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Circuit Paul Ricard; first race meeting in 1970

Started by bradbury west , Jan 31 2006 16:50

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#1 bradbury west

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Posted 31 January 2006 - 16:50

Can anyone help me with details of the first race meeting at Paul Ricard when it opened in 1970?
I am anxious to find the entry list and results for the Formula Ford Race

many thanks

Roger Lund.

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#2 Rob29

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Posted 31 January 2006 - 17:50

I don't think they had Formula Ford in France in 1970.Maybe F.Renault? First race at the Ricard circuit I have recorded was on April 19 1970 which was for F3. 30laps of 2.2mil circuit-45 cars started.

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#3 philippe charuest

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Posted 31 January 2006 - 18:50

exact no formule ford in france then, and before 72 the formule renault was call "formule france". a typical national event(ffsa) had a formula 3 race ,a formule france race . and the very popular " coupe gordini" a spec renault 8 gordini series

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#4 2F-001

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Posted 31 January 2006 - 19:07

That April 19th meeting was headlined by a 2-litre Goups 5&6 race, with Bonnier, Redman et al.

According to Autosport, for both the Sports cars and the F3, only 30 starters were allowed on what was the short course. 45 F3's were entered and they practiced in two groups with the fastest making up the grid. The report doesn't cover any other events on the bill.

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#5 bradbury west

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Posted 31 January 2006 - 20:39

Very many thanks for the prompt responses. I was with someone last week who said something about the race which would have had some bearing on my project, extra details etc, but I drew a blank when I tried to check for details. For other reasons I thought the time frame was wrong.

Again many thanks

Roger Lund.

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#6 philippe charuest

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Posted 31 January 2006 - 21:24

sadly i didnt find any result , but i have a french magazine" Virage" of the month before and the official program was a 2 liter european sportscar champ race, a formula 3 race and as expected a formula france and coupe gordini race

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#7 bradbury west

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Posted 13 November 2006 - 22:13

I have now been given to understand that the FFord race in question was in 1971, when a group of British entrants took part in the FFord race at Ricard. I have no other details, but any info which TNFers might have would be welcome so i klnow which way to look further.

Roger Lund.

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#8 Andrew Kitson

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Posted 14 November 2006 - 08:04

From Nick Brittan's book 'The Formula Ford Book' published in '77.

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These photos are the only record of Ricard in the book, no results of that race. They were run I guess under the Walter Hayes inspired FFI umbrella ( Formula Ford International ) to promote and expand the formula into Europe. Interestingly it says in the book that the winner of the FF Euro series in 1970, Claude Bourgoigne, won a spectacular prize - a new Cortina, with a racing car trailer to tow behind it onto which would go a new fully sponsored F3 car for the 1971 season! Imagine that now... the young driver BRDC McLaren Autosport award these days is about one sixth of a decent F3 budget!

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#9 Racing Lines

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Posted 14 November 2006 - 11:43

Hi,

French magazine Sport Auto published a review of that F. Ford race (the first in France ever) : 50 lines in french and the results.

I'm not able to scan this text now, but here is the classification :

1. Dahlquist (S / Merlyn BRM), 30'35''2 (128,059 km/h)
2. harness (GB/ Lotus Novamotor), + 7''
3. Scheckter (ZA/ merlyn Rowland), + 21''
4. Trevelyan (GB/ Crossle JDM), + 27''
5. Sundahl (S/ Merlyn BRM), + 42''
6. Koinig (A/ Lotus Nova), + 51''

I hope this will help...

Do you need the review ?

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#10 bradbury west

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Posted 14 November 2006 - 15:15

This is a wonderful response. Many thanks. At least now I know what I am looking for. A copy of the report would be most useful. French narrative is not a problem.I am trying to trace the race entry and any result for Geoff Oliver in the DRW FFord.

Roger Lund

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#11 Racing Lines

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Posted 15 November 2006 - 06:32

Here is the review.

http://[IMG]http://img207.imageshack.us/img207/4072/ffricard71qf5.th.jpg[/IMG]

(just click to enlarge as I don't know how to do a different way. I hope it will be OK)

best regards

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#12 bradbury west

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Posted 15 November 2006 - 07:42

Very many thanks for posting this. I have the story of the trip down to Ricard from David R Warwick (DRW) and this fills in the extra details along with others generously supplied. (Many thanks Richard). Only on TNF do we get such responses.

again, many thanks to all

Roger Lund.

