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Massa's 2008 Kart Challenge, feat MS, Jeff Gordon, etc

Started by molive , Nov 19 2008 23:42

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#1 molive

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Posted 19 November 2008 - 23:42

The "Challenge of the Stars" will take place for the 3rd consecutive year in Florianopolis, south of Brazil, on November 29th and 30th.

Last year was great, check the vid.

Confirmed drivers:

F-1:

Felipe Massa
Michael Schumacher (last year's champ, the man to beat).
Vitantonio Liuzzi
Rubens Barrichello
Lucas di Grassi
Luca Badoer (to be confirmed)

F- Indy:

Tony Kanaan
Vítor Meira

Nascar:

Jeff Gordon

F-Superliga:

Antonio Pizzonia

FIA GT:

Xandinho Negrão

Grand-Am:

Cristiano da Matta :up:

:up:

ALMS:

Ricardo Zonta

Super GT Japan:

João Paulo Oliveira

Ex-MotoGP:

Alexandre Barros

Brazilian Stock Car:

Ricardo Maurício
Marcos Gomes
Thiago Camilo
Cacá Bueno
Luciano Burti
Popó Bueno
Allam Khodair
Max Wilson
Tarso Marques

Should be great, live coverage should happen again this year!

#2 BiH

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Posted 20 November 2008 - 00:34

great lineup

jeff gordon quite a surprise !

just missing bruno senna and piquet jr

#3 molive

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Posted 20 November 2008 - 01:40

Globo TV just announced they'll broadcast it live! :up:

#4 TwoCents

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Posted 20 November 2008 - 10:03

I'm SOOO looking forward to this!

Go Jeff Gordon.

#5 bankoq

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Posted 20 November 2008 - 10:26

Kubica was announced he will take part but had to withdraw because of some PR events :

I'd love to see one day all F1 drivers in karts in equal machinery

#6 Maldwyn

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Posted 20 November 2008 - 10:43

Closer to home for those of us in the UK is Johnny Herbert's annual charity kart event at The Raceway, Docklands, London on Sunday 23 November 2008. This event has been running for more than 10yrs and last year rasied £20,000 for The Warwickshire and Northamptonshire Air Ambulance.

Some of those taking part this year include: Johnny Mowlem, Darren Cambell, Tina Hobly, Nick Mason, Riccardo Patrese, Emanuele Pirro, Louise Goodman, Ted Kravitz, Richard Dean & Danny Watts.

#7 potmotr

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Posted 20 November 2008 - 11:04

Originally posted by bankoq

I'd love to see one day all F1 drivers in karts in equal machinery

It has happened... remember the end of season karting at Bercy in France?

Senna and Prost absolutely going for it.

http://uk.youtube.co...h?v=D0Sg8it4ZbY

I think the best thing about this was that the karts were very pure.

Two stroke, 100CC and clearly very quick.

It was great to see many, many names from the 1993 season racing at the end of it like this.

And Prost still won!

#8 Atreiu

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Posted 20 November 2008 - 11:09

There should be a parallel kart championship.

I'd rather see that than some awkward and perhaps meaningless sprint race on a saturday morning of a GP weekend.

#9 Levike

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Posted 20 November 2008 - 11:20

Originally posted by potmotr

It has happened... remember the end of season karting at Bercy in France?

Senna and Prost absolutely going for it.

http://uk.youtube.co...h?v=D0Sg8it4ZbY

I think the best thing about this was that the karts were very pure.

Two stroke, 100CC and clearly very quick.

It was great to see many, many names from the 1993 season racing at the end of it like this.

And Prost still won!

Prost Team !

It was a team-based event. I remember that i was very disappointed that Senna had to retire with car failure.
I remember that it was his own kart or just his own white sidepods or something...

#10 Hacklerf

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Posted 20 November 2008 - 11:51

when is the Massa race?

#11 potmotr

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Posted 20 November 2008 - 12:15

Originally posted by Levike

Prost Team !
It was a team-based event. I remember that i was very disappointed that Senna had to retire with car failure.

From memory all the karts were supplied by the organisers.

Senna was really going for it all meeting.

In one of the qualifying races he buried it in the tyres quite heavily.

