Freiburg Schauinsland 1953

Hello to all,

I ' m looking for the result of this hill climb.

For the moment, I have only this :

1° n° ? Hans Herrmann - Porsche
? n° ? Hans Herrmann - Veritas RS
Dna n° 51 Bobby Kohlrausch - BMW
Dna n° 52 Alfred Kurtz - Kurtz
Dna n° 54 Austen May - Cooper JAP
Dna n° 55 Andre Loens - Kieft Norton
? n° 56 Guy Jason-Henry - Kieft Norton
? n° 57 Willy Lehmann - Scampolo 502 BMW
? n° 58 Theo Fitzau - WGW BMW
Dna n° 71 Hellmut Deutz - Scampolo 502 Norton
? n° 72 Adolf Lang - Cooper T15 JAP
? n° 87 Kurt Kuhnke - Cooper JAP
Dna n° 88 Otto Kolan - Cooper JAP
? n° 95 Kurt Ahrens Sr - Cooper Norton
? n° ? Hans Stuck - AFM 50
? n° ? Karl Gunther Bechem - AFM 50
? n° ? Theo Helfrich - Veritas RS
? n° ? Kurt Adolff - Ferrari
? n° ? Hans Klenk - Veritas
? n° ? Jacques Swaters - Ferrari

Can you help me to complete it, with the start number, when is possible.

Thanks to all.

Okay, let's start with Formula 2:

1 Emanuel de Graffenried (CH), #1? Maserati A6GCM/53, 8'01.24"
2 Rudolf Fischer (CH), #34 Ferrari 500F2, 8'07.69"
3 Hans Stuck (D), #21 AFM-Bristol 50, 8'12.17"
4 Alan Brown (GB), Cooper-Bristol, 8'13.73"
5 Kenneth McAlpine (GB), Connaught, 8'20.74"
6 Hans Herrmann (D), Klenk-Veritas, 8'21.31" (spun)
7 Karl-Günther Bechem (D), AFM 50, 8'33.41"

Formula 3:

1 Kurt (Sr.) Ahrens (D), Cooper, 8'52.08"
2 Theo Fitzau (D), Cooper, 9'03.09"
3 Kurt Kuhnke (D), Cooper, 9'12.69"
4 Andre Loens (GB), Kieft, 9'13.17"
5 Willi Lehmann (DDR), BMW-Lehmann, 9'16.05" (possibly already the Scampolo)

Sports Cars 1500cc:

1 Hans Herrmann (D), #141 Porsche, 8'01.30" (said to be a Le Mans car - I'm no expert)
2 Karl-Günther Bechem (D), #138 Borgward, 8'13.90"
3 Hans Stuck (D), Porsche, 8'29.44"
4 Helm Glöckler (D), Porsche, 8'33.06"
5 Adolf Brudes (D), Borgward, 8'39.78"

Sports Cars 1100cc:

1 Francesco Giardini (I), #173 OSCA, 9'00.20"
2 Paul Bulla (D), Porsche, 9'15.47"
3 Otto Mathé (A), Porsche, 9'26.46"
4 Rolf Brandt (D), Porsche, 9'39.30"
5 Bernhard (Gerhard?) Cappenberg (D), Porsche, 9'51.95"

Motor Cycles 500cc:
1 H. P. Müller (D), Horex, 8'02.88" (who he?)
2 Tony McAlpine (AUS), Norton, 8'13.83"
3 Fritz Kläger (D), Gilera, 8'14.90"
4 Werner Gerber (CH), Horex, 8'25.43"
5 Tommy Wood (GB), Norton, 8'29.41"
6 Dibben (GB), Norton, 8'53.32" (can't really recall his first name - Arthur?)

