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RRT2
QUOTE (GD66 @ Oct 15 2009, 22:47) *
Ken Cavanagh, 125 Ducati ?

Clypse Course, maybe....

125 Ducati Yes up.gif , but not Ken down.gif
SILVERDREAMRACER
John Robinson...wasn't he responsible for the Robinson 4 leading shoe front brake?

it was quite an intricate die cast bit of kit in its day....good effort but not as good as the established ceriani/fontana/oldani products

probably a lot cheaper though
roadshop
Romoli Ferri on the works-Ducati?
PE

fil2.8
QUOTE (Rennmax @ Oct 15 2009, 20:39) *
Quite sure, Scheidegger's fatal crash was in early '67, this pic is of 68 or 69 and John Robinson never raced again after that crash in Mallory


The pic is the R of the S Oct 1967 Renn , IIRC John's first public outing since the accident at Mallory cry.gif
RRT2
QUOTE (roadshop @ Oct 15 2009, 23:16) *
Romoli Ferri on the works-Ducati?
PE

Not Ferri I'm afraid eek.gif
larryd
QUOTE (RRT2 @ Oct 15 2009, 22:22) *

Evening All wave.gif Give this a go WWW smile.gif


Luigi Taveri

smile.gif
RRT2
QUOTE (larryd @ Oct 16 2009, 00:08) *
Luigi Taveri

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clap.gif Yes Larry thats the chap. up.gif 1958 Lightweight 125 TT on the Clypse course. smile.gif
Right I'm off to bed. Goodnight all wave.gif
Rennmax
QUOTE (fil2.8 @ Oct 16 2009, 00:16) *
The pic is the R of the S Oct 1967 Renn , IIRC John's first public outing since the accident at Mallory cry.gif


Thanks Phil, didn't know that Helmut and Wolfgang had already teamed up in '67...
Rennmax
QUOTE (SILVERDREAMRACER @ Oct 16 2009, 00:01) *
John Robinson...wasn't he responsible for the Robinson 4 leading shoe front brake?

it was quite an intricate die cast bit of kit in its day....good effort but not as good as the established ceriani/fontana/oldani products

probably a lot cheaper though


Wasn't Eddie Robinson the one of brake fame ??
GD66
That's my recollection of it too, Renn. Eddie Robinson was the brake man. Very stirring to see good pics of Scheidegger/Robinson again, I remember being mortified at the time of their accident, as Fritz could do no wrong in my eyes. Now that I look back, I was an 11 year-old on the other side of the world....must have been a victim very early on, I reckon.... cool.gif


Edit : In fact, there's some info on the Robinson brakes on the Eurospares site. up.gif
Rennmax
QUOTE (GD66 @ Oct 16 2009, 09:48) *
That's my recollection of it too, Renn. Eddie Robinson was the brake man. Very stirring to see good pics of Scheidegger/Robinson again, I remember being mortified at the time of their accident, as Fritz could do no wrong in my eyes. Now that I look back, I was an 11 year-old on the other side of the world....must have been a victim very early on, I reckon.... cool.gif


Edit : In fact, there's some info on the Robinson brakes on the Eurospares site. up.gif


Me too, remember quite well my brother collecting a autograph of him at the Norisring in '66
Rennmax



That's a Robinson brake in the allegedly quickest G50, at least on the continent..well, a bike in the shape of a G50 rolleyes.gif
Herr Wankel
QUOTE (Rennmax @ Oct 16 2009, 09:57) *
Me too, remember quite well my brother collecting a autograph of him at the Norisring in '66

Morning all,
A sad loss,and wasn't the outfit known as the FCS BMW?Something unlucky in that?Obviously Owen behind,but who is the other outfit.Charlie Freeman perhaps?
HW
GD66
Bill Boddice behind. The FCS-BMW was built by Helmut Fath and Florian Camathias, but raced by Colin Seeley. And that brake in the G50 is a CMA / Degens brake, not necessarily a Robinson....
Rennmax
QUOTE (GD66 @ Oct 16 2009, 10:16) *
Bill Boddice behind. The FCS-BMW was built by Helmut Fath and Florian Camathias, but raced by Colin Seeley. And that brake in the G50 is a CMA / Degens brake, not necessarily a Robinson....


