Mr Minter I presume ?? Signpost Corner ? 1960 ?

Is the correct answer Well done , I thought the cop far left looked like a young Mr Fu

Minter finished fourth in the Junior behind Hartle, Surtees and McIntyre.

And a couple of days later became the first bloke to lap the Island at over the ton on a single....leaving McIntyre and Hailwood in his wake in the process, well until the bike broke

Thanks Russell,
Yes fil2.8 you are correct. That was the easy one.
Now who is sitting on my bike. On that day he was leading one W/C class and 3rd in another.
Let me know when you want to pics to end , there are a lot to go.
Roy

Kunimitsu Takahashi ??

Enjoy your pics very much Roy !!

Spot-on Rennmax, this shot was taken at The Nursery Hotel at Onchan which was the Honda HQ. On this day in June, 1962 'Tak' was leading the 125 W/C and was 3rd in the 50 W/C. The next day he had a horrendous crash at Union Mills on his 125 Honda, which finished his racing that year but he bounced back the next year in 125 and 250's for Honda before going car racing.
I saw him a few years ago giving out the trophies on the podium at the Japanese Motogp.
Roy

Hi Roy, nice little vid of the bike of the very early days...

http://world.honda.com/MotoGP/history/RC142RoadTest/


Re your CB 72, remember quite well all that prejudice when the bike came out over here, things like " too high revving, will never last" etc. What a giant step forward compared to a NSU Max or BMW R 27

You are right Rennmax, I ordered that CB72 before there were any in the country, from a pamphlet. Yes it was a 'Rice burner', 'Sewing M/C' and would not last, but I had the last laugh. Before this bike I had a BSA A50 500cc Shooting Star. The rice burner left it standing.
It was what I had seen in the IOM in 1959-60-61 sold me to the brand.
Roy

Yes Renn , I had a Yamaha YDS 2 road bike in 1963 , the first one around here , and the narrow minded chat I used to get , you know , ---- rice burners , jap. crap etc . etc by the owners of practically every other bike was unbelievable
The trouble is the same feeling still exists in some areas . I go to a fairly local pub where the local ' Britsh Motorcycle Club ' hold their meetings . They arrive , mostly in Japanese cars . A load of hypocritical bigots IMHO . Very , very blinkered people , to me , a biker is a biker

I have heard it all before, that is why the British bike industry died on its feet doing state of the art 'Badge Engineering''
There seems no takers for my third shot taken in 1962 at the back of the Nursery Hotel. It shows a Honda Rc162 250-4 being preped.
This was the first time I had ever seen a race bike started without being 'bumped'. On the stand, in gear and pull the rear wheel, bingo. We had a lot to learn.
More on the way.
Roy

All good stuff, Roy...please keep 'em coming. Were you connected to the trade, Honda or Hondis?

Hi Phil, I know that kind of hogwash of those narrow minded people, but mmmm...Harley Davidson (and some BMW) fans run in their own league, but I would never disrespect their choice ..
Anyway, the CB 72 had a power output of 25 hp, the before mentioned German Bikes had 18 hp... the CB72 was what NSU could have done by producing a roadgoing Rennmax, but the German market was literally dead in the early sixties

Roy's latest pics:

Gooseneck is very prominent in the last posts, Tommy Robb and Tom Phillis, 125 class in 62

Edit: 2nd pic Stastny or Havel (same helmet design) on a 350 Jawa

Nice read despite a PR article of course

http://world.honda.com/history/limitlessdr...nttrace/text01/

[quote name='Russell Burrows' date='Aug 23 2009, 18:35' post='3811161']

Hi Russ #1 Tommy Rob and Tom Phillis 2 b's on Rob
#2 Franka Stasny
#3 Fritz S and John Robinson

