Thanks Arthur, did you do the Island that year? Are you sure Shepperd got an MV ride at the TT? Im rabbitting on here without checking the database...

Really ? News to me.... the iomtt.com database has Shepherd with dnfs in 1963 Senior and Junior TTs, on G50 and 7R. I understood Shepherd tested an MV but never raced one.

That's right GD it was either 62 or 63 that he stepped off the G50 at Bradden Bridge after lapping mucho quickly. I think he tested at Monza in '63, allegedly overevved it and got the flick.

Hey Rhodie, Len Carcary called me today to confirm that it is Alan Harris but also to say that your memory's a little off! Alan's nickname was "Buddy". His brother Dave was "Squack" Harris.

He also noted that the guy on the left hand end is Jimmie Guthrie namesake of the famous one.

Jeez, Maridadi, I never claimed to be perfect

Alan "Buddy" Harris, brother of Dave "Squack" Harris ( ), in action in 1969, Salisbury, Rhodesia, aboard his TR 2 Yammy.

Your right Russell Alan Sheperd was a DNF on a Matchless G50.However he was entered in the official programme on a Privat 4 cylinder 498cc MV alongside Mike Hailwood. I guess the MV ride did'nt materilise.No did not do the island that year my first year being 1964 and that was a diaster like all my island races except 1964 was a bigger one than the rest

Hi Arthur, that lovely Guzzi had problems? What a shame Shepperd didnt get that ride - brillant rider, but such an unlucky sod.

Hi,
I did not realise that Alan Harris rode yamahas, I remember him on the very quick 500 Velo and assumed he had retired when he went back to Rhodesia.

I did have my doubts on the Squack nickname for Alan, I remember my Dad offering Squack ( Dave )a ride on the Nortons circa 63 and was all going ahead until Squack broke his leg and he could not take up the ride. I wonder if recalls that i sure he will as the Aldridge Nortons was one of the best bikes to be on at that time.

Peter

Hi Russell That Guzzi certainly did give me problems the 2 years I used it in the island 1964 in the 3rd and final practise sesion it threw a conrod at the end of mountain mile and the rod buried itself into the crankcase locking the whole thing up and tossing me over the bars. Not that I knew anything about it untill I woke up 2 days later in Ramsey hospital.
The next year 1965 it broke a valve spring coming down to the Greg on the 3rd lap of race Had hairpin type springs so I decided to retire rather than risk wrecking engine if other spring broke.
It was the days of racing on a shoestring for most of us and the machines were nowhere near as reliable in those days as they are now.

Blimey Arthur.... I think you have previously said it was ex Trevor Barnes and/or Arthur Wheeler....so a factory connection? Didn't the CR110 also lock up on Bray Hill?

Just to jog the old memory, here is a piccy of Dave "Squack" Harris.

Here you go chaps, this one is right up your street, new thread posted
http://forums.autosport.com/index.php?showtopic=109312
Great photos.

Was blatting through an old Classic Racer mag (Spring 1993, with the blue JPS Nortons on the front), when I spotted a small article where this pic was the crux of a name-the-riders competition. A reader had sent in the programme of Sachsenring 1963, and so to tidy it all up, the mystery rider on the #6 Norton is Gyorgy Kurucz. Roy Ingram and Ian Burne have been cropped out of the pic to the left.

This is a strange sort of WWW,cos I don't have the riders name and only a rough idea where and when.It is in Oz though.
More of a curiosity really
HW

Blimey Herr, post war Scott with what look like Norton forks? Not a clue where in Oz though, although the girls are wearing thier overcoats, so not summer - Bathurst ?

Got the B bit right Russell,
HW

no big www deal, just a wake-up call for this thread...

Yes Renn, thee thread........Cecil about to leap aboard the DKW - is it Ireland? Excellent shot

Yes Renn , as Russ quite rightly says what a great period shot Just look at the spectators , the guy with the Cromwell and camera I reckon it's Mr Fu / George Or is it a deerstalker on his head ??

Wow what a shot! Are they squaddies on the left? Might well be Ireland. There's a guy wearing an army surplus greatcoat too, same as my first riding gear as a hard-up 16 year old!
I'm just getting into ally forming and the fairing and tank are just brilliant! A bit before my time but was this Cecil born just outside Moreton-in-the Marsh?

David

http://www.iomtoday.co.im/tt/Peter-William...hind.5321529.jp

good news that he seems to be reasonably well, although I would prefer he was preparing a Tom Arter G50 instead....

Arter 7R, '69. Such a talented rider/designer/engineer.

COLOR pictures from TT-Assen 1964 ...... Link.

very nice pics Ton

Thanks very much for the link , some interesting transporters , and colour pics of the machines , which seems to be very rare from those days.