The FCS was raced by Camathias in '63 and by Seeley in '64 when Florian campaigned the Gilera. And about the brake I stand corrected....
fil2.8
QUOTE (Rennmax @ Oct 16 2009, 07:25) *
Thanks Phil, didn't know that Helmut and Wolfgang had already teamed up in '67...


Wolfgang was Helmut's passenger at the TT in '67 also Renn , so probably teamed up at the start of the season
Classicpics
QUOTE (GD66 @ Oct 16 2009, 08:48) *
That's my recollection of it too, Renn. Eddie Robinson was the brake man. Very stirring to see good pics of Scheidegger/Robinson again, I remember being mortified at the time of their accident, as Fritz could do no wrong in my eyes. Now that I look back, I was an 11 year-old on the other side of the world....must have been a victim very early on, I reckon.... cool.gif


Edit : In fact, there's some info on the Robinson brakes on the Eurospares site. up.gif


I had walked up to the hairpin to see a couple of my friends who were marshaling there. I stood against the big tree looking down towards the Esses and I remember Fritz and John coming up very fast on the right hand side of the track passing everybody, something trailing from the outfit behind his right foot, which I thought was the gear linkage. I turned towards the hairpin to see John Robinson going up in the air. I guess Fritz was passing on the right because he couldn't stop and he didn't want to hit another outfit. A very sad day indeed and I can still run it through my mind just as if it was yesterday.
Classicpics


WWW, I can't remember when but I'll look it up, no doubt you lads will beat me to it!! ambivalent.gif
fil2.8
QUOTE (Classicpics @ Oct 16 2009, 18:39) *


WWW, I can't remember when but I'll look it up, no doubt you lads will beat me to it!! ambivalent.gif


Frank Perris , Bill Ivy , Motohashi ? Post TT 66/7 125race up.gif

Yes 1967
Classicpics
QUOTE (fil2.8 @ Oct 16 2009, 18:46) *
Frank Perris , Bill Ivy , Motohashi ? Post TT 66/7 125race up.gif

Yes 1967


clap.gif Riders, circuit and capacity correct.

NOT 1967 and NOT the Post TT meeting!!!
fil2.8
QUOTE (Classicpics @ Oct 16 2009, 18:56) *
NOT 1967 and NOT the Post TT meeting!!!


Hmmmmm i'm suprised CP , Must be '66 then ?
I saw our Japanese friend Motohashi in the '67 TT , who finished 3rd behind his more famous team-mate , with Luton boy winning from Stuart Graham and Dave Simmonds 4th
Classicpics
QUOTE (fil2.8 @ Oct 16 2009, 19:10) *
Hmmmmm i'm suprised CP , Must be '66 then ?
I saw our Japanese friend Motohashi in the '67 TT , who finished 3rd behind his more famous team-mate , with Luton boy winning from Stuart Graham and Dave Simmonds 4th


Yes, Sunday 19th June 1966 Pre TT Meeting... The year of the seamen's strike!!! No TT 'till September. blush.gif
Rennmax
QUOTE (Classicpics @ Oct 16 2009, 20:16) *
Yes, Sunday 19th June 1966 Pre TT Meeting... The year of the seamen's strike!!! No TT 'till September. blush.gif


what happened to the MGP that year ??
fil2.8
QUOTE (Rennmax @ Oct 16 2009, 19:19) *
what happened to the MGP that year ??


It was run , Renn a week or so late IIRC
Rennmax
QUOTE (fil2.8 @ Oct 16 2009, 20:34) *
It was run , Renn a week or so late IIRC


Thanks
fil2.8
How do chaps wave.gif fancy a go ??? WWW






kerrowmoar
An Ariel?

Looks more like a hillclimb than a circuit?

Or maybe its just my age
fil2.8
QUOTE (kerrowmoar @ Oct 17 2009, 18:54) *
An Ariel?

Looks more like a hillclimb than a circuit?

Or maybe its just my age


Yes , one to please fellow member HW , it is an Ariel and it is a hillclimb , well done clap.gif , but where ?? and who's the pilot ??
RRT2
QUOTE (fil2.8 @ Oct 17 2009, 19:02) *
Yes , one to please fellow member HW , it is an Ariel and it is a hillclimb , well done clap.gif , but where ?? and who's the pilot ??
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Good Evening Phil wave.gif Hillclimb? Ariel Arrow? Has to be George Brown. Shelsley Walsh by any chance?
fil2.8
QUOTE (RRT2 @ Oct 17 2009, 19:22) *
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Good Evening Phil wave.gif Hillclimb? Ariel Arrow? Has to be George Brown. Shelsley Walsh by any chance?

