Correct Renn. I allways marvelled at the performance of that machine Isle of Man TT F/L 94 mph with race average 92mph in 1954.

As you know, they had a power output of around 36 hp and the roadholding must have been okay, too. The MV 250 of ' 60 (Hocking, Ubialli) had 2-3 hp more, so they would have had quite a basis for the years after '54....
Do you know that these 3 small oval holes in the reverse cone added another hp ?

BTW, where were this pictures taken ?

Thinking of the TT races in '54, one has to admire IMHO Rupert Hollaus, who was a newcomer and he had to learn the Clypse course (where he won) and the Mountain circuit (finishing 2nd and lapping over 90 mph) as well

..Great sidecar pic - the driver/passenger relationship has to be good..!

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Yendor
[B]Another couple of "three wheeler" pics I've come across, well three actually



34, TSS Bultaco? looks more than a bit like Eric Hinton ?

Good morning mates,

not so obvious though, please give us a hint, Yendor

Hi Renn, It's Bill Boddice with son Mick behind who began racing one of the old man's outfits age sixteen, I think at Brands.

Blimey, titanium arse-sliders!!

What will they think of next?

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Thanks Russ.

Bill's daughter (or one of them, don't know) was married to Dave Simmonds... no stunning news, I guess, but what springs to my mind anyway....

Sparkling performance, isn't it

Any offers on this gentlemen?

L to R

Hobl (DKW) Campbell (?) (Guzzi), Lomas (Guzzi), Surtees (MV)
and a Jawa in the 2nd row

Dutch TT '56

Almost a perfect score, although its pretty much impossible to distinguish Campbell from the actual rider, Kavanagh. I've not seen many shots of the Jawa from this period...wonder why they didn't use a dustbin? It's the '56 Dutch TT, which Lomas won.

Gentlemen

Just a short note to thank you all for making this the most popular thread in the Nostalgia Forum. Puts those car boys to shame. It's a real pleasure to see pics of bikes and riders from 'my' era on here and I've learned so much too.

Oh, not forgetting this amazing thread - 1962-1983: the years of fast racing 'mopeds'!

Paul

There is still one missing...the chap in the overall close to Surtees is Vittorio Carrano, not as prominent as Magni was or is, but staying in the MV squad for at least the most of the era. (Chief Mec for SMBH)

The Jawa was a rolling testbed in these times, I guess...

Well Paul, its thanks to you too mate! you got the original 15000 thread started, and this thread and the "New" 1969-90 one have grown from that, and now us bike sport fans have really!! high jacked the car boys forum!

Thanks a lot, Paul

On my behalf, I'm just putting down silly comments in a non-native language (fighting with prepositions ) , you know I'm the guy with world-champ potential if ever had had the chance to prove but always stood on the other side of the fence....

Yes, there's some wonderfully detailed knowledge imparted on here....eg, Rennmax's latest but one post

Paul, I´ve always seen this, and the other M/C threads, as more than just a bit of fun and camaraderie. It serves an important function in that facts can be presented and checked by those of us who were actually there, and will serve as an excellent reference point in years to come.
There are so many people out there with so much knowledge of the sport, that, sadly, won´t always be with us. It´s important they share their knowledge I think, so that future generations have a sense of history, without which, the sport would be all the poorer.
Thank you all for your great contributions.

Good point Rhodes, not viewed it like that! :\

Oi! As a fan of four wheels firstly, but a frequent visitor to the bike forums, I must say it is always a friendly and fun place to visit, even someone with such a poor knowledge of the bike world, heck, I even get some of the Brands questions wrong I think Graham deserves a lot of credit for raiding his photo store....I am going to start a book on him depleting his collection soon, any takers?

I just love Graham's photos of "my old Brands", anything really pre 1970, be they of cars, bikes, or just the empty track, the stuff of dreams

Yes, of course Sterling, I'll second that, although he knows we all appreciate his great pics.

but of course I am normally found on the younger persons thread!
But I must say as regards the pics on here just lately have been fantastic! (not to say that those gone before have not been also, they have!!) thanks to all who post pics from this era!

That'll be Julie , Renn ,she used to scrutineer at the TT IIRC

No prizes for getting the Gilera jockey...what about the guy behind on the bike with the green fairing? Have to say, I'm only about 80% on this myself. Perhaps a bit more ;)

Spa '57

LL on Gilera, a Guzzi rider behind, is Campbell ok this time ??

Yes, Renn, I agree with everything except the Guzzi pilot. I'm 99.99% it isn't Campbell.......

WWW

And another Think we may have already had him today but hey ho where is he?

Mike Hailwood, testing? Jurby Airfield?

Ralph Bryans, Dundrod '66, Honda 125 5-cylinder

Right man wrong place ;)

Right on all counts

He is here and here .

What a marvellous piece of engineering this Honda engine is....reving up to 20 000 rpm or something like that
Luigi Taveri still has his w/c winning bike of '66, too precious to be ridden

Yes, I think.... If it's Keith Bryen ? at the Norisring? Ah so, Rennmax found the origin of your pic..... unfortunately, I cant read German. A good rider who had his chance too late.

Honda RC149, 5 cylinder fourstroke, 1966.

Yes, he is...

What about the 2 other gents ? I'm sure you know the 3rd (right one), the left is a tough one...

And yes again, it is the Norisring and should be '57 as well. The arcade on top of the tribune is still standing in this shot, was demolished in the sixties


BTW, I enjoy these pics / movies of garlanding in these days. Can't stand that foolish champagne spraying

Is it one of the Hinton brothers...Harry Junior ?

The records show Eric Hinton, can't evaluate that though...

Norisring, July 21st 1957 - 350 Race.

Keith Bryen won it, a Swedish rider V Lundberg (left in picture) was 2nd and Eric Hinton (on the right) was 3rd - all on Nortons.

Enrico Lorenzetti led initially on a Guzzi, but dropped out.

If you could please ignore the fact that I'm in this one who else is there?

Little Bill, 88, Jim Russell or is it Ron Pladys?

Anyone know this cheeky chappy?
More often seen on smaller capacity machine I think!

Dave Simmonds?

Grant Gibson - I think ?

No sorry Mr Fu

Sorry Russell not Grant

Is it John Samways , Rod ??

Hailwood Castle Combe