Kimi pushes Photographer!!! -VIDEO-
#1
Posted 06 July 2008 - 22:04
-Video-
http://www.youtube.c...feature=related
THAT'S THE PICTURE THE PHOTOGRAPHER TOOK DURING HIS... FALL
#3
Posted 06 July 2008 - 22:10
looks like the photographer was standing on the bag? Kimi looks down first then pushes him.
#4
Posted 06 July 2008 - 22:12
#5
Posted 06 July 2008 - 22:12
Kimi assaults him.
Basic thuggery.
#6
Posted 06 July 2008 - 22:14
#7
Posted 06 July 2008 - 22:15
Originally posted by D A
Here is the view from the photographer: http://img233.images...konen1lgbv8.jpg
Sad story, but that picture
#8
Posted 06 July 2008 - 22:17
#9
Posted 06 July 2008 - 22:17
Originally posted by Barri
Cracking pic!!! maybe kimi should do it more often!!!
#10
Posted 06 July 2008 - 22:19
Originally posted by pacificquay
The photographer was doing his job, and accidentally steps on Kimi's stuff on the ground.
Kimi assaults him.
Basic thuggery.
Pushing someone off of your equipment is not assault...common kimi was acting like a numpty but calling that assault is a bit much :-)
#11
Posted 06 July 2008 - 22:20
But, hey, Kimi drives a Ferrari, which means he is angelic.
#12
Posted 06 July 2008 - 22:20
No, assault is merely putting someone in fear of a battery. Pushing someone is indeed a battery.Originally posted by kar
Pushing someone off of your equipment is not assault...common kimi was acting like a numpty but calling that assault is a bit much :-)
#13
Posted 06 July 2008 - 22:22
#14
Posted 06 July 2008 - 22:24
Originally posted by ensign14
Shame it wasn't Hamilton doing the pushing. Then we could have enjoyed a 57 page thread on why he should be banned for life and McLaren expelled from the world title race for the next forty years.
I was thinking that earlier We'd be on page 100 by now.
#15
Posted 06 July 2008 - 22:24
Originally posted by ensign14
No, assault is merely putting someone in fear of a battery. Pushing someone is indeed a battery.
Had to do some googling, as always you're right :-)
Learn something new everyday I guess I wonder if the photographer has a bruised bottom kimi will have caused actual bodily harm or something Maybe McLaren should press for charges and get him tied up for the German Grand Prix.
#16
Posted 06 July 2008 - 22:26
#17
Posted 06 July 2008 - 22:27
#18
Posted 06 July 2008 - 22:28
Originally posted by silver fan
Considering the guy was effictivly standing on Raikkonen's kit bag then he was asking for trouble, so no harm no foul.
Not effectively, he was.
#19
Posted 06 July 2008 - 22:28
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#20
Posted 06 July 2008 - 22:28
Kimi
#21
Posted 06 July 2008 - 22:29
#22
Posted 06 July 2008 - 22:30
very poor behaviour, what's wrong with saying "excuse me" ... i'm sure that's what Heikki the Niceman would have done.
picking on people that can't fight back (access to that FIA photo-vest pays his mortgage), is the low actions of the spoilt bully. poor show.
he might want to remember that all those logos on his racesuit, that fund his multi-million dollar lifestyle, and allow him to play at racing-cars, only exist becuase of the cameras and the photographers.
hopefully some pap with a long lens catches kimi banging someone he shouldn't, karma's a bitch.
#23
Posted 06 July 2008 - 22:31
Originally posted by kar
Not effectively, he was.
How do you know that.
It doesn't show in the video .
Do you have some proof?
#24
Posted 06 July 2008 - 22:34
#25
Posted 06 July 2008 - 22:37
Originally posted by ensign14
Shame it wasn't Hamilton doing the pushing. Then we could have enjoyed a 57 page thread on why he should be banned for life and McLaren expelled from the world title race for the next forty years.
But, hey, Kimi drives a Ferrari, which means he is angelic.
#26
Posted 06 July 2008 - 22:41
Maybe some of these logos are there because of his down to earth attitude? Would you never consider to push someone away, who is getting disturbingly close without your acceptance?Originally posted by archstanton
he might want to remember that all those logos on his racesuit, that fund his multi-million dollar lifestyle, and allow him to play at racing-cars, only exist becuase of the cameras and the photographers.
#27
Posted 06 July 2008 - 22:42
Originally posted by kar
Not effectively, he was.
He most certainly was not.
#28
Posted 06 July 2008 - 22:43
Two for the show,
Three to get ready,
Now go, cat, go.
But dont you step on my red suede shoes.
You can do anything but lay off of my red suede shoes.
Well, you can knock me down,
Step in my face,
Slander my name
All over the place.
Do anything that you want to do, but uh-uh,
Dude, lay off of my shoes
Dont you step on my red suede shoes.
You can do anything but lay off of my red suede shoes.
You can burn my house,
Steal my car,
Drink my liquor
From an old fruitjar.
Do anything that you want to do, but uh-uh,
Dude, lay off of my shoes
Dont you step on my red suede shoes.
You can do anything but lay off of my red suede shoes.
#29
Posted 06 July 2008 - 22:49
#30
Posted 06 July 2008 - 22:53
Originally posted by archstanton
very poor behaviour, what's wrong with saying "excuse me" ... i'm sure that's what Heikki the Niceman would have done.
The photographer first almost hit Kimi with the lens, and stands on top of Kimis stuff. Given the perfect opportunity... I would have pushed him awell.
Somehow I doubt the photographer said "excuse me" before stepping into Kimis private sphere.
#31
Posted 06 July 2008 - 22:55
As ensign said, if it was Lewis, (can you imagine if it was MS!) then there'd be outrage.
