You're right Barry , they're wrong , both i'm affraid

Well done Russ both correct
Race of the Year 1965
Any offers on the other 2 ??

Re number 62 - the name Swannack is ringing bells for some reason (a Ray or a Roy maybe?). A very long shot !

Such a long shot you missed Barry
I will say it's 2 chaps i've never heard of !! but they must surely have held international licences I think ??
Need a bit longer guys ???

I think you might have to tell us Phil....

A bit later at Mallory and some well known guys.........

ok Russ , will do named by ' Motor Cyclist Illustrated as -- initials only #62 C Burton , Matchless #92 C. G. Dixon Norton
Ever heard of 'em ??

There was Graham Dixon who, If I recall correctly, later rode a Macchi for Squadron Leader Stafford....Ray Oldam will know this as I think he did too. Probably not him though as he was racing in lower level meetings with the likes of me. Think he was C. G. though..... I suppose he could have retired and come back? Don't think I recall Burton.

Russell,

Hi. Your Mallory shot, 15 may be Tony Smith again, but not sure, then Percy Tait, John Cooper, Pat Mahoney (partly obscured), don't know the next two but the last in the photo could be Mick (?) Andrew on the Gus Khun Norton?

Graham Dixon used to race Aermacchis for Stafford up to about 72, also a TD1C in 1968, a Triumph Trident 3 'Slippery Sam' lookalike in Production races including the Island, and also partnered Mike Trimby in some endurance events on a TZ350. He still rides now, and has a Triumph Daytona. He also bought the Trident off Stafford back in the seventies but I'm not sure he still has it now. A really nice guy, he helped me out with some work on my own Aermacchi a few times too.

I believe Graham was the first rider Stafford supported. They both went to an Aermacchi test day, in 68 I think it would have been when Stafford was planning to get back into racing himself. Stafford found the Aermacchi a bit of a handful, and Graham flung one of the others up the road after some spirited riding. They had both been talking earlier, and when he saw Graham had to pay up for the damage, Stafford stepped in and bought the bike, telling Syd Lawton that Graham was going to ride it for him. I'm not sure he had even asked Graham first!! That's how Stafford got into sponsorship!

I last saw Graham a couple of years ago - you have reminded me I should get back in touch!

All the best

Ray

[quote name='Ray Oldam' date='Oct 11 2009, 16:14' post='3919626']
Russell,

Hi. Your Mallory shot, 15 may be Tony Smith again, but not sure, then Percy Tait, John Cooper, Pat Mahoney (partly obscured), don't know the next two but the last in the photo could be Mick (?) Andrew on the Gus Khun Norton?

Graham Dixon used to race Aermacchis for Stafford up to about 72, also a TD1C in 1968, a Triumph Trident 3 'Slippery Sam' lookalike in Production races including the Island, and also partnered Mike Trimby in some endurance events on a TZ350. He still rides now, and has a Triumph Daytona. He also bought the Trident off Stafford back in the seventies but I'm not sure he still has it now. A really nice guy, he helped me out with some work on my own Aermacchi a few times too.

I believe Graham was the first rider Stafford supported. They both went to an Aermacchi test day, in 68 I think it would have been when Stafford was planning to get back into racing himself. Stafford found the Aermacchi a bit of a handful, and Graham flung one of the others up the road after some spirited riding. They had both been talking earlier, and when he saw Graham had to pay up for the damage, Stafford stepped in and bought the bike, telling Syd Lawton that Graham was going to ride it for him. I'm not sure he had even asked Graham first!! That's how Stafford got into sponsorship!

I last saw Graham a couple of years ago - you have reminded me I should get back in touch!

All the best

Ray

Ray, thanks for the info. And yes, all the blokes you have mentioned are in the Mallory shot.

Still leaves two though gentlemen......

Good Afternoon I will go for Peter Williams and Barry Randle. If it is 1968

Evening, yes correct again, well done. As usual, old Percy has the Triumph cranked over wonderfully.....

Here's a teaser for you our friends north of the boarder might know..................

Some amazing films on here!
I advise you check out the "More TT Tribute" film - don't be fooled by the flat-capped old-timer in the thumbnail - it's the Castrol film of the 1967 Senior, along with Mike's 1979 Senior. Some great footage of other ridrers too

JD Special?
The TT database says a "G Borland" rode it in 1969 (dunno if thats cheating !)

