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Please help me with my father's photo archive

Started by bidochon , Jan 03 2008 18:09

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#1 bidochon

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Posted 03 January 2008 - 18:09

find in the archives of my father : who ? when ? where ?

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#2 bidochon

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Posted 03 January 2008 - 18:11

and other picture

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#3 Paul Taylor

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Posted 03 January 2008 - 18:16

Is it the Jersey Road Race of 5/8/1947?

That would fit in with the Maserati 4CLs at the front of the grid in the first photo and the two ERA B's in the second photo, Bill Cotton and Leslie Brooke, respectively.

Car #1, #2, #3 and #4 in the first photo would be Louis Chiron, Nello Pagani, Raymond Sommer and Prince Bira.

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Posted 03 January 2008 - 18:19

The first photo is the Start of the 1947 Jersey International Road Race at St. Helier.
The second photo is the same race, with Wilkie Wilkinson's ERA leading Les Brooke's ERA, and Barrie Woodall struggling to control his Delage in the background.

Great pictures - thank you for posting them

#5 bidochon

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Posted 03 January 2008 - 18:34

the start in Pau 1947 , the names of the drivers write by my father in the bottom

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#6 Paul Taylor

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Posted 03 January 2008 - 18:47

These are wonderful photos, bidochon

#7 fines

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Posted 03 January 2008 - 20:19

More! More! More!

#8 bidochon

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Posted 03 January 2008 - 22:52

rallye Paris Evian , year ? the Italian driver : Molinari a friend of my father ( my father is the man who look front) the car : Fiat / Gordini or Gordini /Fiat ?....... my father was race mechanic

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#9 bidochon

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Posted 03 January 2008 - 23:01

what a wonderful helmet ! but without Hans system , the race : bol d'or in the forest of Saint Germain en Laye near Paris , year 1948 , my father with a cigarette is on the left of the picture , my brother is the young boy behind the car

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#10 Rob G

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Posted 04 January 2008 - 01:20

These photos are fantastic. Than you very much for sharing them with us. :up:

#11 dretceterini

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Posted 04 January 2008 - 02:16

Originally posted by bidochon
rallye Paris Evian , year ? the Italian driver : Molinari a friend of my father ( my father is the man who look front) the car : Fiat / Gordini or Gordini /Fiat ?....... my father was race mechanic

The car appears to be a Gordini modified Simca Cinq

#12 Ray Bell

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Posted 04 January 2008 - 02:27

Not much difference between Simca and Fiat at that time at all... Simca made Fiat under licence, IIRC...

Great pictures, right in the thick of things at the time, please keep them coming!

#13 Lotus23

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Posted 04 January 2008 - 02:34

Great stuff, bidochon -- keep them coming!

I particularly liked post #5 (Pau 1947): for once, Pierre Levegh is noted in a setting other than LeMans.

And the ubiquitous dangling Galoise cigarettes, which were still a fixture in France when I first arrived there in '60.

#14 cosworth bdg

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Posted 04 January 2008 - 03:55

Originally posted by Lotus23

And the ubiquitous dangling Galoise cigarettes, which were still a fixture in France when I first arrived there in '60.

They are on the market here, a good friend of mine here chain smokes these.......

#15 Ray Bell

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Posted 04 January 2008 - 09:32

Originally posted by cosworth bdg
They are on the market here, a good friend of mine here chain smokes these.......

I'll bet they're uncomfortable to spend time with...

#16 cosworth bdg

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Posted 04 January 2008 - 10:30

Originally posted by Ray Bell

I'll bet they're uncomfortable to spend time with...

Ray you are not wrong there........

#17 Allen Brown

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Posted 04 January 2008 - 10:38

Wonderful pictures!

#18 Lotus23

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Posted 04 January 2008 - 16:13

Smell is the strongest stimulant of memory: nowadays, on those rare occasions when I get a pungent whiff of a Galoise, suddenly I'm 22 years old and back in Paris again!

