol.gif
Tank slappers? don´t mention the word. eek.gif rolleyes.gif lol.gif
ex Rhodie racer
Originally posted by dusker
Hello Henry,
I used a clutch like that one, it was on an Albion 5 speed box, that I had on Manx, before Beart removed it and replaced it with an AMC.

I wonder if anyone knows what bike this is, where it is and who it is?


I´ve got a feeling it could be entering Glencutchery Road, after the dip, after Govenors, before the start/finish ;) tongue.gif wave.gif
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