Motor Cycles 350cc:
1 Siegfried Wünsche (D), DKW, 8'04.42"
2 H. P. Müller (D), Horex, 8'09.98"
3 Hans Baltisberger (D), AJS, 8'27.34"
4 Jost Albisser (CH), Norton, 8'29.41"
5 Hans Hötzer (D), AJS, 8'33.17"

Motor Cycles 250cc:
1 Karl Hoffmann (D), DKW, 8'25.00"
2 Tommy Wood (GB), Moto-Guzzi, 8'54.39"
3 Ernst Riedelbauch (D), NSU, 9'17.19"
4 K. H. Kirchner (DDR), 9'19.00"

Motor Cycles 125cc:
1 Bernhard Petruschke (DDR), IFA, 9'21.39"
2 Hubert Luttenberger (D), MV-Agusta, 9'23.96"
3 Xaver Heiß (D), MV-Agusta, 9'48.41"
4 Friedrich Rückert (D), Puch, 10'28.42"

It should be noted that these are the official times, and as such nonsense, because there were two runs made up the hill, and the times added and then probably just diveded by two!

FTD was Siegfried Wünsche (D), DKW 350cc, 7'59.16"
FTD cars: Hans Herrmann (D), Porsche 1500cc, 8'00.1" (approx.)

Ah yeah, and I have a picture ("Das Auto, Motor und Sport" 17/53, p.638) that shows that

Originally posted by starlet
Dna n° 52 Alfred Kurtz - Kurtz

wasn't a DNA at all! It shows a very small racing car carrying #52, and the text:

"The smallest car was brought to the start by the Alsacien Kurtz: a Formula 3 in kiddy car size, with 12" wheels and 210 kg weight, powered by a 52 hp JAP engine."

Interesting that Fischer drove the Ferrari 500 again at this event. He sold the Scuderia Espadon end of 1952 to Rudolf Schoeller, but kept his hands on the older tipo 166/212 which he wanted to use for some national Swiss hill climbs.
In 1953 the participants of the German Championship had fixed race number for the whole year, and #34 was that of Kurt Adolff, who drove the Espadon/Schoeller Ferrari 500 during that season. Is the combination Fischer/Ferrari500/#34 for Freiburg definitively confirmed?

From the first (=provisional) original press bulletin:

Formula 2:

									   practise / 1st run + 2nd run = av. time = av. speed

 1. de Graffenried	   Maserati	   8:05,73 / 8:02,05 + 8:00,42 = 8:01,24 = 89,8 km/h 

 2. Fischer			  Ferrari		8:13,52 / 8:11,31 + 8:04,06 = 8:07,69 = 88,6

 3. Stuck				AFM-Bristol	8:13,12 / 8:10,96 + 8:13,38 = 8:12,17 = 87,8

 4. Brown				Cooper-Bristol 8:29,97 / 8:15,16 + 8:12,30 = 8:13,73 = 87,6

 5. McAlpine			 Connaught	  8:22,03 / 8:22,42 + 8:19,06 = 8:20,74 = 86,3

 6. Herrmann			 Veritas		8:06,36 / 8:33,59 + 8:09,03 = 8:21,31 = 86,2

 7. Bechem			   AFM			8:46,21 / 8:24,79 + 8:42,08 = 8:33,44 = 84,2

 8. Bira				 Connaught	  8:38,42 / 8:27,55 + 8:51,74 = 8:39,65 = 83,1

 9. Helfrich			 Veritas		8:34,07 / 8:50,34 + 8:46,13 = 8:48,24 = 81,8

10. Hummel			   Veritas		9:39,63 / 8:52,29 + 8:50,29 = 8:51,21 = 81,3

11. Seidel			   Veritas		8:53,62 / 8:50,58 + 8:55,20 = 8:52,89 = 81,1

12. Bauer				Veritas		8:46,82 / 8:32,98 + 9:32,67 = 9:02,83 = 79,6

13. Blees				AFM			9:23,63 / 9:23,62 + 9:20,93 = 9:22,28 = 76,8

ret de Tornaco		   Ferrari		8:18,14 / 8:19,53 + ret

ret Barth				EMW			8:26,73 / 8:46,63 + ret

dns Karch				Veritas		9:22,67 / dns

As stated above this is the first bulletin, made by typewriter, and not absolutely free of typing errors. For example 2nd placed man Rudi Fischer´s first name is mismatched with that of Ludiwg Fischer. Also in 10th place is originally listed Kurt Adolff with Hummel´s name added later. But in 1953 championship lists Hummel is regularily awarded the one point for the Schauinsland event, so I assume, that Hummel took over the cockpit of the car. This entry in particular is very confusing, as Adolff was originally listed to drive Fischer´s Ferrari (#34) in Formula 2 and Hummel´s Veritas RS (#134) in the 1500 cc sports car class. So it seems, that to some unknown reason he fell out of both cockpits and even more strange, that Hummel ran his car with the smaller engine in Formula 2.

