Attenberger/Schillinger in front of Enders/Engelhardt Assen 68... one week before their fatal crash in Spa

Sorry! Its not Peter Brown

Yes thats right Full marks Mr Rennmax Did Johann Attenberger cop it at Spa that same year??

I should read the posts first

Yes, just a week after this shot .. the wildest and fastest I've ever seen, including Fath....the pic captures their sheer determination

Reason I thought he was a Brit was a left hand chair, very unusual back in those days?
Gret photo!!

not your fault, I made an edit....

Hi Graham there were a couple of Germans (Attenberger, Luthringshauser, Linnarz, Butscher) in the sixities who preferred left hand chairs, in fact Luthringshaiser and Butscher started with right hand outfits before switching afterwards...and I can't remember any Swiss with a right hand chair

Hi Renn, OK I change to farely unusual for a European to have a lefty

I think a good reason for a left hand chair is that most circuits are run clockwise, instantly I can only remember the old Hockenheim circuit and Barcelona being run anticlockwise, hence a lefty was a certain advantage

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Rub it in Renn!!

Scheidegger on a right hand outfit give us some details please, if it's not a fake

Sorry Renn, look at my Avitar.

well, the starting number is still a correct "4", that puzzled me ... obviously I'm from the generation that believes pics are always telling the truth (with the exception of the retouched ones from the old boys behind the iron curtain )

Ok gang time for some solos I feel WWW

Tony Godfrey, Bill Ivy, Derek Minter, John Cooper, Griff Jenkins, Dunno!, Rex Butcher, Dunno? Last Dunno, Dave Degens?

Mr Zorro yes yes yes yes and no

No yes yes :clap yes : yes yes yes
Sorry , the ' Dunno ' twins were'nt at that meeting

Still waiting for # 52 to be identified

So am I!!

Think we've caught out Mr Zorro , Buster ( as well as you )

I have got no idea
Gary

Banbury Dan.

I'm sure Renn or Rhodie will know , plus others , so i'll let it run for a bit , but Sept 19 , 1965 , Brands

The fairground man is the right answer Well done Russ , me old chum

Try this then men WWW not to difficult I think

Tony Smith

Graham Milton and John Flaxman among some of our German cousins.....think its the Ring about 1970.....is that George Auerbacher in front of him ?

Yeeeeeeeeeeessssssssssss Well done again Russ , Race of the South , 1967

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14 Haubl & Gotz 11 Emrich & Emrich 20 Pape & Kellenberg 15 Klenk & Vell ??????????
Gary

Leaders are Linnarz/Kühnemund

WWW?

Good Evening Kel Carruthers 250 Benelli 4 1969. Don't know where

Yes...almost a full house - that dodgy Imatra circuit is the location.

Right then Franz Linnarz,Arsenius Butscher,Tony Wakefield,Sideways Sid,Heinz Luthringshauser
I admit to cheating

Good morning gents, RRT2 is correct, with Pip Harris (in his last season ?) in the background. 3 German left hand outfits in one pic. I think Arsenius Butscher is passengered by the late Aga Neumann, who became Ralf Engelhardt's wife. Ralf has been quite active in the classic scene on one of Klaus Enders' outfits, I think he even competed in the pre TT Billown event in the last couple of years.

A nice shot of.........

Robin Dawson on a 7R AJS in practice (no side number) for the 1962 Junior Manx Grand Prix, which he won.

That was the first year that streamlining was allowed in the Manx.

Top marks Larry, Robin on Tom Kirby's 7R at Ginger Hall. Could be prcatice or perhaps a trick of the light ? I think I read that he died about six or seven years ago. I know that afte winning the Junior he cantered around to fourth in the Senior and then retired from all racing.

Here you go chaps , take the bones out of this gem WWW

Don't think so, Russ - would have been black number on yellow b/ground.

92 Keith Heckles, 17 George Buchan?

Hairrpin, Mallory about 65/66. The bloke mucking about on the far right could be Martin Watson on the Aldridge Norton; 17 looks not unlike Roger Hunter on his own Manx after he left Tom Kirby.....The other blokes:- dunno.

Not white on blue?

Ralf has been running the ex-Enders outfit since before I first rode in the Pre-TT at Billown in 1999 on Hans-Otto Butenuth's 500 short stroke special and, as far as I know, we'll both be out there next year, and the year after etc etc.

A few years ago, he broke the crankshaft in the ohc Rennsport engine he was using, and got a new one made.

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He told me that the rebuilt engine now lives safely in his workshop - the outfit now has a Dieter Busch 860cc pushrod motor in.

Oh s**t - it was the Junior, wasn't it

Hmm - I was a bit hasty with George Buchan - unlikely to have been him at Mallory I suspect