Evening to you , smart arse rolleyes.gif tongue.gif tongue.gif . That was a lucky guess was'nt it Rod ??? mad.gif either that or you have the same edition of ' Motor Cycle '
Well done clap.gif clap.gif
RRT2
It was indeed a lucky guess Phil tongue.gif
fil2.8
Right Rod and others , have a lucky guess at these , first is a gift I think , but who's behind him ??? WWW





RRT2

Here's another easy one for you rolleyes.gif cat.gif WWW
RRT2
Sorry Phil. Pushing in again eek.gif
Herr Wankel
QUOTE (RRT2 @ Oct 17 2009, 20:39) *
It was indeed a lucky guess Phil tongue.gif

Nice one,thanks,
Definitely GB.Theres a similar pic in his book,but with a different number.In 1961 he took the flying kilometre world record in 250,350 and 500 classes on this bike at over 108mph
HW
gmwzorro
QUOTE (RRT2 @ Oct 17 2009, 19:58) *
Here's another easy one for you rolleyes.gif cat.gif WWW

Les Graham ???
fil2.8
QUOTE (RRT2 @ Oct 17 2009, 20:00) *
Sorry Phil. Pushing in again eek.gif


Thats ok Rod , means you're first to the bar lol.gif roflmao.gif lol.gif drunk.gif up.gif
RRT2
QUOTE (gmwzorro @ Oct 17 2009, 20:01) *
Les Graham ???

Correct clap.gif Les Graham it is ,but where and when? smile.gif
fil2.8
QUOTE (RRT2 @ Oct 17 2009, 19:58) *

Here's another easy one for you rolleyes.gif cat.gif WWW


Is it a dispatch rider being dropped by parachute lol.gif eek.gif tongue.gif
Got to be Ulster
gmwzorro
QUOTE (RRT2 @ Oct 17 2009, 20:04) *
Correct clap.gif Les Graham it is ,but where and when? smile.gif

49 Ulster ?
RRT2
QUOTE (fil2.8 @ Oct 17 2009, 20:06) *
Is it a dispatch rider being dropped by parachute lol.gif eek.gif tongue.gif
Got to be Ulster

Yes Phil clap.gif Ulster it is. Being an ex Bomber pilot Les was used to flying!! eek.gif
RRT2
Later than 49
gmwzorro
QUOTE (RRT2 @ Oct 17 2009, 20:14) *
Later than 49

51?
RRT2
QUOTE (gmwzorro @ Oct 17 2009, 20:25) *
51?

Close, very close smile.gif
fil2.8
QUOTE (RRT2 @ Oct 17 2009, 20:34) *
Close, very close smile.gif


1950 perchance ?? rolleyes.gif
RRT2
QUOTE (fil2.8 @ Oct 17 2009, 20:38) *
1950 perchance ?? rolleyes.gif

No! The other way smile.gif I'm dragging this one out lol.gif Oh and which circuit, by the way ??? lol.gif rolleyes.gif eek.gif
gmwzorro
QUOTE (RRT2 @ Oct 17 2009, 20:42) *
No! The other way smile.gif I'm dragging this one out lol.gif Oh and which circuit, by the way ??? lol.gif rolleyes.gif eek.gif

Clady 52 Then
RRT2
QUOTE (gmwzorro @ Oct 17 2009, 20:43) *
Clady 52 Then

Yes !!! clap.gif Well done 1952 Ulster Grand Prix it is,Cladys circuit
fil2.8
QUOTE (fil2.8 @ Oct 17 2009, 19:57) *
Right Rod and others , have a lucky guess at these , first is a gift I think , but who's behind him ??? WWW







Wakey wakey yawnface.gif have you all missed/forgotten this ?? rolleyes.gif
RRT2
QUOTE (fil2.8 @ Oct 17 2009, 21:27) *
Wakey wakey yawnface.gif have you all missed/forgotten this ?? rolleyes.gif

I'm awake,just roflmao.gif No idea who the man in front is. One behind looks a bit of a veteran, I was thinking maybe Jack Brett 1963 possibly but he had probably retired by then confused.gif confused.gif
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