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Rob Lees
Not as good or as old as some of the pics on here, but here's an action packed afternoon at Old Hall during the 1990 Oulton Park Gold Cup.

Marco Greco backs it into the armco - I'd never seen anything come in at that rate of knots before so I didn't get the impact shot as I was busy edging away from the fence!



Rather blurred shot of Pedro de la Rosa scattering the marshals with a big one



Seconds later - all ok thankfully!



Can't remember who this was, stopping the Renault 5 Turbo race

Mondiale M85S
In the De La Rosa shot it clearly says "Ford - Cars with a future" on the adjacent advertising hoarding.

That Van Diemen RF90 Formula Ford inverted in the wall beneath said hoarding doesn't look like it has much of one to me.wink.gif
Simon Arron
Originally posted by Gregor Marshall
Don't say things like that Simon!! In my research of Dad's racing, so far I have two P100 races, the 25th June and the 9th October 1988, Brands and Cadwell respectively - mosre research needed!!

Unfortunatley I have no photos and sorry for going off-topic (blurgh!!); Dad drove a P100 for the late Jackie Epstein (whoever chose his photo in Autosport, Motorsport News, etc should be shot!!) and he only stopped racing the P100 when he "officially" found out the tyres were full of helium!!

Gregor, was your dad in one of the guest cars? I have a feeling my P100 was an Epstein car. Colin Thorpe and his late son, Moss, looked after them.

On a separate note, I did once take part in the same race as Gerry - a TVR Tuscan round at Mallory in '89, where your dad qualified about eighth and I was 10th. During the morning he wandered over and started telling me how illegal my car was. "You do realise that car's bent, don't you? Engine's way too quick. Mark Hales keeps winning with it - and he's only a journalist. He can't drive sheep etc etc etc." This went on, very jovially, throughout the morning.

In the race, the usual suspects - Hodgetts, Allam, Kent, Cole, Blower, Marshall - tore away at the front and I was engaged in a duel for seventh or eighth with one or two others. Afterwards, my car passed scrutineering while #55 (driver: G Marshall) was turfed out because of some fuel discrepancy. I did find that quite funny, but the most important thing was knowing I'd been on the same circuit as your dad and his ilk. It was the realisation of a youthful dream that once seemed unattainable.
MCS
Originally posted by Simon Arron

I think the answer is John 'Pancho' Webb, from about 1976. There were two Monsieur Rochas Elans: Ricky Eady drove the other.


Definitely John Webb and his subsequent Sports 2000 Tiga carried Monsieur Rochas sponsorship I remember.

Essex Racing (Michael Gue) ran the lovely little Camel Lights Kudzus in IMSA, derived from his Argo JM-19B...
h4887
These are from the Tom Baker (yes, that one!) FF2000 Championship Race, supporting the James Hunt Trophy on 26/6/77.

Jeremy Rossiter


Phil Lloyd


Kenny Gray


Jack Hemming leading this group. 52 is Chris Fearon




Rad Dougall ahead of Philip Bullman


Dave McPherson
Phil Rainford
A trio of Sierra Cosworths when they were allowed to grace the BTCC cry.gif ......



Andy Rouse





Mike Smith





Karl Jones


PAR
Simon Arron
I might need a little help here (yes, Ian Smith, that means you)...


I think this is Richard Street demonstrating why he would soon ditch his Royale RP31M in favour of his trusty RP26, but I might be wrong. It's from one of the final club race meetings at Aintree, early in 1982.
Gregor Marshall
Simon A - have you any pics of Mr.Jones in his FF/King of Brands days?
Simon Arron
Sorry, Gregor. I think my only BH pix are from the 1978 & 1980 British GPs and 1979 Race of Champs. I suspect Phil might have some Festival shots featuring Franklyn de Karl Jones, however.
Ian Smith - Diz
Originally posted by Simon Arron
I might need a little help here (yes, Ian Smith, that means you)...


