Andrew Kitson
Feb 22 2008, 10:07
Two terrific photographs here. Posted with the kind permission of Ted Walker at Ferret who owns the copyright and both taken by my friend Mike Dixon, 'Autosport' snapper and journalist at Snetterton and other circuits in the '60s/70s. Therefore not personal photos, but definitely worthy of inclusion here!
Formula Atlantic at Snett in 1973. The field storms into the hairpin at the end of the long Norwich straight.
Vandervell leads Fris and Johnny Nick with Purley hard on the brakes on the inside. Stan Matthews (someone I have known for 40 years - and I'm only 48!) in the distance in his 73B. When I first studied this, I thought there were two hay stacks in the distance to the left ( being rural agricultural East anglia). It is infact the old Riches grandstand, the gap being the doorway at the back of the stand. Superb shot, can almost hear those BDAs!
I think Fris won this one...Geoff?
I'd never seen a shot from here before, again featuring Fris in clubmans in 1975. From inside the Cadwell barn!
Mike said you had to be very brave to stand in there!
EDIT - Photos removed. See posts below.
Thanks Ted, make sure you visit his site.
http://www.ferret1.co.uk/fabout.html
David McKinney
Feb 22 2008, 11:48
Much as I admire both shots, if we all start posting other people's pictures, where will it end?
Andrew Kitson
Feb 22 2008, 11:56
OK, removed.
ian senior
Feb 22 2008, 11:58
Originally posted by David McKinney
Much as I admire both shots, if we all start posting other people's pictures, where will it end?
I think the idea is to let them be seen by people who might not otherwise see them. As long as it's been cleared with the "owner", what's the problem? But I'm biased - I don't make a living out of such activities.
David McKinney
Feb 22 2008, 12:03
I could just see the site becoming swamped with farsands of professional photos
Nothing at all wrong with showing pictures such as those, but not in a thread started specifically for people to display their own efforts
As I've said before, it's quite easy to start a new thread
brandspro
Feb 23 2008, 20:03
Gentlemen, any photos of the FF efforts of Lanan racing in the early '90's, or Andy Welch Racing in '94 floating around out there? Feeling a bit nostalgic for my...errr...youth.
Phil Rainford
Feb 24 2008, 13:42
A trio of extremely rapid individuals from the British Grand Prix 1987 Support Races....
Johnny Herbert
Karl Jones
Barrie Williams in the Renualt GTA race.
Kind regards
Phil
rdmotorsport
Feb 24 2008, 16:39
Interesting thread albeit the Deans "Knackered old bus" was both admired and envied considering the rest were still in bedford TK s and alike plus the same vehicle trailed the interstates across the pond.
Finally as anyone got pics of 1984 F3 season and the festival of the same year?
Alan Cox
Feb 24 2008, 19:26
rdmotorsport
Feb 24 2008, 19:36
Thanks Alan, although 1984 was very much follow the Earl of Dumfries but not that bad a season, Spence,Berg,Cheever etc also drove with verve, any more pics anyone?
Phil Rainford
Feb 24 2008, 20:06
[QUOTE]
Originally posted by Alan Cox
[B]Some British F3 photos from 1984, as requested by rdmotorsport. I realise that I took very few photos of the '84 F3 season - must have been a year that didn't caprture my imagination.
FF from the same meeting - sorry, but I have lost the programme. Leaving up to you guys to identify...
Alan you are losing your touch!
Miles Johnston leading Jonathan Bancroft in the first shot and Adrian Willmot leading the field in the second photo ..........its a BP Superfind Round and I have the entry from a race at Oulton so have the Championship numbers ;)
Kind regards
Phil
Ian Smith - Diz
Feb 25 2008, 10:06
Originally posted by Alan Cox
Some British F3 photos from 1984, as requested by rdmotorsport. I realise that I took very few photos of the '84 F3 season - must have been a year that didn't caprture my imagination.
..and from Oulton a week or two later..
That's got me confused. Malcolm Barfoot is in the black Crossle 32F. I'm still very impressed to this day with the immaculate number 66 affixed to the car by my goodself.
What does confuse me though is the red No.9 Crossle 25F. Malcolm became known as the pilot of red 25Fs' and his usual chosen race number was 9. I know it was one of our Peacock Race School cars with a customer in it, running MB's number - probably to wind him up.
