Spot on

Spot on again.

...and a MZ with a king-size petrol tank

not really, because I've no clue who # 41 is

Hmmm.

I had to look it up.

41 is C J Rogers, Bultaco.

Can't agree Those numbers are not white on a black background and although Fred was 26 in 125 TT 1968 41 was C Rogers on a bultaco
I think its the 250 race 41 being Dave Williams on a Yamaha and 26 being T Holdsworth on a Greaves

Hi Arthur

I'm pretty sure it's Fred, look at his goggles and helmet and the forks. John




This is from the 250 race

As soon as I saw it I thought Fred too.And def. a Bulty too,forks extending down below the spindle.
HW

From the same spot, Read on the 125 Yam.

Note the two in the background in both shots, they are the same.

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Hi Arthur

I'm pretty sure it's Fred, look at his goggles and helmet and the forks. John




This is from the 250 race


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Agreed its poor old Fred who stayed in the same guest house as me with his greyhound dog and 41 is Rogers Bultaco The close up shows white on black number George Todd was Freds Bantam mechanic we used to moan at them when they took up more than their share of the workshop space.

So, Keppel Gate, then ?

it's close together anyway...the caption reads " Senior 1912, Frank Apllebee at Keppel gate" (Nick Harris TT book) so the gate used to be after the cottage (well, 100 years ago), now the section before is Keppel gate

So that's the race where Bill Ivy stopped to let Lutonboy win ? In Read's "real story", he admits fairly and squarely that he couldn't match Bill's pace that day on the 125...
BTW, we all know Phil's lid, but what does the badge exactly show ??

Renn,

Hi. Nice sequence of photos these - my brother and I were watching at Governor's Bridge on the same day! The crest on Phil Read's helmet design I think was the Jersey emblem wasn't it? He lived in Jersey at the time as I seem to remember.

All the best

Ray

He actually lived in Guernsey , Ray

Fil,

I was close, but not close enough! Right area but the wrong Island - yes it was Guernsey - you are right of course.

All the best.

Ray

Guernsey is correct. Three gold lions on a red shield. Jeez that boy's fitted a lot into one life....

And still does , Glenn , methinks

I suspect so, Phil. Actually I tire of people bagging him left right and centre because they choose to take the moral high ground over the Ivy situation, without knowing either party or the facts involved. I have met and interviewed him on a number of occasions, partied with him and chatted with him and although he is without question an extremely complex character, he did what he had to do at the time and as a result, he is Britain's most successful living motorcycle racer. Often the public draw perceptions about people without delving into what lies beneath, in Lutonboy's case it takes a lot more excavation before any summary can be made. But his results sheet speaks for itself...

I could'nt agree more , I also have met him and shared a beer , a few times over the last 40 odd years and direct , forthright , yes , I am a huge Phil Read fan , and tended to side with him over the Bill Ivy situation , after all it was Phil who got him the ride in the first place IIRC .
Yep , a star all his adult life , he's ok in my book

Wot no holiday snaps on FB then fil

Got a new digital camera , tryed for a long time yesterday to load pics on ' puter , ' till i'd had enough , will try again later ( before skittles )

Adrenaline pumping action wiv skittles

You must get out more

I'd play darts here but it's that plastic tipped rubbish and the bars are full of drunken cowboys!



David

Under the circumstances , probably just as well they are plastic tipped , David

They are harmless usually Phil, hanging onto the floor after a few Bud Lights ! I don't go to any bars here as they just aren't in the same league as the village pub and skitlles! Good on yer


David

We have a pub game here in good old Oxfordshire called aunt sally,dont know if you have heard of it,I think its just a local thing,where you throw 6 lumps of wood at a wooden doll on a post,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,very highly skilled ,and highly dangerous if your pissed !!!!!

I've seen that Pete! I used to go down to the Rock of Gibraltar and the Boat at Thrupp (A guy from Coventry owned that and did model traction engines) and they'd be playing in a league. Good fun to watch too...especially with a gallon of Stowford Press!



David

its a small world, thats not all that far from where I live also been( fishing down there) is it ok to mention fishing in here ?
http://www.therockofgibraltar.co.uk/

One lovely morning I went out early to my interview at Waltham Forest for my bike mechanics interview and stopped off to fish at Bletchingdon...It was cold so I lit a fire, hid my gear to go down to London and came back to carry on. Well I thought I'd put the fire out but when I got back there was tree burning from the inside by the river. I made my escape on my CB900/1100 and the tree was gone next time I went I think it just burned out! I'll catch up with the fishing in a message Pete! Don't want to deviate too much!



David

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also been( fishing down there) is it ok to mention fishing in here ?

NO
And you try to extract the urine about skittles

Nooooooooooo Ooooooo Arghhhhhhhhhhh

Nothing wrong with skittles It's the country pub thing isn't it Phil? I bet you missed your country bumpkin pals in Portugal?

Did they think you were a Grockle there then?

David

Sadbat likes fishing too Phil 2 against one then



David


ps Did you win?

Lost on the last leg , David , to the league Champs , but the best game of the season

I think its Emmets! in cornwall and devon

What's Shaun got to do with it ???

Things seem quiet so can you help me ID the driver/rider of this outfit. I took it on 16-4-61 at the Wichford Sprint.
I think the outfit was called a 'Scitsu' and was possibly raced also. It appears to have a V-twin engine and the fairing comes from an aircraft drop tank.

Thanks,
Roy

I can remember the ' Scitsu ' range of outfit's Roy , just looked through a few progs , to no avail , i'm afraid

Yes , don't know where everybody has gone , Facebook perhaps ?? . Either that , or i've finally scared everyone away !!

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Thanks for that, I have some more programmes to go through, though I have given my Wichford copy away recently. But I have every hope it has not been binned.
Will keep you in the loop mba21.
As the country goes into liquidation, last man shut the door.
Roy

Maybe everyone are watching footy

Hopefully they will get better

Evenin fil ......wot no skittles tonight then

Watcha Pete , no , played twice this week , plus , played golf yesterday

No fishing , then ??

Noooooo fishing Ermmmmm whats your handicap then fil ?

Gave up handicaps about 2/3 years ago , got it down to 22 at one stage

Well chaps , seems there is a few of us about , any ideas on this bloke ??