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Posted 20 November 2008 - 21:12

Originally posted by bankoq
Kubica was announced he will take part but had to withdraw because of some PR events :

Just like last year... Although last year his reason was that he was negotiationg his new BMW contract at the time of the race.

It's pretty sad, because I was really glad that he would go. He seems to be a passionate kart racer. :

#13 TwoCents

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Posted 20 November 2008 - 22:31

Yes, the 'secret' kart race between him and Alonso a while ago was epic, would have loved to see those two joining in this year.

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Posted 20 November 2008 - 23:58

Bruno Senna doesn't generally attend because he hasn't touched a kart for 14 years or something like that.

#15 Maldwyn

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Posted 21 November 2008 - 08:06

Originally posted by Juan Kerr
Bruno Senna doesn't generally attend because he hasn't touched a kart for 14 years or something like that.

I think you'll find that Bruno Senna has taken part in Johnny Herbert's karting event - photos

#16 molive

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Posted 21 November 2008 - 11:38

Originally posted by Juan Kerr
Bruno Senna doesn't generally attend because he hasn't touched a kart for 14 years or something like that.

IIRC Bruno took part in Massa's race last year.

Hacklerf,the racing is on November 29th and 30th. It should in youtube soon afterwards.

#17 Hacklerf

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Posted 21 November 2008 - 12:06

Originally posted by molive

IIRC Bruno took part in Massa's race last year.

Hacklerf,the racing is on November 29th and 30th. It should in youtube soon afterwards.

nice, hopefully, eurosport will show it again

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Posted 21 November 2008 - 12:14

Eurosport 2, Sun 30 Nov, 'Live Karting' from 15.00 it says on the Eurosport website. No further info but I assume (read: hope) it means the Massa karting event.

#19 bankoq

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Posted 28 November 2008 - 14:52

There's an info in polish media that Robert Kubica will take part in the event but I'm not sure about credibility of the sources. Is there any way to watch Globo TV line on Internet? Send me private message if there is please.

#20 SeanValen

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Posted 28 November 2008 - 15:43

A toast to the kart race coming up :up:

To Schumacher :up:

A toast to Legendary Molive :up:

And a toast to the Brazilian Spirit :up:

#21 molive

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Posted 28 November 2008 - 22:01

Originally posted by SeanValen
A toast to Legendary Molive

I'll toast to that!

Update:

The whole state of St. Catarina has suffered with heavy rain this past week, mostly on the countryside, where some 80 people have died and many floods have occurred. The Mayor of Florianopolis even thought about posponing the race because of the tragedy, but it has been confirmed.

The event is donating R$50.000,00 to help the relief efforts. Massa is also donating R$50k himself (about $25k) to the cause.

Schummy is in town, he arrived in the circuit in a heli, but has been avoiding the media ever since.
Rubinho also went to the track, but didnt meet MS yet. RB has played down the latest comments he and MS made in the press, saying that the media is just hungry for news (what a surprise).

Massa said he invited Kimi, but the Finn didnt want to come (Kimi, RU scared or just lazy?

)

Massa also said that Jeff Gordon's invitation was a strategy to make the race intersting for NA fans saying that "JG is like a MS there".

As for the race, practice starts saturday morning, with two groups having 2x40min:

Group 1:

Alexandre Barros
Allam Khodair
Antonio Pizzonia
João Paulo de Oliveira
Luciano Burti
Luis Tedesco
Mario Moraes
Max Wilson
Ricardo Maurício
Ricardo Zonta
Roberto Moreno
Tony Kanaan
Vitor Meira

Group 2:

Felipe Giaffone
Felipe Massa
Jeff Gordon
Luca Badoer
Lucas Di Grassi
Marcos Gomes
Michael Schumacher
Popó Bueno
Rubens Barrichello
Tarso Marques
Thiago Camilo
Vitantonio Liuzzi
Xandinho Negrão

Qualifying starts at 3pm with each group having 20 mins.

Sean :up:

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#22 molive

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Posted 28 November 2008 - 22:39

Pictures here:

http://esporte.uol.c...elas_album.jhtm

#23 DLaw

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Posted 28 November 2008 - 23:16

No JPM?