I'll take a stab at Jim "Pink Panther" Kelly as the driver. Known as PP after his mother washed his race suit with coloureds and his nice, shiny white race suit came out a fetching shade of pink.
alansart
Feb 25 2008, 10:34
Originally posted by Ian Smith - Diz
That's got me confused. Malcolm Barfoot is in the black Crossle 32F. I'm still very impressed to this day with the immaculate number 66 affixed to the car by my goodself.
Is the RP26 alongside Malcolm Barfoot, Richard Street?
Diz on the track - side by side with Brian Mullarkey at Mallory
Unfortunately I don't have photographic evidence of his record attempt around Aintree in a Sinclair C5
Mallory Dan
Feb 25 2008, 11:27
Originally posted by rdmotorsport
Thanks Alan, although 1984 was very much follow the Earl of Dumfries but not that bad a season, Spence,Berg,Cheever etc also drove with verve, any more pics anyone?
Sorry Rodney, I agree with Alan, 84 was a poor F3 year. Wall to wall RT3s, even in Class B, none of the drivers went on to do much really did they?
Ian Smith - Diz
Feb 25 2008, 12:35
Originally posted by alansart
Unfortunately I don't have photographic evidence of his record attempt around Aintree in a Sinclair C5
For the record. One Graham Hughes - the only man ever to fall out of a rolling MG Midget and land on his feet unscathed - turned up at an Aintree School Tuesday with a Sinclair C5. If you tried to guess who was liable to acquire one of these gizmos, it was the jovial carb shop owner who would have been your first choice. What a trading name he had "Gettabettacarburetta"
Anyway - to quote Muddly Talker - I stopped the startwatch and off he went on a lap of Aintree. Some seven and a half minutes later he crossed the line. I was next to take up the challenge and with a bit of additional pedalling I stopped the clock at a staggering 6 min 45 sec. By this stage the battery had become flat and Graham took his toy home and we got on with running the school. I recall there was a camera about, but I've no idea what happened to the pikkies.
So my lap record has remained intact for nearly 30 years.
Stephen W
Feb 25 2008, 15:00
Originally posted by Ian Smith - Diz
So my lap record has remained intact for nearly 30 years.
It should finally be broken this year when the Greenpower cars are let loose!
Alan Cox
Feb 25 2008, 17:50
I think the white RP26 (Ace Time sponsored) is driven by Roland Turner, Alan
sterling49
Feb 25 2008, 18:15
Originally posted by ian senior
I think the idea is to let them be seen by people who might not otherwise see them. As long as it's been cleared with the "owner", what's the problem? But I'm biased - I don't make a living out of such activities.
Agreed Ian, Andrew has a great collection of photos that many of us would love to see, otherwise, they get lost to time, and nobody sees them. The pleasure they give, or they could be in the vaults :\
Pity that I never saw the photos before their removal!
David McKinney
Feb 25 2008, 18:49
No-one disagrees with that viewpoint Sterling
Some of just think the club-racing photo site should be for club-racing photos, and pictures such as those under discussion should be in a different thread
Stephen W
Feb 26 2008, 15:56
Alex Lowe leading the F4 Race at Oulton May 1977
John Saunders
Feb 26 2008, 18:00
Great to see a F4 picture from Oulton Park 21st May 77 drivers are (I think)
Alex Lowe Chevron B20. Finished 1st
Ken Crook Ensign " 2nd
Mike Whatley BT21 with March bodywork. " 7th
Eddie Heasell Brabham. " 3rd
Bob Laughton Tecno. " Rtd.
Jim Ward Gem (self built). " 4th
Thank Andrew I forgot Ken had an Ensign.
Andrew Kitson
Feb 26 2008, 18:05
Yes a good picture. No 11 is an Ensign.
Cirrus
Feb 26 2008, 18:29
All those F4 names bring back great memories. They were a really nice bunch of guys, and very generous with their advice and help to this fledgling racer in 1977.
Eddie Heasell's Brabham was a BT38, modified to front radiator form - a very neat car. I'm pretty sure Ken Crook's Ensign was built from new parts. Ken had been a good 1 Litre F3 racer in his day. I think he used to drive for Lotus at one point, and he was a works Alexis driver towards the end of the formula.