Here is the original entry list [in brackets: types of car added according to my personal investigations]:

 # 1 Emmanuel de Graffenried (CH)   Maserati [A6GCM/53]

 # 2 Alan Brown (GB)				Cooper-Bristol [T23?]

Officine Maserati:

 # 3 Felice Bonetto (I)			 Maserati - dna

Ecurie Francorchamps:

 # 5 Charles de Tornaco (B)		 Ferrari [500]

 # 7 Hans Blees (Düsseldorf)		AFM[-BMW 1950]

 # 8 Alexander Orley (F!)		   Veritas-Ford Spezial (!) - [dna]

EMW Rennkollektiv Eisenach: 

 # 9 Edgar Barth (Herold)		   EMW [R1/53]

 #10 Louis Chiron (F)			   OSCA - [dna]

 #11 Hans Gerbel (Lörrach)		  BMW-Eigenbau - [dna?] (does not appear in result list)

 #21 Hans Stuck (Grainau)		   AFM-Bristol [1950]

 #22 Wolfgang Seidel (Düsseldorf)   Veritas [RS-BMW]

 #24 Theo Helfrich (Mannheim)	   Veritas [RS-BMW]

 #26 Oswald Karch (Ludwigshafen)	Veritas [RS-BMW]

 #31 Hans Herrmann (Stuttgart)	  Veritas[-BMW "Großmutter" - car driven by Erwin Bauer]

 #34 Kurt E. Adolff (Aachen)		Ferrari [500 - car driven by Rudi Fischer]

additional starters (not in entry list) :

[#14 Bira						   Connaught A-Type]

[#15 Kenneth McAlpine			   Connaught A-Type]

[#16 Karl-Günther Bechem			AFM-BMW 1950 Sport]

[#32 Hans Herrmann				  Klenk/Veritas Meteor]

Formula 3 results will follow tomorrow.

What was the date of the event? From Adolff himself it is known that he retired in resp after the 1953 season in order to follow up his business more closely. What business? As usual in those years - textile factory...!

From memory I think around August, 8th?

Originally posted by Michael Müller
What was the date of the event? From Adolff himself it is known that he retired in resp after the 1953 season in order to follow up his business more closely. What business? As usual in those years - textile factory...!

Perhaps the end of his "personal" season was not absolutely synchrone with that of the official one. And to follow up his business was perhaps the main cause for his retirement, but this might have been somewhat encouraged by other developments. Besides his starts in the Espadon-Ferrari in Formula 2 it also seems, that he had some kind of "works-driver" status in the 1500 class with Veritas, where somehow also Hummel and Pietsch must have been involved to install Adolff in the cockpit of that car. And just around this time came the final breakdown of the Veritas company, so the coincidence of this and the loss of the Ferrari cockpit (for what unknown reason this had happened) might perhaps "helped" him towards this decision.

The event took place the August 9, 1953.

To confirm my last post, here is a link, with which you will can see the programme cover :

http://progcovers.m4.../freiburg53.jpg

So, one week after the German Grand Prix, in which K. Adolff drove perhaps the Ferrari 500.


In the Barchetta website, it is mentioned that Jacques Swaters, with the Ecurie Francorchamps 500 F2 # 0184 F2, was Dns.
According to the informations given by Uechtel, that must be wrong. Or then, it must be a Dna, because the car, always according to Uechtel, was driven by Charles De Tornaco.


Otherwise, Fines, I want to tell you, that I have sent you two e-mails, do you received them ?