You little tinker Barry I expected that to run and run . Good 'tech work , spotting the J D

Yes it's Gerry Borland on the ' John Duff Special ' , a 250 , based on the 350 DBD 32 GoldStar
This shot is 1965 at the Ingliston Circuit .

Have just consulted my Walker book on the Gold Star (my all-time favourite motorcycle!) and found a write-up of the JD Special therein, complete with pictures of Gerry Borland on the bike!

There was quite a write up in the ' Motorcyclist Illustrated ' I took the pic from dated November 1965 with pics of the internals

As if by magic

Just finished watching the Mike Hailwood film in that Babelgum series (see post 4276). Absolutely superb! If you haven't seen it yet, you must! Everything we loved about sixties racing, it's all there and in such clarity !

Fine footage indeed. Love SMBH's nonchalance after finishing 5 th on the Ducati, which seemingly wasn't half as good as the bike of 78.
The 3 h 57 min TT film is something for the next rainy weekend....

The late Aga Neumann thats sad Rennmax. I once had a conversation with her in the Island when she was passenger to Heinz Lutheringhauser in my diabolical german. Made us both laugh. Ah memories...

Do you want to have a go at this ??

Not a www but a historic shot

Welcome back Phil, good session?

Aha - I got Photobucket to work!!



OK - it is a WWW!!

It's ok Mick , was'nt on the sauce all night , went to bed before your posting ,

Ive no idea ,I think but what a great period shot , somewhere on the continent I would imagine

Proper nostalgia..... Ray Amm, Gordon Laing or is it Sid Willis, don't know the next fella, then Keith. Brilliant stuff Larry....got any more?

Yes Russ, little Sid it is - somewhere in France, 1953.

Third along is a Aussie too - who?

Photo, as so many of the upcoming ones will be, courtesy of Keith Bryen.

I was thinking earlier that it could be Maurrie Quincey....? Can't I.D the van/ station wagon ? Yet another interesting aspect of many of Keith's wonderful photographs is that full blown factory riders like Amm, Kavanagh and doubtless others, were travelling companions and presumambly great mates with blokes who were scratching around trying to earn a few bob, and then that factory ride........... I was born tewnty years too late.....

Be'em type tappered exhaust pipe but only one ?.....can't see enough of the motor. Give up....

Hi Russ, the rear hub is very likely to be a BMW type, the extreme style (wonder if he really can control the outfit if he hits a bump) reminds me of Camathias.. well I have no clue

Isn't that the right-hand pot just in front of the intrepid pilot's right foot ? Sure looks like a Beemer.... but the Dellorto bellmouths are out of view....hmmm...

Yeah, consensus seems to be that it's a Be'emm.....so, Seeley and Wally Rawlings ?

Hi guy's yes it is a Be'em , ridden with some verve by a Brit , but not Mr Seeley & Wally

Pip Harris then ??

Sorry Renn , but the computer says no

Blimey, Milton/Thornton by chance ??

Tony McAlpine, Russ!

Plus, there'll be a few more of the "travelling companions" along shortly . . . . . . . . . . . .

As to being born a few years too late, I reckon I was fifteen years late - I did however have 11 seasons from '76 to'86 on 'Macchis & TZs when it was still fun.

Nowadays, the only enjoyment left is in the Classics & Sidecars, so I'll carry on with the BeeM (solo, that is!!)

Close Renn , but no cigar

Tony Wakefied ?? he celebrates his 73 th birthday today btw, if my sources are correct

Well, with the exception of Chris Vincent, we now have named all British BMW drivers, I guess

Yes , it is Tony well done , and a happy birthday to him , from all of us on the forum

Errrrrrrrrr under his name in the prog. is a certain P Hartle from Wombourne listed , on a ............................wait for it BMW
But I know what you meant

Tough nut to crack...

I remember Tony Wakefield and Graham Milton as partners, i.e. same fairing livree, switching from BMW to British Magnum finally...is my impression correct ??

Edit: Another British BMW... Bill Copson and our forum member Dane

Quite right Renn , also , just been doing a bit of ' digging ' Pip Harris also came from Wombourne and both outfits were entered as BMW HFH 's !!!
So our friend P Hartle and Pip probably were working together it seems

by courtesy of "Paul from Eupen"

Yeah

Fancy a punt at this ??

Oh my Gawd!! HRD Vincent (thats the bike!!) Lance Capons Dad/Grandfather?

Ah , there you are Mr Fu no again ( you seem to be having a few refusals tonight )
This chappie was well known and pretty competitive on this beastie !!!!