Stephen W
Feb 26 2008, 20:36
Originally posted by John Saunders
Great to see a F4 picture from Oulton Park 21st May 77 drivers are (I think)
Alex Lowe Chevron B20. Finished 1st
Ken Crook Ensign " 2nd
Mike Whatley BT21 with March bodywork. " 7th
Eddie Heasell Brabham. " 3rd
Bob Laughton Tecno. " Rtd.
Jim Ward Gem (self built). " 4th
Thank Andrew I forgot Ken had an Ensign.
Above: Bob Laughton & Jim Ward give chase
Mallory Dan
Feb 27 2008, 10:57
Laughton and Ward both look like they've got March noses! F4 was really good around this time, some interesting cars, usually well turned out, and very fast given the relatively small motors they had. Whatever happened to Fergus Tait, a good driver I always thought?
Stephen W
Feb 27 2008, 11:03
Originally posted by Mallory Dan
Laughton and Ward both look like they've got March noses! F4 was really good around this time, some interesting cars, usually well turned out, and very fast given the relatively small motors they had. Whatever happened to Fergus Tait, a good driver I always thought?
I suspect someone managed to either get hold of the buck to make March nosecones or made one; any road up they were soon flooding the market.
Formula 4, Monoposto plus the 750MC championships were always superb days racing; it was the highlight of the club racing meetings at Oulton Park.
alansart
Feb 27 2008, 12:55
Originally posted by Stephen W
I suspect someone managed to either get hold of the buck to make March nosecones or made one; any road up they were soon flooding the market.
Got mine from Dick Harvey.
They were all the rage in F750 in the late 70's
John Saunders
Feb 27 2008, 16:28
In 77 I was running 2 Brabhams in F4 both modified to take March 733 bodywork entered as CP Hydraulics a BT15/21
for Mike Brett & a BT21 for Mike Wilder. We got the March bodywork from a firm in Kent (could have been
Rawlson) plus a mold for 733 nose sections & we supplied lots of 733 noses in 77 & 78 to 750 MC members. As Cirrus said
great bunch of guys we all help each other & lent each other part to get as many car as possible on the
grid at each meeting.
Phil Rainford
Mar 2 2008, 20:30
As I am in the process of reading Jackie Stewart's new book, thought I would post this "Family Day Out" at Oulton Park in Paul Stewart's year in FF2000....
Kind regards
Phil
Simon Arron
Mar 4 2008, 21:45
From the personal archive of Ian 'very good at organising Formula Ford championships but crap at scanning pictures so needs someone else to do it for him' Smith...
Mallory Park, 1975. The dramatis personae (now edited - see subsequent messages)? Rad Dougall (Royale RP21 #1), Ian's former tenant Eddie Jordan (Crosslé 30F #33) and Kenny Gray (Van Diemen RF75 #16). Not sure whether that's Mallory Dan standing 37th from the left in the final pic...
Ian Smith - Diz
Mar 4 2008, 23:41
Thanks Simon.
Stephen W
Mar 5 2008, 10:26
Originally posted by Simon Arron
Not sure whether that's Mallory Dan standing 37th from the left in the final pic...
Now there was me thinking he was 39th!
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Phil Rainford
Mar 5 2008, 12:08
[QUOTE]
Originally posted by Simon Arron
[B]From the personal archive of Ian 'very good at organising Formula Ford championships but crap at scanning pictures so needs someone else to do it for him' Smith...
A selection of shots from one of the Formula Ford Championships that ian was " very good at organising"....
Mirfield's finest Nick Hammerton leads Malcolm Barfoot into Old Hall
A subject of converstion at Monday's TNF meeting...Wally Warwick
Roger Eccleston leads Bryan Mullarkey through Lodge Corner
The extremely rapid Douglas Lague in his immaculate Van Diemen RF78
Struggling on this one ... I think it is Paul Hogarth leads the field round Lodge?
Kind regards
Phil
Mallory Dan
Mar 5 2008, 12:58
Originally posted by Stephen W
Now there was me thinking he was 39th!
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OTOH I wasn't at that meeting, summer family hols I think. Are we certain thats Rod B in the RP21, wasn't he a Crossle man?
Originally posted by Mallory Dan
OTOH I wasn't at that meeting, summer family hols I think. Are we certain thats Rod B in the RP21, wasn't he a Crossle man?
Correct Dan - Bremner was in a Crossle.
I reckon it's either Rad Dougall or Geoff Smailes, probably the former...