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#13 bradbury west

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Posted 23 November 2006 - 21:33

Originally posted by Racing Lines
[B]Hi,

French magazine Sport Auto published a review of that F. Ford race (the first in France ever) : 50 lines in french and the results.

4. Trevelyan (GB/ Crossle JDM), + 27''

Was the Formula Ford engine preparation firm JDM the one run by John Miles, as in Lotus racer and engineer John Miles? I am sure he was John D Miles and the other one was John E Miles.

Roger Lund.

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#14 ian senior

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Posted 24 November 2006 - 09:33

Originally posted by bradbury west
Was the Formula Ford engine preparation firm JDM the one run by John Miles, as in Lotus racer and engineer John Miles? I am sure he was John D Miles and the other one was John E Miles.

Roger Lund.

Neither, it was John Manktelow.

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#15 bradbury west

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Posted 24 November 2006 - 12:38

Many thanks, Ian. I was just stabbing in the dark with Miles. Does anyone have any more info on Mr Manktelow? Who? Where now? What else did he do?

Any info is welcome

Roger Lund

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#16 Haine Kane

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Posted 24 November 2006 - 13:21

Hello from France

I've got the book CIRCUIT PAUL RICARD from François CHEVALIER dedicaded himself at the last RETROMOBILE in Paris.

Page 17-18 he said that the first meeting take place in 19 april 1970 with : Voitures de sport de moins de 2 litres , Formule 3 , Formule Renault , Coupe Renault 8 Gordini and Formule Bleue.

The winner in Voitures de sport was Brian REDMAN.

That's all sorry.

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#17 bradbury west

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Posted 24 November 2006 - 14:32

Haine, many thanks for your information

Roger Lund.

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#18 Stefan Ornerdal

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Posted 24 November 2006 - 17:08

I have results for the F3 race, april 19, but it is not complete:

http://www.formula2.net/F370_E5.htm

Anyone who can help with an entry list or start numbers, Pole Position, Fastest Lap... etc?

And... anyone else who have problems with opening "Racing Lines" image of the review of the race? When opening the file, I got all sorts of pop-up windows, error messages, advertising from some sort of company called "Clean your computer". And my whole system goes down for a while, act spooky for a few minutes, and finally the computer closes down completely.

Annoying.

I can assure you that I have all the latest virus protections, firewalls, etc.

Stefan
www.formula2.net
stefan.ornerdal@minmail.net

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#19 Andreh

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Posted 02 January 2008 - 11:41

Hello all.
I am looking for info on the 1970 2-litre sports car race that opened the circuit. Photos would be appreciated.
Had a look on the net and couldnt find any, and figured only you guys would be able to help me.

Thank you!

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#20 HEROS

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Posted 02 January 2008 - 13:03

Hello Andreh,

Here are some informations on the Paul Ricard International Trophy held in April, 19 1970. As we know, it was a Sport 2L race with 30 cars entered.

The race used the 3,264 km circuit and the distance was 100 laps, the pole position was taken by Jo Bonnier on Lola Ford T 210 in 1' 21" 4.

The final ranking gives:
1. Brian Redman Chevron Ford FVC B16
2. Jo Bonnier Lola Ford FVC T 210
3. John Burton Chevron Ford FVC B16
4. Mario Casoni Abarth 2000 S
5. Ian Skailes Chevron Ford FVC B16
6. Ed Swart Abarth 2000 S
7. "POGO" Abarth 2000 S
8. Eris Tondelli Abarth 2000 S
9. Henri Balas Porsche 911 T
10. Michel Vial Alpine Renault A 110 1300 S

The fastest lap was for Jo Bonnier, with a time of 1' 21" 1.

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#21 Andreh

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Posted 02 January 2008 - 20:18

Thank you for the fast answer!

Im from a modding group for the rFactor sim, and we are releasing a mod covering the 1970 WSC championship. Our first release will be some S2000 cars and by coincidence we just got the Paul Ricard track to release too. When I was looking for nice programmes from Paul Ricard I found out that the inaugural race was with those very 2000 cars

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Do you have ani idea if we can find any pics from this race?

Thank you again

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#22 stuartu

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Posted 28 March 2009 - 12:47

Originally posted by bradbury west
Many thanks, Ian. I was just stabbing in the dark with Miles. Does anyone have any more info on Mr Manktelow? Who? Where now? What else did he do?

Any info is welcome

Roger Lund

Both Roger and I would like to know the fate of John Manktelow, in my case because he owned a sister car to one of mine.

A little more info has surfaced since Roger's post, so I thought I would bring it to the surface for a moment.