#19 bidochon

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Posted 04 January 2008 - 23:08

other documents already show on a french forum , excuse me it's write in french , my father review the engine of mister Becquart in the lounge of our apartment !!! ( black work ) and the hotchkis won Monte Carlo in 2008 january ... in this time my father was chief mechanic at Roger Dého garage

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#20 bidochon

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Posted 04 January 2008 - 23:10

a picture of the winner

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#21 Doug Nye

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Posted 04 January 2008 - 23:44

Wonderful material - if only more mechanic's sons and families realised how much interest there can be in "Dad's old stuff"... Thanks so much Bidochon for sharing it...

DCN

#22 fines

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Posted 05 January 2008 - 09:23

Seconded!

#23 Gerard Gamand

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Posted 05 January 2008 - 09:34

Bidochon,

Je suis impressionné !!

#24 bidochon

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Posted 05 January 2008 - 09:56

merci , ça a l'air d'intéresser , en fait il y a beaucoup de photos mais elle sont un peu éparpillées dans la famille , j'éssaye de les rassembler et d'en faire profiter ...j'ai trouvé un vieux numéro du mensuel Salut Les Mytos (SLM) et j'espère y trouver une photo de ton ami François !

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Posted 05 January 2008 - 10:38

Originally posted by bidochon
merci , ça a l'air d'intéresser , en fait il y a beaucoup de photos mais elle sont un peu éparpillées dans la famille , j'éssaye de les rassembler et d'en faire profiter ...j'ai trouvé un vieux numéro du mensuel Salut Les Mytos (SLM) et j'espère y trouver une photo de ton ami François !

Baby babelfisher here :blush:

thank you, that seems to interest, makes some there are many photographs but it are scattered a little in the family, I éssaye to gather them and to make some profit... I found an old number of the monthly magazine Salut Mytos (SLM) and I hope to find there a photograph of your friend François!

#26 Bruno

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Posted 05 January 2008 - 11:31

extraordinaires photo Bidochon, merci.

la cigarette c'était une Gauloise, Disque Bleue ou une P4. (non pas une 330)

#27 Sharman

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Posted 05 January 2008 - 11:49

Originally posted by bidochon
find in the archives of my father : who ? when ? where ?

Would the bloke in the foreground be the Earl Howe. looks like his cap?

#28 bidochon

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Posted 05 January 2008 - 12:09

thank's 275 GB 4 for the translation (salut les mythos = french humour)
bruno : ça devait certainement ètre une gaul

#29 bidochon

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Posted 05 January 2008 - 21:17

the father : Yves Prat

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#30 bidochon

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Posted 05 January 2008 - 21:37

and two of his three son : my brother Jean Jacques at the wheel and me , the car is the same , i remenber the nickname of this car { DRIN - DRIN } sports car with two seater , alloy bodywork ( i think ) fiat engine
colour : red sorry but i d'nt remember more ...... very difficult .... what is this car ?
if a day i meet you you can see ....... i have not more changed !

http://gallery.mac.c.../100050/photo d

#31 bidochon

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Posted 05 January 2008 - 21:46

i take the wheel too late for to become a great champion , in this time we can go up two drivers in a gordini

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#32 bidochon

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Posted 05 January 2008 - 21:49

the race in the blood ! very early

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#33 bidochon

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Posted 05 January 2008 - 21:58

my first own racing car ! and already the fuel during the race , look my bonnet : as Maurice Trintignant

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#34 bidochon

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Posted 05 January 2008 - 22:02

in high speed on the track

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#35 RTH

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Posted 05 January 2008 - 22:06

Fascinating photographs !

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Posted 05 January 2008 - 22:12

Luvverly!

#37 bidochon

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Posted 06 January 2008 - 19:35

monthlery front the wood pits my brother in board of the Dého Simca ...year 49/50

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#38 bidochon

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Posted 06 January 2008 - 19:40

the Dého.... and the other car also Dého ? ......... and a bike !

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#39 Ray Bell

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Posted 06 January 2008 - 20:33

Please keep them coming...

We are greedy people, this kind of fantastic stuff we can never get enough!

