Did he work together with Dr Gordon Blair ?


The mufflers are scratched, too ... he was obviously testing the ground clearance

Yes, but haven't read the bit in the Seeley book on that yet.....

7R pic: all ten stone six of me.

The translation .......Link.

Not on the same subject, but has anybody got a good picture of the Ecurie Sportive logo as used by Mike Hailwood when he was a privateer?

Any good?

Looks pretty good to me Russ

Morning gents. The logo is a bit obscured, but it looks a bit different to the one in your pic Russ. Probably an earlier version? Coulds be my eyes though.

Good morning Rhodie,

just to satisfy my curiosity.... is the other one Dave Chadwick ?

Wonder why they didn't use fairings as late as 1960 ??

Fine shot, Russ....Oldani front brake ?.....give us some background info of your racing activities please.. the 7R is now exposed in your living room, I guess....

Thanks for Ecurie Sportive pictures, could still do with a clear shot and possibly in colour, but impressed how quick was reply.

i believe it also had the logo *for love of the sport* underneath the badge?

Right chaps anyone like to have a go at this one, I think i know the answer

That's an interesting shot Rhodie, Hailwood's first trip to SA, astride the NSU (which model Renn? ) I too think that's Dave Chadwick on the Manx. Is the logo on the side of the van ? Or maybe some sort of Union style banner ! And did they really take an old van from England down to SA , or was the picture taken later back in Blighty? There seemed to be various forms of the Ecurie Sportive insignia ; I don't think though that 'Ive ever seen the more elaborate one with wheel and all the stuff on the siide of a fairing?

23 is reg Reg Everett on his home made Greeves racer - foreunner of the Silverstone. 11 could well be Alan Pavey on his NSU.

It's taken at the Manx GP Renn, where fairings were not allowed until 1962.

the Sportmax, of course....the production racer on which HP Müller scored the worldchampionship in '55...

doesn't Jan Kostwinder claim that he has the original SMBH bike ?

Thanks for enlightenment, Russ

I so wish I did have the 7R Renn. I have tried to trace it, if only to find out more about its history...engine frame /number 4732, '61 model, and yes, last seen with that lovely Oldani front brake. My racing - I got the one way ticket to Palookaville without ever having been a contender. cry:

Thanks for Ecurie Sportive pictures, could still do with a clear shot and possibly in colour, but impressed how quick was reply.

There might be some coloured shots on the Hailwood website? Are you recreating one of his bikes?

Get those knees in....

Old Gerhard must have been something of a fast talker/ wheeler dealer ?

Yes, that is Dave on the Manx. I´m almost positive the shot was taken in Port Elizabeth, the scene of the PE 200, although I can´t say whether the van is English or was aquired in SA. The logo was definitely sign written on the side of the van. Quite possibly it was shipped over with everything needed for the trip packed in the van. Remember, those were the days of ocean travel, unlike today, where only air freight is used. If Stan had aquired the vehicle in SA, he would have had it specially painted for the occasion, however, the former explaination is the one I would favour.
Renso, you can just make out the words, "for love of....... next to Mike´s right arm. So yes, "for love of the sport" was their moto.

....and there was another motto.... "NIL DESPERANDUM" written on the arrow across the wheel in that logo...means something like "never become desperate", as far as my latin knowledge is still existent...

Whose was nil carborundum illegitimi ?

well, he didn't arrive out of nowwhere....we was the German champ in the 350 cc class in '68 on a Honda CR77 (didn't know there was one, can only remember the very rare CR72)....but he was probably a little more "flamboyant" than his rivals...but I can't get over the price he had to pay for the Honda six...if there is one around for twice the price of a firebalde, pls notify me ....

that's what Nero said after he inflamed Rome

Mike "the Bike" Hailwood, Dutch TT Assen 1961:





copyright Drents Archief

While we're on a Hailwood theme - this one is quite interesting. And the fairing in the backround seems to show a variation of the Ecurie wotsit....?

is it a coincidence/ but the old consul in the background has almost all his initials(smbh)
weird.

The pic I think is the late 50's, so could be his I suppose.....? I remember seeing him in the very early sixties with an E type Jag, and usually a well built young woman with him. No wonder I wanted to be him.......

What beautiful shots these are....... And was there ever a more aesthetically pleasing - and probably more effective - fairing than those Peels.

Whereas this one a decade later is damn ugly ?

Derek Woodmann on a Seeley on the IOM..

I think this type of fairing covering the handlebars and thus hands were quite convenient, esp in British weather...

Weren't they a QuB/Gordon Blair designed fairing, Russell ? The answer may lie in the book...

who is the gent on the right side ?

Umberto Masetti

Too easy ...

The Peel type fairings obviously had a larger frontal area, and this apprently is a bad things in terms of slipperyness through the air, but so many slimmer, ie small frontal area fairings, exposed large parts of the rider outside of the fairing, ergo, can't work properly......?
This was surely most apparent from the early seventies -what was that all about ?

Sorry I'm posting this now but i'm not able to post it on Monday 23rd March.

We'll never forget our Mike

Nicely done CP and thanks

Yep. CP times fly don't they how very sad

7R engine in a Manx frame gents.....well I thought it was quite interesting.

Good morning gents,

now that you mentioned it, Russ ...


finally I understand Mike's gesture of exposing the bike's engine to the camera....

Not recreating a bike , but a transporter . So still need a good colour side shot if anybody has one.
Thanks,Tony.

SMH 119 ~ Stanley Michael Hailwood!

The Hailwood's are likely to have something on that ?

Morgen, Apparently thought of as a lightweight bike......lots of holes drilled all over the place.