As promised yesterday now the results of the Formula 3 class:

 1. Ahrens	  Cooper		  8:54,50 / 8:51,69 + 8:52,46 = 8:52,08 = 81,2

 2. Fitzau	  Cooper		  9:20,43 / 9:02,28 + 9:03,89 = 9:03,09 = 79,6

 3. Kuhnke	  Cooper		  9:16,46 / 9:14,65 + 9:10,73 = 9:12,69 = 78,2

 4. Loens	   Kieft		   9:02,38 / 9:31,91 + 8:54,35 = 9:13,13 = 78,1

 5. Lehmann*	BMW-Eigenbau	9:08,09 / 9:23,37 + 9:08,73 = 9:16,05 = 77,7

 6. Lang		Cooper		  9:19,36 / 9:21,21 + 9:20,18 = 9:20,70 = 77,2

 7. Deutz	   Scampolo		9:09,43 / 9:21,46 + 9:53,69 = 9:37,58 = 74,8

 8. Jason-Henry Kieft		   9:44,71 / 9:47,56 + 9:33,95 = 9:40,71 = 74,5

ret Kurtz	   Kurtz-Eigenbau 10:17,20 / 9:52,92 + ret

Also a look in the entry list:

 51 Bobby Kohlrausch (Eisenach)		 Kohlrausch-Eigenbau [GvB - dna]

 52 Alfred Kurtz (Strasbourg)		   Kurtz-Eigenbau

 54 C. A. N. May (GB)				   Cooper-JAP [dna]

Kieft Cars Ltd.:

 55 <no driver nominated>			   Kieft [car driven by Andre Loens]

 56 Guy Jason-Henry (GB)				Kieft

Willy Zimmermann (Lörrach):

 57 Willy Lehmann (Bitterfeld)		  BMW-Eigenbau

 71 Helmut Deutz (Lüdenscheid)		  Scampolo

 72 Adolf Werner Lang (Bad Mingolsheim) Cooper

 87 Kurt Kuhnke (Braunschweig)		  Cooper

 88 Otto Kolan (Neumünster)			 Cooper [dna]

 95 Kurt Ahrens (Braunschweig)		  Cooper

not in entry list:

[58 Theo Fitzau (Rastatt)			   Cooper]

Alas I have only the one sheet of the press bulletin, so I am lacking the results of the sports car runs (only places 8 to 10 in 1500 category: 8 Rosenhammer, 9 du Puy, 10 Lautenschlager). Besides that all I can give here are the entry lists:

1100 cc

Renngemeinschaft Berlin:

 151 Bernhard Cappenberg (Berlin)		Porsche [Special]

 155 Ludwig Fischer (Bad Reichenhall)	 Porsche 

 157 Richard Trenkel (Bad Harzburg)	  Porsche [Special - dna]

Ludwig Buchberger (München) :

 158 Harry Merkel (München)			  Porsche

 159 Paul Bulla (Gladbeck)			   Porsche

 162 Rolf Brandt (Helmstedt)			 Porsche

 172 Hermann Heibling (CH)			   Fiat/Nardi-Danese

Scuderia San Giorgio:

 173 Francesco Giardini (I)			  OSCA

 174 Cpl. Armando Francois (I)		   OSCA

 175 Helmut Weißenberger (Wehr)		  BMW [dna]

not in entry list:

[124 Otto Mathe (A)					 Porsche]

1500 cc

 121 Hans Stanek (CH)					Porsche

 122 Emmanuel de Graffenried (CH)		OSCA [dna - car driven by John du Puy]

 123 Franz Hammernick (CH)			   BMW

 124 Otto Mathe (A)					   Porsche [dna - started in 1100 class]

 125 Hans Fischhaber (Bad Tölz)		  Lancia [Eigenbau]

 126 Ernst Lautenschlager (Stuttgart)	Veritas [RS]

 131 Helm Glöckler (Frankfurt)		   Porsche

Kurt Adolff (Aachen) :

 134 Josef Hummel (Freiburg)			 Veritas RS

 137 Adolf Brudes (Berlin)			   Borgward [original entry #138]

 138 Karl Günther Bechem (Hagen)		 Borgward [original entry #137]

EMW Rennkollektiv Eisenach:

 139 Arthur Rosenhammer (Dessau)		 EMW [R1/53 1500 Sport]

 140 Hans Stuck (Grainau)				Porsche

 141 Hans Herrmann (Stuttgart)			Porsche

Herrmann, Stuck and Glöckler were obviously in works cars, the rest of the Porsche were specials.

