Motorcycle racing: 1949-1968 nostalgia

Continental Circus, on Apr 1 2010, 10:17, said:

This one is a bit easier, who is it and where.

Enjoy,
Roy

Continental Circus, on Apr 1 2010, 09:17, said:

This one is a bit easier, who is it and where.

Enjoy,
Roy

graham houlihan, on Apr 1 2010, 12:52, said:

Looks like the Ulster

Herr Wankel, on Apr 1 2010, 12:23, said:

The one where he rode the OSSA through the middle of Belfast just in case the van got hijacked,and torched together with is contents!!
HW

Continental Circus, on Mar 31 2010, 18:22, said:

Come on chaps, are you running out of photos. Change of sport to sprinting old style'

One of the sports pioneers.
Any ideas?
Roy

Edited by terryshep, 01 April 2010 - 16:14.

Continental Circus, on Apr 1 2010, 15:25, said:

Hi there again, Graham you have the right venue in 1962-UGP.
Roadshop, it is not Santiago Herrero.
Come on HW you can do better than that.
Roy

terryshep, on Apr 1 2010, 18:12, said:

Not running out by any means, Roy, just fought my scanner to a draw after upgrading to Win 7. Here's a tickler for you Fifties types:

http://www.mediafire.../i/?mvdnodhdjzw

Who, where, when, what occasion?

TS

Edited by Rennmax, 01 April 2010 - 16:54.

Rennmax, on Apr 1 2010, 16:41, said:

Hi Terry, I swear that I would have recognized Ray Amm, one of my all-time favourites, without the caption... what a tragedy that he was killed during his first MV outing

Edit: he is very well remembered over here for making a pit stop during a race at the Norisring in Nuremberg (my hometown) in '53 just to give his wife a kiss Nevertheless he won the race, of course

Continental Circus, on Apr 1 2010, 17:07, said:

Well boys, you have cracked Hugh Anderson at the 1962 UGP, if it had been a colour film the red helmet would have given him away. Good on ya GD66.
I have not yet got the snow shovel out here in the tropics of Leicestershire.
I am a bit late Terry but I did recognise Ray Amm, on his tragic MV ride. Just makes you wonder what would have been seeing Ray battling with the 'Duke' in the World championships. Was it at the Shell Cup meeting at Imola?
Roy

PTJ, on Apr 2 2010, 13:36, said:

In reply to Russell Burrows’ post #6067 - it is indeed Charlie Sanby’s old 7R.
It was Bob McIntyre’s 1959 motorcycle - raced to second place in the 1961 IOM Manx GP by Robin Dawson. Charlie purchased it mid 1964 and I bought it of Charlie October/November 1969.
In my usual stupid way I sold the 7R towards the end of 1971, thinking it was too slow and wanting a Yamaha (grass is always greener etc.) Never did get the Yamaha but then not everything goes to plan.

Rennmax, on Apr 1 2010, 16:41, said:

Hi Terry, I swear that I would have recognized Ray Amm, one of my all-time favourites, without the caption... what a tragedy that he was killed during his first MV outing

Edit: he is very well remembered over here for making a pit stop during a race at the Norisring in Nuremberg (my hometown) in '53 just to give his wife a kiss Nevertheless he won the race, of course

Continental Circus, on Apr 1 2010, 19:00, said:

Who is this boys,

A pair of real chargers. Not sure who the stowaway in the chair is.
Enjoy,
Roy

Edited by Rennmax, 02 April 2010 - 17:16.

Classicpics, on Apr 2 2010, 17:05, said:

Another pair of hard chargers!

Classicpics, on Apr 2 2010, 19:26, said:

Go back a generation!

fil2.8, on Apr 2 2010, 13:48, said:

Thanks for the ' info ' PTJ , and welcome to the old farts club , may your visit be long and happy !!!