Poor form kimi
#32
Posted 06 July 2008 - 22:57
#33
Posted 06 July 2008 - 22:59
#34
Posted 06 July 2008 - 23:02
Get a lilfe...
#35
Posted 06 July 2008 - 23:03
Motormedia
#36
Posted 06 July 2008 - 23:04
Originally posted by Henrik Brodin
The photographer first almost hit Kimi with the lens, and stands on top of Kimis stuff. Given the perfect opportunity... I would have pushed him awell.
Somehow I doubt the photographer said "excuse me" before stepping into Kimis private sphere.
yes, and given the opportunity, anyone shoving me on my arse, i'd have got up and put his lights out. he'd have went down like a sack of **** ... i'd panel him.
the photographer didn't go near him, other than the standard wide-angle, fill flash shot that gets taken a million times a year, and shows up on the calendars that kimi helps himself to a percentage of, mostly bought by the kind of fan/saps that line up to defend a bully assaulting someone going about their job.
kimi has no private sphere on an F1 grid ... he lost that when he signed a 51million dollar a year contract, a contract financed exclusively from media and publicity. he'll try that **** with someone serious one day and come a right cropper
#37
Posted 06 July 2008 - 23:10
Originally posted by ensign14
Shame it wasn't Hamilton doing the pushing. Then we could have enjoyed a 57 page thread on why he should be banned for life and McLaren expelled from the world title race for the next forty years.
But, hey, Kimi drives a Ferrari, which means he is angelic.
sums it up quite well imo
#38
Posted 06 July 2008 - 23:10
#39
Posted 06 July 2008 - 23:12
So where are they?Originally posted by undersquare
They should know where the limits are.
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#40
Posted 06 July 2008 - 23:12
Originally posted by archstanton
kimi has no private sphere on an F1 grid ... he lost that when he signed a 51million dollar a year contract
You're obviously jealous. What does money have to do with it?
#41
Posted 06 July 2008 - 23:16
Originally posted by Buttoneer
So where are they?
Well, I would say the distance the video guy and all the other photographers are. Looked like 2-3 metres.
#42
Posted 06 July 2008 - 23:20
Exactly my point.Originally posted by undersquare
Well, I would say
#43
Posted 06 July 2008 - 23:23
Certainly not within 30cm...Originally posted by Buttoneer
So where are they?
The driver needs at least 1.5m when preparing to race. I think there are many drivers who dont allow unauthorized people near them.
#44
Posted 06 July 2008 - 23:25
Originally posted by undersquare
Well, I would say the distance the video guy and all the other photographers are. Looked like 2-3 metres.
What planet are you from? I have taken photos on the grid of some quite big events and I've been a lot closer than 2-3 meters and that goes for a lot of my colleagues too. The only limit that was crossed was by Kimi. Besides, it is Kimi who leans into the camera. It was an accident and no need for shoving.
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#45
Posted 06 July 2008 - 23:26
Originally posted by micra_k10
Certainly not within 30cm...
The driver needs at least 1.5m when preparing to race. I think there are many drivers who dont allow unauthorized people near them.
Wow, I need to check that next time I'm working.
Motormedia
#46
Posted 06 July 2008 - 23:26
Originally posted by rolf123
You're obviously jealous. What does money have to do with it?
it's not about me, it's about a bully pushing someone around because he can get away with it. would he have pushed luca over if he had accidentally stood on his bag.
the money is the whole ****in point, are you joking?
where exactly do you think each of those 51million comes from, out of the goodness of Philip Morris/Etihad/Shell stockholders heart ... they only pay that money because of the coverage. his choice to sign that contract makes him a public figure, and a promotional tool, and his responsibility is to behave appropriately to the "little people" that effectively are paying his wages.
no photos, no show, it's that easy,
and it's unbelievable that i had to waste a paragraph explaining that.
but **** all that, you don't push people about just because you are rich and famous, that's the behaviour of a *******, he needs an attitude adjustment.
#47
Posted 06 July 2008 - 23:27
Originally posted by Motormedia
What planet are you from? I have taken photos on the grid of some quite big events and I've been a lot closer than 2-3 meters and that goes for a lot of my colleagues too. The only limit that was crossed was by Kimi. Besides, it is Kimi who leans into the camera. It was an accident and no need for shoving.
Motormedia
It wasn't an accident it was incompetence (on the photographer's part).
But still, there _was_ no need for shoving.
As for feeling sorry for the photographer...it's harder to feel sorry for them at the best of times but particularly when they are displaying zero awareness of their environment.
#48
Posted 06 July 2008 - 23:27
Kimi
#49
Posted 06 July 2008 - 23:27
Originally posted by Buttoneer
Exactly my point.
That they're not precisely defined, you mean? I would think the standard would certainly include "don't get in the drivers' way on the grid", and "don't stand on the teams' equipment"
If you stop the video at about 5-6 seconds you can see all the other photographers are in a circle around kimi, close but at a reasonable distance, and he was inside that circle, having seflishly pushed in.
#50
Posted 06 July 2008 - 23:29
Yeah right alas not everybody is a big bad internet hero like archstantonOriginally posted by archstanton
yes, and given the opportunity, anyone shoving me on my arse, i'd have got up and put his lights out. he'd have went down like a sack of **** ... i'd panel him.
Anyway, just shows that there's too much people on the F1 grid, who needs 500 photographers taking the same pics or the many many "VIPS".
Just let the drivers get ready in peace and quiet, there's no need for all those people to be on the grid.
Because of incidents like this, it might be very well possible that next race Kimi or other drivers have two security types with them on the grid pushing intrusive idiots away for them.
Or they might go the MotoGP route and erect a silly little fence around the car and driver on the grid.