#40 Lotus23

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Posted 06 January 2008 - 20:47

bidochon, terrific photos! Keep them coming!

I first got to Montlhery in 1960, and I believe those wooden pits had disappeared by then.

Your pere looks like a pretty tough hombre. (One sentence, 3 languages; I need to back away from the keyboard.)

#41 David Beard

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Posted 06 January 2008 - 21:27

What a lovely thread! :love:

#42 bidochon

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Posted 06 January 2008 - 22:48

french permit for drive the racing cars

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#43 Bonde

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Posted 06 January 2008 - 23:03

Excellent stuff, Bidochon! :up:

Have you posted on the 'Memoires des stands' site?

At very, very few places other than TNF would material such as this be shared with a genuinely appreciative wider audience...just one reason I check out TNF virtually every day...

#44 dretceterini

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Posted 07 January 2008 - 01:02

Originally posted by bidochon
and two of his three son : my brother Jean Jacques at the wheel and me , the car is the same , i remenber the nickname of this car { DRIN - DRIN } sports car with two seater , alloy bodywork ( i think ) fiat engine
colour : red sorry but i d'nt remember more ...... very difficult .... what is this car ?
if a day i meet you you can see ....... i have not more changed !

http://gallery.mac.c.../100050/photo d

The Drin Drin was a barchetta bodied Fiat Topolino engined 750cc sports car with a Testadoro cylinder head (cross pushrods, like a BMW 328) built by Giusti's Casa 'dell Auto. I have a photo of the car at Circuito di Varese in 1947. I know nothing of the car in France!

Link to photo of the Giusti Testadoro Drin Drin

#45 GIGLEUX

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Posted 07 January 2008 - 17:49

There was another Testadoro with left hand drive. Two were entered at the 1947 Coupe du Salon at Montlhéry on 16/11/1947. Drivers: Giusti and Jannin. Only Jannin started (left hand drive car) and retired early during the race.

#46 dretceterini

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Posted 07 January 2008 - 18:08

As far as I am aware, there were only 9 Testadoros built in total. Here is a link to a photo of the only other barchetta I am aware of, but again, I don't know anything about the cars being in France

The other Testadoros, as far as I am aware, were siluros, with motorcycle fenders, and called the Tipo Marinella and Daniela

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Posted 07 January 2008 - 22:13

Bidochon, What wonderful photos!

TNF is such a great place for sharing them. Thank so much!! :clap:

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#48 bidochon

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Posted 07 January 2008 - 23:18

M dretceterini thank you for your answer , your last picture (left hand drive) is exactly the same i remember
now , i hope to find a picture were you can see the front of the car , this car is certainly one of the two cars who raced in monthlery in 47 ... thank's M Gigleux ... our car come certainly by M Molinari (an Italian old driver friend of my father) i remember my father to say : that car is not very clean (without papers) certainly come from italy by smuggler (other time !) the complete car in working order finish in the scrap in the year 59/60 because my father's garage was too small !!!
Mister Molinari lived in Paris , he was the manager of the restaurant inside the veldhiv where been raced the bike race called : SIX JOURS

#49 dretceterini

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Posted 08 January 2008 - 02:13

Originally posted by bidochon
M dretceterini thank you for your answer , your last picture (left hand drive) is exactly the same i remember
now , i hope to find a picture were you can see the front of the car , this car is certainly one of the two cars who raced in monthlery in 47 ... thank's M Gigleux ... our car come certainly by M Molinari (an Italian old driver friend of my father) i remember my father to say : that car is not very clean (without papers) certainly come from italy by smuggler (other time !) the complete car in working order finish in the scrap in the year 59/60 because my father's garage was too small !!!
Mister Molinari lived in Paris , he was the manager of the restaurant inside the veldhiv where been raced the bike race called : SIX JOURS

If any parts, especially the motor of the Testadro still exist, please let me know. I would be interested in purchasing them !!!

#50 bidochon

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Posted 08 January 2008 - 09:38

sorry the whole car and all parts in the dustbin ! si l'on savait.........

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