Mr. Manktelow was undoubtedly associated with Willy Griffiths Engineering at Culford Gardens, Chelsea in October 1960. Incidentally the premises (no. 18) would now appear to be a boutique which, I am told, was favoured by the late Princess Diana.

Thanks to Ian Senior, we know he built the engine for Crossle that "John Trevelyan" used in 1971. I wonder if "John Trevelyan" is still with us? Apart from his drives in the Sports 2000 Lola (well covered on this forum) I believe he raced Renault 5TS.

I am told that Mr. M's background to Ford engine building came from building engines for rally Escorts.

As Roger has remarked in another post, I was informed (by J. Ibell) that Mr. M was last heard of running a garage in or around Aylesbury and that he had emigrated - destination unknown.

Very grateful for any light anyone can shed on the whereabouts of Mr. Manktelow or, come to that, "John Trevelyan".

Regards, Stuart Ulph

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#23 bradbury west

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Posted 02 April 2009 - 21:22

I have come across correspondence from John Manktelow at Grasmere Close, Dunstable, in 1971, and JDM Racing Developments are listed in the '72 FFord booklet issued by Autosport in Feb '72 as being at 24 Oldbury Place. W1. At the same time John Trevelyan was advertising his Crossle 20F with a works JDM engine, plus spare engine, from an East Grinstead number. The name escapes me but ISTR another driver entered under the JDM banner.
Roger Lund

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#24 stuartu

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Posted 05 April 2009 - 09:00

Roger, I am in danger of hijacking this thread with my search for Mr. Manktelow, so I have sent an update to your email. Apologies to others reading, I shall cease to impose!

Regards, Stuart

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#25 bradbury west

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Posted 27 January 2010 - 14:32

I am pleased to advise Forum Members who might be interested that John Manktelow is still with us, living in retirement, and is on very good form.
Roger Lund

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#26 Graham Gauld

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Posted 27 January 2010 - 17:41

Reference the 40th anniversary of Paul Ricard I was at the circuit last Sunday for the final round in the Winter Series they have been running for Formula Le Mans and GT cars. They had no fewer than eleven Oreca built Courage-Chevrolets taking part so it was quite spectacular. I will attach a photo out of interest.

However the Director of the circuit Gerard Neveu is making plans for a 4oth Anniversary day on Sunday July 18 at the circuit. They plan to have a few things going on but nothing has been finalised. I think there will be demonstrations and I think they are planning to invite various people with cars that raced at Paul Ricard over the past 40 years as well as drivers etc. No doubt there will be a motor sport memorabilia area and so on but I will forward any information as soon as I find out.

For the record if anyone is planning a holiday in the South of France the following dates cover the main events at the Circuit.

April 10/11 Round of the Le Mans Series, the 8 Hours of Castellet

April 24 Races for cars in the Tour Auto

July 3/4 Round in the FIA World GT Championship

September 4/5 A sports and gt car endurance event organised V de V

September 18/19 GT Sprint Superstars ?

October 9/10 The 10,000 laps of Castellet. Presumably a long distance event.

October 30/31 Grand Prix Historique de Provence. the big historic meeting.

The photo below shows the cheeky Radical with its Suzuki V8 engine driven by Frederic Rouvier which held second place against all the 6 litre Corvette engined Formula Le Mans Courages. As you can see three of them are lining up and all three eventually got past but only after about twenty minutes of hard racing.

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#27 JohnTrevelyan

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Posted 20 June 2010 - 18:52

Hi,

French magazine Sport Auto published a review of that F. Ford race (the first in France ever) : 50 lines in french and the results.

I'm not able to scan this text now, but here is the classification :

1. Dahlquist (S / Merlyn BRM), 30'35''2 (128,059 km/h)
2. harness (GB/ Lotus Novamotor), + 7''
3. Scheckter (ZA/ merlyn Rowland), + 21''
4. Trevelyan (GB/ Crossle JDM), + 27''
5. Sundahl (S/ Merlyn BRM), + 42''
6. Koinig (A/ Lotus Nova), + 51''

I hope this will help...

Do you need the review ?

The review would be very interesting if it were still available.

John Trevelyan

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#28 bradbury west

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Posted 20 June 2010 - 19:31

John, welcome to TNF.
I can send you a copy of an English language race report for the Ricard race as well as the Sport Auto version, if you send me a Personal Message with your e mail - see members' profile link. I would like to ask for your recollections of certain aspects of FFord in 69/71 for reasons which I will explain via e mail.
Roger Lund