I think this is Richard Street demonstrating why he would soon ditch his Royale RP31M in favour of his trusty RP26, but I might be wrong. It's from one of the final club race meetings at Aintree, early in 1982.
Sorry Simon, I can't recall this one at all. But I am fairly certain that an anorak with a hoard of old programmes will be along shortly with the answer as to who was in car no.17. (yes, Phil Rainford, that means you)...
Phil Rainford
For some strange reason despite attending numerous meetings at Aintree I seem to have lost all the programmes.

However.....

1. I remember Mr Arron taking the picture

2. Can recall the car

....therefore I am as certain as a certain person could be who is studying Certainty at the University of Certain ( apologies to Blackadder) that it is Richard Street

Then again I could be wrong ;)

PAR
Gregor Marshall
Originally posted by Simon Arron

Gregor, was your dad in one of the guest cars? I have a feeling my P100 was an Epstein car. Colin Thorpe and his late son, Moss, looked after them.

On a separate note, I did once take part in the same race as Gerry - a TVR Tuscan round at Mallory in '89, where your dad qualified about eighth and I was 10th. During the morning he wandered over and started telling me how illegal my car was. "You do realise that car's bent, don't you? Engine's way too quick. Mark Hales keeps winning with it - and he's only a journalist. He can't drive sheep etc etc etc." This went on, very jovially, throughout the morning.

In the race, the usual suspects - Hodgetts, Allam, Kent, Cole, Blower, Marshall - tore away at the front and I was engaged in a duel for seventh or eighth with one or two others. Afterwards, my car passed scrutineering while #55 (driver: G Marshall) was turfed out because of some fuel discrepancy. I did find that quite funny, but the most important thing was knowing I'd been on the same circuit as your dad and his ilk. It was the realisation of a youthful dream that once seemed unattainable.


OT alert - Sounds like Dad Simon, never backwards coming forwards!! I have the DVD review of the year - it's brilliant.
A certain M.Arron qualified 10th with a 52.3 (pole was Steve Cole 49.5 and GM 5th with a 50.4).
Race M.Arron was 9th (Fastest Lap 51.3), 40.8 secs behind, winner was Hodgetts (FL 48.5) and GM 2nd (FL 49.6) and 3.2 secs behind.
Yes, Dad was dis-qualified for a fuel issue but it was over-turned at tribunal - I have the paperwork at home.
Simon Arron
They came ever closer to getting my name right... I think I was down on the provisional entry list as Mr T Tuscan, which morphed into M Arron during qualifying and I can't remember what they called me in the official results. I remember being glued to Steve Holman for the first 12 laps or so, but then I missed a gear coming out of the Elbow and lost a couple of seconds - and probably a place, too.

All of which goes to prove that your dad had a point about journalists not being able to drive sheep (in my case, at least).

Cheers,
SA
John Saunders
[QUOTE]Originally posted by h4887
[B]These are from the Tom Baker (yes, that one!) FF2000 Championship Race, supporting the James Hunt Trophy on 26/6/77.



Phil Lloyd




This is Phil Lloyd driving his self built Nomad Mk3, this became the Mk4 in 78 with narrow nose & front
wings. The Mk's 1 & 2 Nomads were used by Phil in F1200/F1300 from about 73 to 76 (winning the 76
championship)

Phil was very badly injured at Mallory in 79 in a FF2000 race driving a Reynard SF78 loaned to him
by Frank Bradley.
alansart
[QUOTE]Originally posted by John Saunders
[QUOTE]Originally posted by h4887
[B]These are from the Tom Baker (yes, that one!) FF2000 Championship Race, supporting the James Hunt Trophy on 26/6/77.



Phil Lloyd




This is Phil Lloyd driving his self built Nomad Mk3, this became the Mk4 in 78 with narrow nose & front
wings. The Mk's 1 & 2 Nomads were used by Phil in F1200/F1300 from about 73 to 76 (winning the 76
championship)

Phil was very badly injured at Mallory in 79 in a FF2000 race driving a Reynard SF78 loaned to him
by Frank Bradley.
[/QUOTE]

If I remember correctly Phil Lloyd also put together most of PRS's early chassis and it's sad that the Mallory crash cut short more than just his driving career.
Phil Rainford
[QUOTE]Originally posted by h4887
[B]These are from the Tom Baker (yes, that one!) FF2000 Championship Race, supporting the James Hunt Trophy on 26/6/77.

