Good stuff Nigel, always plenty to perve at in the pits at Puke, and doesn't that lineup of 3TAs cause a double-take when you spot them in the tent. Incidentally the indecently-quick #88 Norton piloted by young Sam Smith is in fact the Peter Lodge -built ES2, which has raised many eyebrows and ruined many Manx riders' day, such is its' pace....

Well Done larry, it is Stanley at a Monza event organised by 'Motorcyling' in Setember 1955, some sixteen years after he retired and when he must have been in his early fifties. He seems to have enjoyed himself as the article says the Gilera was pulling 9,800 in top gear, about 150 mph. And well done you other blokes too.

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Fellas, who are the guys gunning it out of La Source ?

Minter, Rob Fitton, Paddy Driver, Marsovsky, Chris Conn and Ian Burne.

Good stab GD but only five out of six......

Well we know 6, 16 and 44.
Is the #10 Paddy Driver?
#50 Godfrey Nash?
#38 Chris Con?

Just a wild guess actually.

Same score for you Rhodie.....

OK, it's the #50 then. Let's go, Rhodie ! Billie Nelson.

Fraid not.....

Mmmmmmmmm riders with 'Peel Mountain Mile' fairings I guess ??

Fred Stevens?

Mike Duff ???

Alan Shepherd

Hmmm, I think Gripper's grabbed it....

That´s who I was going to say, but I just didn´t want to be wrong, AGAIN.
I know I´m going to kick myself when Russ spills the beans, because I´ve seen rider and bike somewhere before, but I can´t seem to open the brain cell it´s locked in.

We won't find out until he's finished frothing over the Aermacchi over on the 1990 thread....

Might have caused him to pass out

Is number 50 Lewis Young?

All good honest endevour boys but fraid not.....here he is later.

Is someone going to challenge this, cos I'm now not sure myself. Cooper had one of those big peel fairings fitted around this time but......I have to confess I posted the pic before looking too closely at the second. Oh gawd, I have ballsed up big style?

I love it.


I think the lad we are looking for is on the extreme left of the pic. Peel fairing and trailing right foot. Looks like moon eyes fell off before that first pic was snapped, as with him, there would have been 7 in the shot.
I will be forced to undertake a trip to the attic if no one can solve this.

If memory serves, when Cooper wore a peel fairing I think it was plain white. Another GP regular not yet mentioned was Jack Ahearn, but I think his "peel" was a dark colour so it won't be him. Didn't Derek Woodman ride a G50 around that time?

Well observed there Rhodie! Looks like a G50 to me (not Woodman though). The Matchless wears a high-level pipe a lot lower than the Manx - and that seat is more G50 than Manx I reckon! I'm thinking Stevens or Young?

As I'm metaphorically in the stocks, I'm loathe to say anymore but...... I have a coloured picture of him somewhere with a white Peel with a red stripe, as per the earlier picture.

Mental note to self: put brain into gear before posting.

Nah, bugger that. Why start now, mate ? I never do....

Yes Russ You know what i'm going to say ;)

It's the naughty chair for you

I'm consoling myself with the thought that I was multi tasking at the time, and as I'm a bloke......

Rhodie, If you think you may have the programme for Spa '65, would very much appreciate it if you dug it out.

Aplogies again chaps.

Does the original pic with Minter looking over his shoulder not mention the cast, Russell ? Good to see a pic of this vintage get a few punters out of the trees for a shot, as well. Keep em coming, and as I mentioned before, if you've got any more Francis Beart stuff.....

No 50 Tony Godfrey?

A nice big picture for you experts to tell me about the bike, I know it Joe!

Just read on the other forum that Russell likes Aermacchi's

Enjoy!

No sorry Russ. I thought I might have had a magazine with the race report in though, but if I have, I can´t find it. I´m sure someone will come up with something. I personally think someone has mentioned the correct rider already when we were all having a stab, but who?

Nice pics. I met Dave Degens a couple of years ago, popped around to his house to get him to sign a photo. He's a cagey sort of bloke, a bit difficult to get information out of him. Is the Dresda business still going I wonder?

I saw him racing at Cadwell a few years ago.

He was still winning then, probably more so than he did in his youth. Strange thing is the fast men never seem to lose it, look at Bob Heath he was never a regular winner in his works BSA days, then in his "old age" he was almost unbeatable at the TT. Oh yes and there was a man called Mike.

http://www.dresda.co.uk/

Just found this 1965 ish

That last shot brings back memories i use to live not far from Brands and was taken there a lot by my Grandad . Seeing the likes of Degens,Minter,Ivy,Read,Redman,Hailwood and the chair riders Colin Seeley, the Bodices's Bill & Mick, Chris Vincent, Pip Harris, and one Owen Greenwood.



Pete

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New on here so i have an excuse if i am wrong! Number 50-Fred Stevens,who came 5th.

Welcome to the site Oilman. That´s three votes for Fred Stevens, so maybe you´re right.

Hello there Oilman welcome to the forum hope you will enjoy the experience :yawn: :yawn: :yawn:

Beautiful shot Classic, Joe gunning it out of the hairpin at Mallory - 350 Manx with Fontana front brake. I dont think its one of 'Frank' Beart's bikes......cos it doesnt look like one and around that time they appeared only on the Island and other big races such as the Ulster GP ? Looks like Joe's gold/copper painted Manx.

Thanks classic.

Milani on the factory bike ? Then Degens and Steve Jolly on the Mettise framed Higley bike.

No, only that Minter was third behind Hailwood and Ago.

Isn't it Bergamonti on the factory 'Macchi ? .......at Keppel Gate.... ?

Ooo er.. not at the top of my game at the moment.... Little guy, gold and white helmet - not Gilberto?

Hmmm...actually the 'R' sticker on the helmet does indicate a leaning your way, Russell. I blew up the pic (ripper, btw) and thought the signature looked like Bergamonti's, is all. ISTR Cycle mag had a cover shot of Milani at the TT years ago, and upon reflection, the helmet.... sorry to alarm, you must be a little twitchy...

Er,...a little. I'm still on te hunt for that Copper photgraph, if only to satisfy myself that I haven't imagined it.

My copy of Motor Cyclist Illustrated August 1965 has the result as----Hailwood,Agostini,Minter,Driver,Stevens,Marsovszky,Conn,Burne.

Welcome aboard Oilman - glad you were able to sort out the puzzle for us!
Well done Gripper you were right on the money!

Now that we've got the taste for it - anyone got any more?
(Hey Russell - watch out for bats in that attic and don't come down untill you've found that Cooper picture!).

Oh well, with Russ up in the attic fighting off the bats, I´ll keep us amused with a very easy WWW.




I love this shot. Glorious machine, great style, and captures the very essence of works involvement in GP racing in the late fifties.
Note the withdrawn clutch.

Liberto Liberati?

Libero Liberati cranking the Gilera into what looks to be La Source, 1957. The year he won the 500 title. He was later killed in a car crash?, about 1962.