Wonder what he would achieved with a engine not so , let's say.... venerable as the Norton pushrod twin ?
can recall quite clearly when both he and Mick Grant on a Kawa accelerated at the exit of Quarter bridge in 74 and the resulting gap....

Yes Renn, that the Norton was competitive at all was largely down to him. He should have been snapped up in the late sixties as a factory rider for someone or other : MV; Benelli; Jawa - no, not Jawa......

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0vkBr8rA-bU

I've never been to Olivers Mount, but I would imagine not too many crashes occur at this spot; seized gearbox ? broken conrod?........?

Russell,I saw Jim Whitham get off his GSXR750 in his 'formative' years (I think Grunty was the team boss) at the same spot.They chucked the the bike into the recovery van in 2 separate lumps.He limped away.
Also I think thats the the same spot that Barry Scully looped his Trident at in the early '70s.He broke his back though.
HW
The 40s Scott photo was taken at Ballarat BTW

Thanks Herr Do you have some Aussie connection?

Ist pic: I think 3 is Bert Schnieder and 1 Hugh Anderson? The Honda and Yamaha guys are less easily remembered Japanese - Motohasi perhaps on the Yam? Nice shots though- got anymore?

Sure Hugh Anderson.

Posted a link for 1208 TT Assen pictures some time ago, some are in color .............. Click

Pictures from 1970 and later on Drents Archief in a few weeks time. (my period)

The Aussi connection was my dear departed brother,who lived in W.A. for 35 years,ending up in Albany for his retirement(which he never got to enjoy.)
Got some Dijon piccies here.Count the pipes on that MV!

Thanks Herr, which one of these would you have liked to take home?

Some real exotic stuff there,but I guess it would be a close thing between the 'Rayborn' HD,or either of the 2 Guzzi singles.And I reckon it would be a Guzzi in the end.Just perfect,and the sound,well......
Although seeing Bonera showing exactly how an MV should be ridden was something else also.
HW

Honda Racing 50th Anniversary ....... Link

Great pics, Herr

Just one thing though, I think the machine above ( which has been raced in France by Philippe Monneret, among others ) is more meant to be a replica of the 1100cc "Lucifer's Hammer" machine that was ridden in the BoT races at Daytona by Jay Springsteen sometimes in the 90's , rather than a replica of the Rayborn-era 750cc XRTT .

.....but I've been mistaken before !

Yeah, me too, you just know the Guzzi handles like a racing motorcyle - so beautiful too.

If you've got 32.000 Euros to spend, I think it's the same bike for sale by Hubert Rigal's company here :
http://www.classic-motorbikes.com/stock.as...A28&Lang=en

It does seem that unlike what I had written, both the original 1983 "Lucifer's Hammer" and this french replica are heavily based on original XRTT parts , including the lower engine ..... mea culpa !

edit 2 : after a closer look, not the same machine - the Dijon one looks more like a Hd Sportster - based "café-racer" .....oh well

This is the one that does it for me personally. That fairing is a work of art.
They weren´t the best handleing cycles, but boy, they were really rapid.

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The Aussi connection was my dear departed brother,who lived in W.A. for 35 years,ending up in Albany for his retirement(which he never got to enjoy.)
Got some Dijon piccies here.Count the pipes on that MV!
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That second pic, of Lucio Castelli's MV 350 - 6, shows (barely) what I was gibbering about when it came up recently, Russell, two steering heads, one welded in front of the other, apparently for testing purposes re wheelbase, steering head angle etc....

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Hello Herr Wankel,
pity we did not meet !
This beautiful H1R is the ex Apietto, beautifully restaured by Jean-François Baldé

Henri-Michel we did meet.I'm the one with the Aussi hat, Daytona T shirt and miserable expression The disguise must have worked.
I don't doubt the Harley was a rep. and it did have a phone number inside the screen(for sale?)A nice rep.though.
I find it difficult to get too excited by Harleys but this one was ok.
Rhodie I know what you you mean about the Kwak.They certainly sharpened your clutch hand reflexes I reckon.

Another nice H-D if a little out of context.(and focus)
HW

I shall be watching these again at the PeoriaTT and the Springfield Mile this year, great to see with Cliff Carr on board, real elbow banging stuff. They use modern stuff these days at Peoria so the vintage race is the one to go for. I'll see if I can get some pics to post when I go.


David

Blimey, he was lucky to get away with that, it's flat out there.

Looked like a gearbox lock-up, no smoke from a blown motor but laid a long 'darkie' so pulling the clutch in made no difference.

Your worst nightmare come true at a place like that.

Oi !!! Oi !!! O!!! Mr Fu sent you a message yesterday.......................................

OI!!!!

Get a room you two !!!

Only joking!!

You jealous Mick ?? ---i'll send you his details ......................... --don't think you'll be to impressed