Rad Dougall ahead of Philip Bullman


Probably due to the combination of his car and helmet designs but I always thought Philip Bullman was one cool dude smoking.gif

PAR
hh-tech
Hi

I love the intake scoops, wow!

What make is the yellow car driven by Jeremy Rossiter?

I have an old Delta FF2000 ca-77 in milion pieces lying around and consider puting it together

Henrik
h4887
Originally posted by hh-tech
Hi


What make is the yellow car driven by Jeremy Rossiter?


Henrik


It's a Reynard 77SF
Cirrus
If I remember correctly Phil Lloyd also put together most of PRS's early chassis and it's sad that the Mallory crash cut short more than just his driving career.


Phil Lloyd contacted me in connection with the Historic FF2000 website some time ago. He came across it whilst searching out some female-related racing results for his daughter, who was doing Formula Woman at the time. He clearly retains an interest! In the course of trawling through Autosports of the 1975-1981 era, I came across details of a nasty shunt that PL suffered, before the devastating accident that ended his career. That one (also at Mallory, I think) left him hospitalised for a while after a very nasty blow to the head.
John Saunders
Originally posted by alansart


If I remember correctly Phil Lloyd also put together most of PRS's early chassis and it's sad that the Mallory crash cut short more than just his driving career.



Yes Phil was a very busy lad in the 70's. He was a student at Imperial College (doing research in to
lubrecants I think),designing, building & racing his own cars. At the same time working at PRS as a
fabricator building most of there chassis & suspension part.
He also found time to build the very quick engine used by Mike Brett in our F4 Brabham in 78, & do chassis
repairs on other cars.

Some months after the Mallory crash I went to see Phil in Stoke Mandeville Hospital that day he had been
given a very old electric wheel chair which he had to control with a joy stick using his chin.
Being a bloody racing driver of coarse it was flat out or nothing, he must have hit every wall & door frame
in the hospital that afternoon. After we found some tools made some adjustments & got the tyre pressures
sorted he was doing competitive times around the wards.
alansart
Originally posted by John Saunders



Yes Phil was a very busy lad in the 70's. He was a student at Imperial College (doing research in to
lubrecants I think),designing, building & racing his own cars. At the same time working at PRS as a
fabricator building most of there chassis & suspension part.
He also found time to build the very quick engine used by Mike Brett in our F4 Brabham in 78, & do chassis
repairs on other cars.

Some months after the Mallory crash I went to see Phil in Stoke Mandeville Hospital that day he had been
given a very old electric wheel chair which he had to control with a joy stick using his chin.
Being a bloody racing driver of coarse it was flat out or nothing, he must have hit every wall & door frame
in the hospital that afternoon. After we found some tools made some adjustments & got the tyre pressures
sorted he was doing competitive times around the wards.


Phil helped Chris Reynalds put his PRS together at the works. Chris did some sort of deal where he got the car cheaper if he built it himself and was very grateful for Phil's help and abilities. Chris told me about Phil's accident (I think he saw it) and he seemed quite upset about it. Ironically Chris was put on his lid by Philippe Lambert at Silverstone a short time later and ended up in hospital after the roll hoop broke. Fortunately is a fairly small bloke, so didn't end with similar injuries to Phil and fully recovered.

After witnessing Simon Frosdick end up with similar injuries to Phil after turning his PRS over at Mallory, we added an extra roll hoop to our version for extra security. We went to see Simon at Stoke Mandeville shortly afterward. What people did in wheel chairs there was quite remarkable and possibly more dangerous than a Formula Ford!
John Saunders
Originally posted by alansart


Phil helped Chris Reynalds put his PRS together at the works. Chris did some sort of deal where he got the car cheaper if he built it himself and was very grateful for Phil's help and abilities. Chris told me about Phil's accident (I think he saw it) and he seemed quite upset about it. Ironically Chris was put on his lid by Philippe Lambert at Silverstone a short time later and ended up in hospital after the roll hoop broke. Fortunately is a fairly small bloke, so didn't end with similar injuries to Phil and fully recovered.