Andrew Kitson
Mar 5 2008, 15:30
I think it is Rad, he had BP backing in '75 & '76, running a black RP21 in '75. EJ's car entered by the Mondello Racing School IIRC?
Simon Arron
Mar 5 2008, 15:35
Oops. It is Rad Dougall. Ian S captioned it correctly, but I wasn't paying full attention when I scanned it in... Suspect I typed "Rod" rather than "Rad", at which point autopilot will have taken over.
I'll edit the original...
Simon Arron
Mar 8 2008, 07:35
This is from Aintree on May 3 1982 - one of the final club meetings. I no longer have the programme, but identification would be a struggle even if I did.
Marshal and I obviously reacted at exactly the same 1/500th of a second. Mallory Dan might be able to work out car, driver and blood group from the tread depth of the front-left tyre...
Auroraf1
Mar 8 2008, 11:04
Originally posted by Simon Arron
This is from Aintree on May 3 1982 - one of the final club meetings. I no longer have the programme, but identification would be a struggle even if I did.
Marshal and I obviously reacted at exactly the same 1/500th of a second. Mallory Dan might be able to work out car, driver and blood group from the tread depth of the front-left tyre...
As it is a Formula Ford at Aintree I reckon Diz is your man to get the blood group from, but I'l stick my kneck out and say Jim Kelly, then wait for Diz to put me right!
Ian Smith - Diz
Mar 9 2008, 08:59
Originally posted by Auroraf1
As it is a Formula Ford at Aintree I reckon Diz is your man to get the blood group from, but I'l stick my kneck out and say Jim Kelly, then wait for Diz to put me right!
Not got a clue matey. If it was the £1m question on Millionaire, I'd guess at a white Royale RP26. This ties in with Auroraf1's Jim "Panther" Kelly guess.
Note to SA : Don't stand next to a flag marshal - it might spoil a good shot.
Phil Rainford
Mar 9 2008, 10:29
At a recent TNF Northern Gathering one of the many points of discussion drifted to the MG Shop under the arches in the centre of Manchester. The proprietors were John and Bill Hewitt and were both leading drivers in the MG Car Club North Western Centre’s various Championships
Here are a couple of shots of John Hewitt in the famous MG Ethel:
Also pictured is the Didsbury GP Dr Mark Ashworth who was a regular front runner in his Hale Kitchens MGB
The town of Hale is not only famous for its various Wine Bars but also the home town of Motoring News’s current Grand Prix correspondent and regular TNF contributor Mr Arron
Kind regards
Phil
alansart
Mar 9 2008, 12:03
Originally posted by Phil Rainford
At a recent TNF Northern Gathering one of the many points of discussion drifted to the MG Shop under the arches in the centre of Manchester. The propitiators were John and Bill Hewitt and were both leading drivers in the MG Car Club North Western Centre’s various Championships
Here are a couple of shots of John Hewitt in the famous MG Ethel:
Also pictured is the Didsbury GP Dr Mark Ashworth who was a regular front runner in his Hale Kitchens MGB
The town of Hale is not only famous for its various Wine Bars but also the home town of Motoring News’s current Grand Prix correspondent and regular TNF contributor Mr Arron
Kind regards
Phil
I passed the Manchester Arches a couple of days ago. Hewitts is gone although there is a sign up saying ring this number or view the website. Something like that anyway.
I did some work for Hewitts in the 80's promoting their new line of paints:
The Hale connection is interesting (apart from the fact I've lived there for the past 11 years). Wasn't Sports Motors of Ashley Road, Hale into motor sport in the 70's & 80's. They had a garage next to the Bleeding Wolf pub, both of which are now a housing development
Simon Arron
Mar 9 2008, 13:30
Sports Motors used to have a showroom in Hale village (it's hardly a town, Rainford) - it was near the bottom of Cambridge Road, on the far side of Ashley Road (can't remember what the premises are used for now, but it has a tea room upstairs). They used to sell all manner of classic cars and stuff in the 1960s.
The workshop next to the old Bleeding Wolf serviced Renaults in the late 1970s/early 1980s (one of its mechanics smacked my dad's R18 into a wall on the Tatton mile during a test run), but I think the motorsport connection pre-dates that by a decade or two. The Bleeding Wolf (Mr Rainford and I were occasional clients) was one of the last pubs in Hale to reinstall hand-pumped beer, but it still didn't deserve to be turned into yet another apartment block.
alansart
Mar 9 2008, 13:56
Originally posted by Simon Arron
Sports Motors used to have a showroom in Hale village (it's hardly a town, Rainford) - it was near the bottom of Cambridge Road, on the far side of Ashley Road (can't remember what the premises are used for now, but it has a tea room upstairs). They used to sell all manner of classic cars and stuff in the 1960s.
