You did, thank you, didn't think that one needed a reply, sorry
Re 24th I was hoping to come on sat/sun? Dont have to have a day off that way.

Piece of ART!!!!!!!!

[quote name='Herr Wankel' date='Jun 3 2009, 17:28' post='3673909']
Russell,I saw Jim Whitham get off his GSXR750 in his 'formative' years (I think Grunty was the team boss) at the same spot.They chucked the the bike into the recovery van in 2 separate lumps.He limped away.
Also I think thats the the same spot that Barry Scully looped his Trident at in the early '70s.He broke his back though.
HW
The 40s Scott photo was taken at Ballarat


Heres the Olivers mount website.Click on Cock of the North 1974 to see Barry Scully BEFORE he got it wrong.
www.oliversmount.com

You not impressed, Stu?

re AWO... production started in 1950 based on the pre war BMW R 23 bikes.They prepared a race bike with that engine (with the crankshaft "inline" and a shaft drive) for '52 with a plunger frame and for '54 one with swinging arm.
In the following years, the engine was altered to a chain driven DOHC and finally they made a engine with conventionally positioned crankshaft and secondary chain drive.
The bikes in this pic look a lot like modified steet bikes, don't think they are the real mccoys....

Thanks a lot Renn,
I didn't know if they were proper race bikes or mods.They went quite well though and sounded the biz.I had a sneaky idea they were somehow connected to Simson,or would that only be because of the GDR regime?
HW

Hi Herr, yes in fact it's Simson after all...The company was founded by Loeb and Moses Simson around 1850, the family was dispossessed in '34 but at least they managed to get out of Germany in '36....in the immediate post war era the company was integrated in the Soviet Awtowelo (Awo) corporation, but around 1960 the bikes, in fact only mopeds then, were called Simson again...
Sorry gents for boring you with this piece of German history...

There is some info on the web about AWO, this one with nice racebikepics ...... Click

Renn,not boring at all.In fact I have more than a passing interest as I used to road race an MZ ISDT replica (GS250, 1974).Yes complete with 21" front wheel and wide bars,before Supermotos became the fashion.Thank god for Avon Speedmaster tyres.The old thing went like s..t off a shovel!
Cheers HW

Photo source unknown

sorry, on the contrary its bloody beautiful..as in a piece of art. Always loved them anyway

Not many current Enduro models with the fully enclosed rear drive chains, I am with you Stu a modern work of art.

Murray

WWW

Hi Renn, outfit guys....mid to late fities, Germany, Walter Schnieder in front of woman?

Yes Russ, that's correct.... it's a pic from a French GP, if this is of any help, so only 5 guys left to guess

M'mm... France aye, Jack Drion might be a good punt then - to Walter's left? Or is that Edgar Strubb?

Edgar Strub is correct Russ, the crew on the top of the rostrum is celebrating their first GP win and Edgar's passenger became very prominent (no it's not Mick Wollett )

Hilmar Cecco ?

No, the guy on the far right switched to car racing (now it's bloody easy, isn't it ?)

Jeez, can't remember- Jo Bonnier ....maybe not? Did some furious Gooling, still can't find him

It's the Swiss Joseph Siffert, who gained 2 F1 GP wins and also tamed the awesome Porsche 917...BTW, he started also in the TT on a Manx in the late fifties

Ah, it's all coming back to me.....

Clermont Ferrand / Charade ?

Yes 1959, on top the winners, left Fritz Scheidegger, right Horst Burkhardt.

Jo Siffert started in the Junior 1958 (350cc) TT retiring his Norton.

Jo Siffert, Swiss 350cc champion 1959 ................ Click

WWWake-up call

John Surtees on the right?

Surtees with Walter Zeller, around '56 ?

Perfect, Dutch TT '56

Roy Mayhew, Biggin Hill, late fifties. His daughter contacted me a while ago with a request for any info on her Dad's racing career, so if anyone can help, please get in touch.

WWW ?

A long shot Russell, but it looks not unlike John Surtees on a 7R...Brands, perhaps...?

Not a bad punt GD, all correct with the exception of the rider!

Drat ! Yeah, no idea, Russell...George Catlin ?

Love this one.

Les Graham , Junior TT 50

Well, I know this pic from Harris' TT book, I have to admit ....

Yes Renn, Les, startling the old boy reading his Daily Sketch as he passes through Kirk Michael? It must be 1950 ish as he's on the factory 7R.

Was that the strange 3 valve ( 1 in, 2 out) engine ?

Cartoon characters painted on crash helmets, sooo 1970's. I'm not sure who this MV pilot is - Colombo or Massetti after he defected to them ?

No Renn, that appeared a few years later.

Bremgarten ?

It's Masetti




I think Umberto was buried in his leathers...

The configuaration is correct ? There were 3 valve engines of course, IIRC the TTF1 winning Honda of Phil Read in '77 and even the roadgoing CB 400, but these bikes had 2 inlet, 1 outlet....

The 7R was the other way around, two inlet, one exhaust. The tripple cam motor was based on a 7R bottom end that underwent various mods, with the final version replacing the camshaft drive train with a vertical shaft and bevel gears.
It wasnt a great succsess, although Rod Coleman did win the Junior TT in '54 with it. Accordong to the blurb on it, it poked out 40 bhp....about 3-4 bhp more than 7R's of that period?

Otherwise known as one inlet, two exhaust .....

Thanks for clarification Russ

http://www.ajs-matchless.info/index2.php?o...ew&Itemid=6

quite pleasurable contemporary read for a 7R enthusiast

Luvly jubly, pump the tyres up now and again..... and just race it

One broken primary chain (coming out of Clearlways) was the cause of my one failure to finish a race on mine, and this was due to me fiddling with the olier.

Only drawback is a 20K plus GBP cheque you have to provide nowadays me thinks...

Not getting too many offers on this bloke.

Any hint please ?