Looks like Fritz Scheidegger and John Robinson on the outfit

You beat me to it Phil

Did I ? you must have been out for the day

Who's bike. Where and When

Hi guys,
Sorry about the thumb nails, no idea why.
The top shot at the Gooseneck in the 125 1962 TT. This is interesting as it shows Tommy Robb on the works Honda Rc145 twin and the 1961 W/C Tom Phillis who is on a prototype production Honda twin. Honda brought prototype of 50, 125 and 250 twin production racers to test at the TT. Tom was to concentrate on the 250 title. Tommy Robb was 2nd in the 125 TT and Tom Phillis was third.
I do not have the model numbers for the 50/125/250 production models, any answers please.
The second Gooseneck shot was the the later 350 race showing Franta Stastny on his Jawa twin who came 3rd which he raced from 1960 to 1966. A great Czech rider fighting the faster MV's. Yes Gustav Havel was his team mate.
The s/c shot of Fritz Scheidegger with John Rawlings in the BMW chair was taken at Mallory Park in 1962. May have been the Race of the Year meeting.
Hope you liked them,
Roy

Very good photos Roy. Thankyou for sharing them

Yep , keep 'em coming please -------------------------- but don't spoil us , don't know how many you have

To be honest neither do I, I am hunting some negs of the 62 Ulster GP.
Roy

Yes Roy , since i've been a member of this great forum i've seen a lot of people come on , post a load of good pics quickly , and run out , i've nearly run out myself so now I limit me piccies , or post again after a long gap .
Or use cuttings

I think this forum is amazing that you guys are willing to share info and photos of our fantastic sport.
Does anyone have any programmes from the 1960 and 1962 TT and the 1962 Ulster GP, which haver racing numbers listed. I have a lot of shots I would like to ID please. I don't want to have them, just the numbers.
Thanks Roy

Roy, if you click on the picture they will come up much bigger.

These too are Roy's pics (sorry, technical hitch meant I deleted this note earlier).







He didn't have a particularly brilliant ride in this race; I havent checked but I think he finished only seventh, after having won a year ealier.

I immediatley thought Hailwood, 65, Sarah's Cottage....then re-thought: Hartle '68 - didnt he crash in practice and the race? So I'll go with Hartle.

Hi Roy,I have got copies of 1960 TT, 1962 TT and 1962 Ulster GP, please send me a message with the numbers you need. Gary

Hocking and Hailwood's go in the 1962 Junior TT at the Gooseneck, presumably after poor Tom Phillis had crashed (Hailwood leading): and Lutonboy in the same race.

Colin Seeley / Wally Rawlings
SMBH and Gary Hocking
And Lutonboy all '62 ??
All great pics again !!!!!

Spot on Rusell. John Hartle 1968 Senior. Fell on the first lap at Cronk-ny-Mona and sustained minor injuries.

And another. Sidecars popular today WWW

Fritz Hillebrand ??? ( spelling )

Not Fritz, Phil Sorry. Right Nationality though

Most of them were on L/H outfits Rod Cannot be arsed to dig deeper tonight -----still here though

Looks like a very young Max Duebel on a early Be'em sitter.

Mmmmmmmm also looks Russ , like the passenger is checking the time

Russell. You're on fire tonight. Correct 1960 sidecar TT on an ex Walter Schneider Rennsport

Walter Schneider???

Sorry for the delay. I cannot keep up with you guys.
All three shots at the Gooseneck in 1962 S/C and 350 TT.
Phil Read Norton came home 7th in the Junior. The interesting part of this shot is his fairing which Phil was marketing against the Peel fairings. He called it 'The SlimPhil' as it was quite narrow.
I had to include the shot of Mike the Bike No.3 leading Gary Hocking No. 6 on the MV's on the road, but not in the race. This shows two great riders in action. Mike won and Gary came 2nd.
Sadly I did not get a picture of Tom Phillis as he never got to the Gooseneck before his crash. Yes he was leading at the time. He and Bob Mac were on the Honda 285cc -4.
Colin Seeley with Wally Rawlings in the chair of the Matchless on their way to 3rd.
Enjoy,
Roy

Roys pics:

Howdo Russ Chris Vincent ??

What about this guy ? Also Roy's.

Hi Phil....too easy for a hot shot such as yourself.....

Hi Roy, 'The Slim Phil' , ever on the look out to make a quid...... I've seen other pictures of him in this race and he appears to have a number plate stuck to the front of the fairing ? All seems very strange. He didn't go too well in the race - any recollection as to why?

Otto Kolle..............TT '62