The workshop next to the old Bleeding Wolf serviced Renaults in the late 1970s/early 1980s (one of its mechanics smacked my dad's R18 into a wall on the Tatton mile during a test run), but I think the motorsport connection pre-dates that by a decade or two. The Bleeding Wolf (Mr Rainford and I were occasional clients) was one of the last pubs in Hale to reinstall hand-pumped beer, but it still didn't deserve to be turned into yet another apartment block.
O/T. Simon, are you aware they are building a "select courtyard development" on the old night club and car park at Alty footie ground!
Phil Rainford
Mar 9 2008, 14:11
[QUOTE]
Originally posted by Simon Arron
[B]Sports Motors used to have a showroom in Hale village (it's hardly a town, Rainford) - it was near the bottom of Cambridge Road, on the far side of Ashley Road (can't remember what the premises are used for now, but it has a tea room upstairs). They used to sell all manner of classic cars and stuff in the 1960s.
The workshop next to the old Bleeding Wolf serviced Renaults in the late 1970s/early 1980s (one of its mechanics smacked my dad's R18 into a wall on the Tatton mile during a test run), but I think the motorsport connection pre-dates that by a decade or two.
Did Sports Motors not sponsor Peter Gethin in Formula 3 and Formula 2 in the late 1960s ( The name Rodney Blower comes to mind?)
With regards to the new town houses being built next to Moss Lane.....just keep getting this picture of the goalkeeper knocking on the door of one of the houses asking for the ball back
Kind regards
Phil
alansart
Mar 9 2008, 15:17
Originally posted by Phil Rainford
With regards to the new town houses being built next to Moss Lane.....just keep getting this picture of the goalkeeper knocking on the door of one of the houses asking for the ball back
Kind regards
Phil [/B]
It won't be the Alty keeper. They have a net behind the posts to stop that
Simon Arron
Mar 9 2008, 15:41
Originally posted by alansart
O/T. Simon, are you aware they are building a "select courtyard development" on the old night club and car park at Alty footie ground!
I was very aware of that. Don't get to watch them as often as I used to, but I keep in touch with matters Alty via the official website and still get to the odd game (senior Arrons remain in Hale, so I visit fairly frequently). I just hope they don't build any houses on the pitch...
Back on the topic, Sports Motors of Manchester sponsored Rodney Bloor's F2 Brabham during the 1960s. I think the Hale dealership was an offshoot.
Simon Arron
Mar 9 2008, 16:38
A bleak day, all told. I can still see Ian Smith walking towards me as I returned to the paddock during the late morning. He bore news of Gilles Villeneuve's accident at Zolder. I went straight to the car to listen to the BBC news and spent the rest of the day hoping, against hope, that there might subsequently be some improvement in his condition. Didn't tune in again until after the Oulton meeting, for fear of what I might hear...
The programme cover was mendacious in the extreme - none of the races featured more than about a dozen cars. Here are a few selected highlights.
Following Phil's earlier posts, here is the full Hewitt racing stable du jour. Top is Bill H in his standard B roadster, middle is Martin Richardson in his modified B and bottom is John H, also in a modified B.
Graham Scarborough illustrates the thinking man's approach to Lodge. Pete Walters gives his sponsor some unintended extra exposure.
Special Saloons that time forgot: Graham Wallwork's Vauxhall Chevette (most of it, anyway).
Ian Smith - Diz
Mar 9 2008, 16:43
I seem to recall that Rodney Bloor was going to make / did make some kind of comeback in 2007 with the HSCC.
It might even have been in a Historic FF1600. I really should know shouldn't I?
No doubt somebody with more time than me will be scouring the HSCC or TSL [nee MST] websites for evidence within seconds of this post.
Phil Rainford
Mar 9 2008, 16:46
Found another shot of Ethel II
While David Gibson fails to blend into the Cheshire countryside......
and future British Touring Car Champion Robb Gravett attempts to break the Guniness World Record for the most stickers ever seen on an MG ;)
Kind regards
Phil
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