#24 barteks

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Posted 28 November 2008 - 23:48

Originally posted by bankoq
There's an info in polish media that Robert Kubica will take part in the event but I'm not sure about credibility of the sources.

Only few are credible...

#25 molive

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Posted 28 November 2008 - 23:50

Originally posted by DLaw
No JPM?

No Juan and no Kubica, which is a shame. But it will be a very competitive race nevertheless!

Any bets who will win?

MS aside (he will always be a favourite) I think Di Grassi can surprise some people. Kanaan is also strong. And Rubens will be on a mission too.

:clap:

#26 BMW_F1

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Posted 28 November 2008 - 23:55

Maybe Liuzzi.. I saw him race in JPM's Cartagena KART race a while back and he was really good.

#27 bankoq

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Posted 29 November 2008 - 09:23

Without Kubica and Montoya I don't see anyone who can challenge Schumacher.

#28 postajegenye

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Posted 29 November 2008 - 09:47

Will it be possible to follow this somewhere on the net?

#29 Jan.W

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Posted 29 November 2008 - 10:05

Originally posted by bankoq
Without Kubica and Montoya I don't see anyone who can challenge Schumacher.

We are talking about karting, right?
Liuzzi is above Kubica and Montoya by head and shoulders.

#30 bankoq

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Posted 29 November 2008 - 12:34

Why? Kubica with Hamilton were best karters in the World of their era.

And YES, there are some streams for tomorrow races http://www.soccer-li...p?id=motorsport

#31 Ross Stonefeld

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Posted 29 November 2008 - 12:36

You might want to recheck your stats.

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Posted 29 November 2008 - 18:48

any updates? ... any internet link..?

#33 Galko877

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Posted 29 November 2008 - 19:35

Originally posted by bankoq
Why? Kubica with Hamilton were best karters in the World of their era.

Erm, almost every F1 driver was among the best karters in the World of their era. Kubica and Hamilton are definitely great karters, but they have achieved nothing in karting that other F1 drivers haven't achieved too. Did Lewis and Robert win the Kart World Championship, for example? Because Liuzzi did...

#34 patgaw

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Posted 29 November 2008 - 20:51

Originally posted by Galko877

but they have achieved nothing in karting that other F1 drivers haven't achieved too.

Kubica is first foreigner, who win Italian carting championship (best carting league).

#35 BiH

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Posted 29 November 2008 - 20:54

The starting grid:

1) Lucas di Grassi, 42s592
2) Vitantonio Liuzzi, 42s707
3) Rubens Barrichello, 42s809
4) Michael Schumacher, 43s222
5) Thiago Camilo, 43s342
6) Antônio Pizzonia, 45s090
7) Allam Khodair, 45s162
8 Ricardo Zonta, 45s535
9) Max Wilson, 46s290
10) Marcos Gomes, 46s942
11) Luciano Burti, 41s978
12) Felipe Massa, 42s010
13) Felipe Giaffone, 42s276
14) Xandinho Negrão, 42s377
15) João Paulo Oliveira, 42s425
16) Popó Bueno, 42s482
17) Vítor Meira, 42s518
18) Alexandre Barros, 42s552
19) Luca Badoer, 42s555
20) Tony Kanaan, 42s618
21) Tarso Marques, 42s637
22) Ricardo Maurício, 42s748
23) Mário Moraes, 42s775
24) Roberto Pupo Moreno, 43s055
25) Jeff Gordon, 43s148
26) Luís Tedesco, 44s348

#36 BiH

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Posted 29 November 2008 - 20:55

jeff gordon :cool:

#37 TwoCents

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Posted 29 November 2008 - 21:03

That looks awesome. In contrast to his grid position

Go Jeff, show em what you can still do. And it's all about taking part, right (just covering his butt).

I guess he did not start out in karting when he was young?

EDIT: and no sign on my Sky remote of any tv coverage tomorrow here.

#38 molive

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Posted 29 November 2008 - 21:31

The race will be shown here live tomorrow, at 2pm, on cable (SporTV). I already have the recorder programmed! :cool:

Di Grassi got lucky with a drying track, but did a good lap to get pole. :up:

RB ahead of Schummy. Sparks will fly!

Pizzonia looks quick too.