PTJ, on Apr 2 2010, 21:31, said:

Old? Old? Who are you calling old? Ancient maybe, prehistoric even but OLD! I’ll have you know sir that I am only 21 and have been for the last forty nine years! Old indeed, huh!
Disgruntled from Berkshire ;)

Oh and thanks for the welcome

PTJ, on Apr 2 2010, 21:31, said:

Old? Old? Who are you calling old? Ancient maybe, prehistoric even but OLD! I’ll have you know sir that I am only 21 and have been for the last forty nine years! Old indeed, huh!
Disgruntled from Berkshire ;)

Oh and thanks for the welcome

Rennmax, on Dec 28 2009, 12:46, said:

Think that we have identified Camathias as well as Lambert in previous posts, so this one, obviously Swiss, should be Scheidegger, although he doesn't look like him
Well, your 're right, comparing yesterday with today's heroes is rather pointless. Nevertheless, in the TT forum there is a discussion going on about the rise of speed on the mountain circuit.There is a claim that the speed difference between today's circuit and the circuit in the condition of 10 years ago is 4 mph. That's why I contemplate about the difference of nearly 50 years....

Continental Circus, on Apr 1 2010, 08:06, said:

Hi boys, well not right but good try.
Its Bill Bragg on 'Yellow Peril' at Wichford on 16-4-61.
Bill made a host of bikes and 3 wheelers, 'Yellow Peril' was a Triumph and clad in a beautiful aircraft drop-tank.
Roy

haroldh, on Apr 5 2010, 09:14, said:

Hi can you tell me where this part of the course is?

Edited by haroldh, 12 April 2010 - 06:53.

Continental Circus, on Apr 1 2010, 19:00, said:

Who is this boys,

A pair of real chargers. Not sure who the stowaway in the chair is.
Enjoy,
Roy

haroldh, on Apr 5 2010, 10:14, said:

Hi can you tell me where this part of the course is?

Rennmax, on Apr 5 2010, 18:03, said:

Hi Harold, that's the exit of Signpost

Rennmax, on Apr 2 2010, 17:57, said:

It has been displayed here before I think , so thanks to the gent who provided it

haroldh, on Apr 5 2010, 10:51, said:

Can anyone identify rider, passenger , course, date, machine, event?

Continental Circus, on Apr 6 2010, 10:23, said:

Hi Boys, With respect Renn the Harry Scholes shot on BMW #9 was not at Signpost Corner in 1962 TT.
It shows Harry Scholes and Keith Scott on the ex-Pip Harris outfit at Oulton Park on Easter Monday 23-4-62. The enbankment at Signpost was not wide and could only accept one row of spectators and did not carry advertising banners on the outside of the corner, unlike the inside which did. See my shot of some of our group at Signpost Corner in 1961.

In my Oulton programme Harry was third on the 6th lap behind Max Deubel and Pip Harris, however it was a 19 lap race and on lap 14 Harry was not oin the top 4.
I would be interested to know where the shot was taken at Oulton.
Best wishes,
Roy

haroldh, on Apr 6 2010, 09:34, said:

Roy,
from Chris Periera (back in 1998) I have the Harold (Harry) Scholes' result for Oulton Park April 23rd 1962 as : 3rd 500cc s/cars. 5th s/car handicap (BMW)
hope that helps? (love to see that programme!).Who finished 1st and 2nd ?

Harold

Continental Circus, on Apr 6 2010, 10:57, said:

Hi Harold,
Click on img585 for the Oulton Park sidecar entry, 23-4-62
img585.jpg (1.8 MB)
Can you confirm my PM.
Enjoy
Roy

Edited by haroldh, 12 April 2010 - 06:52.