Back to Adolff: I have the following races for him in the Espadon-Ferrari:

31.5.53 Eifelrennen: 4th
12.7.53 Avus: ret (accident)
2.8.53 German GP: ret

Originally posted by uechtel
Back to Adolff: I have the following races for him in the Espadon-Ferrari:
31.5.53 Eifelrennen: 4th
12.7.53 Avus: ret (accident)
2.8.53 German GP: ret

This is was I also have. It seems that there are some doubts that Adolff used in all 3 races the Ferrari 500, especially for the GP Germany some sources say "Ferrari 166". Do you have some photo from the Nürburgring GP?

Err, mmmm, Jason-Henry. Uechtel was the name Guy in the actual race programme? Not so long ago I seem to remember reading that his name was really George. The name Guy appears in all non-contemporary accounts that I have but not in a contemporary race report or programme. ( My short-term memory is probably failing me! )

It might be that the name Guy transferred across to Jason-Henry when some journalists got him confused with Guy Gale who was also racing a French sports car at the same time as Jason-Henry although Gale drove a Talbot and Jason-Henry a Delahaye.

Confirmation anybody; one way or the other?

John

Definitively Guy Jason-Henry in the race programme. But this does not automatically mean, that this is correct.


And Michael, which Ferrari, decide by yourself:

Clearly the tipo 500...
Markus, your knowledge now is required to explain why this photo is talen at the GP and not the Eifelrennen.

With regard to Jason-Henry, Guy or George, I have been trying to think where it was when I read that it should be George. I think it was in an article or book about Rob Walker, the famous entrant of Stirling Moss. For a while Jason-Henry and Walker were in partnership running the Delahaye but the partnership ended abruptly after Le Mans 1949. I don't know why.

The name George was not in Michael Cooper-Evans's book "Private Entrant" because he refers to Jason-Henry as Guy. In was in a more recent article or book, or perhaps an obituary. Anybody?

John

According to me, althought I ' m not a great specialist in these cars, behind the Edgar Barth's EMW BMW, and in front of the Ferrari's Kurt Adolff, there is the Connaught A number 14 of Prince Bira; so it's well a photograph taken during the German GP.
Because, for the Eifelrennen, the number 14 was attributted to Rodney Nuckey in its Cooper T23, who was by the way withdraw.

Thanks a lot Uechtel, to post this picture, because as Michael Müller knows it, I looked for it since a long time now.

Originally posted by starlet
According to me, althought I ' m not a great specialist in these cars, behind the Edgar Barth's EMW BMW, and in front of the Ferrari's Kurt Adolff, there is the Connaught A number 14 of Prince Bira; so it's well a photograph taken during the German GP.
Because, for the Eifelrennen, the number 14 was attributted to Rodney Nuckey in its Cooper T23, who was by the way withdraw.

Thanks a lot Uechtel, to post this picture, because as Michael Müller knows it, I looked for it since a long time now.

...and despite that it has been online all the time: http://8w.forix.com/df2-emw.html

It is definitely from the Grand Prix as I have it from the article covering that event in "Illustrierter Motorsport". Also at the Eifelrennen Adolff was more in the leading group rather than among the backmarkers.

As for identifcation of the cars here´s my original caption in that text:

A historic photograph: the only ever attack of Socialism and a state-owned racing team on the world championship, with Edgar Barth in the EMW (35) leading the backmarkers into the first lap of the German Grand Prix in 1953. Following him are "B. Bira" (14, Connaught A-Type), Kurt Adolff (34, Scuderia Espadon Ferrari 500), Hans Stuck (21, AFM 50-Bristol), probably Theo Helfrich (Veritas RS-BMW), Ernst Klodwig (Eigenbau Heck-BMW) and an as yet unidentified car. The Veritas RS on the top left side of the picture might be the one driven by Oswald Karch (or perhaps Wolfgang Seidel?) with probably Erwin Bauer in the much-modified Veritas Großmutter Special behind him. The hazy streamliner at the back should be Karl-Günther Bechem's self-converted AFM 50-BMW sports car rather than Ernst Loof's new Veritas-Nürburgring RS.

Originally posted by uechtel
...and despite that it has been online all the time: http://8w.forix.com/df2-emw.html

And I have it also in my archive, but of course under "Barth" and "EMW"...

That´s why I always recommend to use the excel file for access to the pictures...

Originally posted by uechtel
That´s why I always recommend to use the excel file for access to the pictures...

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