After witnessing Simon Frosdick end up with similar injuries to Phil after turning his PRS over at Mallory, we added an extra roll hoop to our version for extra security. We went to see Simon at Stoke Mandeville shortly afterward. What people did in wheel chairs there was quite remarkable and possibly more dangerous than a Formula Ford!






79 was my first season in FF2000 running a Reynard with Mike Brett, the best Mike could do that day at
Mallory was 3rd in the qualifying race making him first reserve for the championship race. When he did't
get on the grid we went to watch the race from the outside of Gerard's. Why we ran down to there I
do not know, never watched a race from there before & it all happend right in front fo us. There was a
lot of wheel banging from the start then a car went straight up out of the pack & landed upside down on
the inside of Gerard's, the roll bar sunk in the mud & Phil took the full weigh on his head. The marshal's
rolled the car over with Phil still in it & lifted him out of the car as they did back then 30 years ago.

Mike drove Phil's truck back to St Albans that night with me following in our truck on the M1 we were flaged
down by a car, turned out to be Tommy Byrne very concerned about Phil, all we new as that time was that it was very bad. We took Phil's truck back to PRS's let ourselves in the key was all way under a brick by the gate,different world back then.

It was very upsetting I could happily walk away racing at that time, but Mike want't to carry on racing
so we did for about another 10 years.
elansprint72
Tom Pitcher cocks a leg. This was one of the first appearances of the Golf GTI at Oulton, I think two were entered, the silver one crashed. At the time you could only get lhd GTIs from the Continent.
Tim Murray
Good Lord! Was this the Tom Pitcher, the BriSCA stock car racer?
elansprint72
Originally posted by Tim Murray
Good Lord! Was this the Tom Pitcher, the BriSCA stock car racer?


No idea! Derek Lawson and I got his name from the race programme when we were sorting out photos for his book on Oulton.
elansprint72
Couple of blokes here concentrating on their sport. smile.gif
bradbury west
Looks like Neil Corner in the Bugatti
Roger Lund
Richard Young
And following....Harvey McWhir in the F-N ?
elansprint72
No use asking me- too busy snapping to write the names down. roflmao.gif
Alan Cox
To add to the vintage theme:

Freddie Giles driving Ron Footit's COGNAC, Richard Seaman meeting 1978


Front row of Vintage Seaman race 1980. Hamish Moffat (Frank Wall's monoposto Bugatti), Ron Footit (COGNAC) and Willie Green (JCB Delage)


Roddy Macpherson with his Cooper Bristol in its early stages of development, 1979
Alan Cox
From vintage mode to (relatively) modern...
Some photos from the 1978 Silverstone August Bank Holiday F3 meeting which attracted European interest to challenge the home-based teams


Alain Prost's Martini, mixing it with Teo Fabi's March around Woodcote


Satoru Nakajima with the Aeroflot Nova


Tiff Needell, nicely set up around Woodcote with the Unipart March


Third place honours went to Prost, here interviewed by the late, great Peter Scott-Russell, while Nelson Piquet ran out the winner
275 GTB-4
Originally posted by Alan Cox
To add to the vintage theme:


Roddy Macpherson with his Cooper Bristol in its early stages of development, 1979


e.v.o.c.a.t.i.v.e up.gif cool.gif
Andrew Kitson
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Phil Rainford
[QUOTE]Originally posted by h4887
[B]

[/QUOTE]
Rory's RP25, an RP24 with wings. Thanks for posting this pic, brilliant days and memories.
Stephen W
1986 Oulton Park and FF2000 again:



Gachot, Blundell, Alcorn, Bancroft, Carcasi & 'A.N. Other' in a Reynard.
Andrew Kitson
Is the A.N.Other Paul Tracy?
Stephen W
Originally posted by Andrew Kitson
Is the A.N.Other Paul Tracy?