Jeff Gordon looks rusty compared to the other guys, he asked RB for advice about fuel loads but looked lost: "at least the track goes to the left". Anyone wanna bet how many laps behind Schummy will JG finish?

#39 bankoq

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Posted 29 November 2008 - 21:34

Originally posted by patgaw

Kubica is first foreigner, who win Italian carting championship (best carting league).

And in the very same year he won German karting championship. Two toughest karting leagues in the World.

Believe me Kubica is at least as good in karting as Liuzzi.

#40 CWeil

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Posted 29 November 2008 - 21:47

Ask him. All the guys of his age group revered guys like Liuzzi (and Pantano) as the best karters of the time. Most all of the F1 guys won various karting championships, though, so Kubica/Hamilton are not really alone in that.

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Posted 29 November 2008 - 23:41

Originally posted by molive
The race will be shown here live tomorrow, at 2pm, on cable (SporTV). I already have the recorder programmed!

This is race 2. Race 1 will be live in Globo TV at 11:15 AM, local time. This is 1:15PM UTC/GMT.

#42 bankoq

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Posted 30 November 2008 - 00:12

Both races are scheduled here:
http://www.soccer-li...p?id=motorsport

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Posted 30 November 2008 - 00:14

Originally posted by BiH
The starting grid:

1) Lucas di Grassi, 42s592
2) Vitantonio Liuzzi, 42s707
3) Rubens Barrichello, 42s809
4) Michael Schumacher, 43s222
5) Thiago Camilo, 43s342
6) Antônio Pizzonia, 45s090
7) Allam Khodair, 45s162
8 Ricardo Zonta, 45s535
9) Max Wilson, 46s290
10) Marcos Gomes, 46s942
11) Luciano Burti, 41s978
12) Felipe Massa, 42s010
13) Felipe Giaffone, 42s276
14) Xandinho Negrão, 42s377
15) João Paulo Oliveira, 42s425
16) Popó Bueno, 42s482
17) Vítor Meira, 42s518
18) Alexandre Barros, 42s552
19) Luca Badoer, 42s555
20) Tony Kanaan, 42s618
21) Tarso Marques, 42s637
22) Ricardo Maurício, 42s748
23) Mário Moraes, 42s775
24) Roberto Pupo Moreno, 43s055
25) Jeff Gordon, 43s148
26) Luís Tedesco, 44s348

Those times posted don't correspond to the starting positions so how were the posistions selected? What do the times represent?

Cooper

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Posted 30 November 2008 - 00:26

Originally posted by bankoq
Both races are scheduled here:
http://www.soccer-li...p?id=motorsport

Thanks

So, if the race (2) starts at 2pm Brazil time, that would be 7pm UK time right? Just trying to figure out when to tune in online.

#45 molive

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Posted 30 November 2008 - 00:44

Originally posted by DaleCooper

Those times posted don't correspond to the starting positions so how were the posistions selected? What do the times represent?

Cooper

They had a sort of superpole grouping, where only the top 10 went for pole.

Thanks Dutra, I was going to miss the 1st race!

#46 DaleCooper

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Posted 30 November 2008 - 00:58

Originally posted by molive

They had a sort of superpole grouping, where only the top 10 went for pole.

Thanks Dutra, I was going to miss the 1st race!

Thanx. Why are there 2 races? Will they start the second race in reverse finishing order for the 1st race?

Cooper

#47 molive

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Posted 30 November 2008 - 01:16

Originally posted by DaleCooper
Thanx. Why are there 2 races?

Last year was the same. MS won 1 and got 3rd (IIRC) in the other and was champion overall.

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Posted 30 November 2008 - 08:29

Originally posted by TwoCents

Thanks

So, if the race (2) starts at 2pm Brazil time, that would be 7pm UK time right? Just trying to figure out when to tune in online.

First race starts 14:15 CET and second race 17:00 CET, so I believe in UK it's -1 hour.

#49 SchuOz

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Posted 30 November 2008 - 09:00

Will be on justin tv as well

http://www.justin.tv...nnel=sportzone4

#50 TwoCents

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Posted 30 November 2008 - 13:37

It's being shown live on British Eurosport right now :clap:

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