Continental Circus, on Apr 6 2010, 11:23, said:

Hi Boys, With respect Renn the Harry Scholes shot on BMW #9 was not at Signpost Corner in 1962 TT.
It shows Harry Scholes and Keith Scott on the ex-Pip Harris outfit at Oulton Park on Easter Monday 23-4-62. The enbankment at Signpost was not wide and could only accept one row of spectators and did not carry advertising banners on the outside of the corner, unlike the inside which did. See my shot of some of our group at Signpost Corner in 1961.
In my Oulton programme Harry was third on the 6th lap behind Max Deubel and Pip Harris, however it was a 19 lap race and on lap 14 Harry was not oin the top 4.
I would be interested to know where the shot was taken at Oulton.
Best wishes,
Roy

Edited by Rennmax, 06 April 2010 - 18:06.

germanty, on Apr 6 2010, 18:17, said:

OK chaps whose this giving us a view of him that most of us would have had. http://img542.images...42/3536/who.jpg

fil2.8, on Apr 6 2010, 17:19, said:

Bob Mac ???

germanty, on Apr 6 2010, 17:27, said:

Bang on the money. 1960 TT 7R AJS.

What about this one might be a bit more difficult. http://img169.images...172/sidecar.png

haroldh, on Apr 6 2010, 13:27, said:

I have another couple of poor quality photos, can you identify the track? Possibly 1962, Oulton Park. Whereabout is this bridge?
In the lower photo man walking away with hat is Harold (Harry) Scholes, where is this?
Sidecar under bridge - what number is this?
Any details gratefully recieved

Alex Sinclair, on Apr 6 2010, 19:25, said:

Is it too late to suggest sidecar is exiting Deer Leap at Oulton Park? I can't help with anything else.

haroldh, on Apr 6 2010, 22:41, said:

thanks Alex.

Just a bit left field now : does anyone know if the Pip Harris BMW 1961 machine that Harry Scholes bought ended up with Tony Wakefield and Graham Milton?
I thought I read he had done something with it and then by 1965 or so moved on to something else. I thought Tony Wakefield was a car salesman in Northhants?

Herr Wankel, on Apr 7 2010, 10:12, said:

I know the late Graham Milton had a garage in Spaldwick just off the A14.Saw him doing a demo on the BMW at Mallory a few years ago,absolutely magic.Tony Wakefield was also entered as from Spaldwick.In the '69 Post TT,they were both entered separately on Rennsport outfits.
HW

larryd, on Apr 7 2010, 11:05, said:

QUOTE (Alex Sinclair @ Apr 6 2010, 19:25)
Is it too late to suggest sidecar is exiting Deer Leap at Oulton Park? I can't help with anything else.

Welcome aboard Alex - keep talking!!

Herr Wankel, on Apr 7 2010, 09:12, said:

I know the late Graham Milton had a garage in Spaldwick just off the A14.Saw him doing a demo on the BMW at Mallory a few years ago,absolutely magic.Tony Wakefield was also entered as from Spaldwick.In the '69 Post TT,they were both entered separately on Rennsport outfits.
HW

germanty, on Apr 7 2010, 19:18, said:

This is a bit spooky but I called into Robinsons garage of Kimbolton today and there shoved in a corner was (I think) this very outfit! Its called a Magnum and its usually on display in the window with the aforementioned Wakefield and his newscuttings.They let me take some pics of it if anyone is interested. Unfortunately I only had my film camera so I'me waiting for it to be developed. Kimbolton isnt far from Spaldwick!

germanty, on Apr 7 2010, 18:18, said:

This is a bit spooky but I called into Robinsons garage of Kimbolton today and there shoved in a corner was (I think) this very outfit! Its called a Magnum and its usually on display in the window with the aforementioned Wakefield and his newscuttings.They let me take some pics of it if anyone is interested. Unfortunately I only had my film camera so I'me waiting for it to be developed. Kimbolton isnt far from Spaldwick!

haroldh, on Apr 7 2010, 20:54, said:

Hi germanty,

that sounds brillliant! Any chance you can take a few s/c snaps and try and snap some of the literature especially its provenance - if they mention Pip Harris then that'll be it. Any chance you can give the garage name/address/phone details just in case I can get there?

Edited by haroldh, 12 April 2010 - 06:51.