Just checked the programme and No 10 was an additional runner, driver = Paul Thomas.

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elansprint72
Originally posted by Alan Cox
[B]To add to the vintage theme:

Freddie Giles driving Ron Footit's COGNAC, Richard Seaman meeting 1978


Wonderful B&W images Alan (maybe colour will catch on one day?). roflmao.gif

Here is the Cognac Special, same corner but from 1975; remarkable machine, remarkable driving.


I thought that I had managed to post this yesterday but I must have out-fumbled myself (again).
John Saunders
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Alan Cox


Tiff Needell, nicely set up around Woodcote with the Unipart March

Back in 78 when running an old Brabham in F4 we used to buy second hand tyres from
the Unipart Team for £10.00 each. We new one of the mechanics at Dave Price Racing.
Looks like Tiff's giving this set some stick.
David McKinney
Originally posted by Andrew Kitson
Is the A.N.Other Paul Tracy?

ISTR Tracy's car was white
Phil Rainford
Browsing the Web it appears that History has failed to register a momentous occasion in British Club Racing that occurred on the 14 March 1986

While Simon Wayne......




and Howard Done concentrate during morning qualifying.





All other eyes were on TNF's own Simon Arron, who despite his father attempting to talk him out of it at breakfast, was making his UK race debut



PAR
Ian Smith - Diz
And I believe Howard Done is making a return to FF1600 this season. I'm not sure what he's been upto for the last twenty odd years though.

And how did SA perform that day, also who was running him?
Simon Arron
Originally posted by Phil Rainford
March 14 1986... All other eyes were on TNF's own Simon Arron, who was making his UK race debut... despite his father attempting to talk him out of it at breakfast.

One or two errors there, Mr Rainford.

One, I made my debut in 1987.

Two, that picture isn't me. It's George McGlashan, whose Crosslé 45F I borrowed. George did the Formula E and Champion of Oulton races, I did a third, non-championship event later in the day, then beetled off to Thruxton to watch Johnny Herbert win the opening round of the British F3 Championship on Sunday. My helmet was an almost plain-white Bell Star 2, with Demon Tweeks logos on the side (generous discount from Alan Minshaw) and an Alan Cox-manufactured Racing for Altrincham sticker on the visor.

And for Mr Smith, I qualified 19th of about 27 and finished, I think, 12th, although I lost a place or two on the final lap by using the grass for most of the way from Cascades to the Island hairpin...
Phil Rainford
Close then.... blush.gif
MCS
Originally posted by Ian Smith - Diz
And I believe Howard Done is making a return to FF1600 this season. I'm not sure what he's been upto for the last twenty odd years though.


Has he any connection with the Done betting dynasty, started in the backstreets of Salford ??
Alan Cox
Originally posted by MCS
Has he any connection with the Done betting dynasty, started in the backstreets of Salford ??

I wouldn't have thought so, Mark. He is a farmer from Malpas, but, then again, you never know..
Andrew Kitson
Originally posted by David McKinney

ISTR Tracy's car was white

It ran with different colours throughout the year as confirmed to me by Richard Dutton, also black with orange nose.
Vicuna
Originally posted by Simon Arron



Two, that picture isn't me. It's George McGlashan, whose Crosslé 45F I borrowed.



45F or 35F?
David McKinney
Originally posted by Andrew Kitson
It ran with different colours throughout the year as confirmed to me by Richard Dutton, also black with orange nose.

Yes, black and orange rings a bell too, now you mention it. Maybe I wasn't at the meeting(s) when it was red. Or - more likely - I simply don't remember smile.gif
simonlewisbooks
[QUOTE]Originally posted by John Saunders
[B][QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Alan Cox


[/QUOTE]

This sums up so much that is wrong with modern day F3... I must be getting old...rolleyes.gif
Stephen W
Originally posted by simonlewisbooks


This sums up so much that is wrong with modern day F3... I must be getting old...rolleyes.gif


With age comes wisdom!

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