Does anyone know much about this 0.74-mile circuit located near Copenhagen? It seems rather odd that Formula One would race on such a tiny course, even for a non-championship Grand Prix. What was the thinking? I assume that the track's size played a role in the races there being split up into heats.
Denmark's tiny Roskilde Ring circuit
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Posted 11 March 2002 - 21:08
When Roskilde first opened in 1956 it was only 0.404 miles! Advertising painted on the asphalt was an added hazard in the wet on the banked loop. The short heat format was adopted very early and not only F1 but F2 (in 1960) and sports cars ran there. Even at its longest, it would make the post-war Crystal Palace circuit look like a marathon course ...
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Posted 12 March 2002 - 08:08
Bugger - another one I thought I knew about and have completely forgotten to add on to my page. Please can someone do the honours with map, history etc etc. I am taking myself outside for a flogging due to the number of omissions and mistakes I seem to have made lately.
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Posted 12 March 2002 - 08:39
Actually, the 1961 Danish GP was split into three heats, the first being 30 laps long (a mere 23.813 km), the second and the third 30 laps (35.72 km). Winner Stirling Moss completed the three heats together in less than an hour!
Note, that Roskilde is also the birthplace of Jan Magnussen.
Note, that Roskilde is also the birthplace of Jan Magnussen.
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Posted 12 March 2002 - 11:51
Formula Juniors at Roskilde 1963 or 1962. Note the width of the track! And anti-clockwise!
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Posted 12 March 2002 - 12:10
I believe that Doug Revson ( Peters brother ) lost his life there ( along with the director of the course in the 60's ).
Didn't John Nielsen stuff a Renault F1 car there in the mid 80's as well whilst doing a demo ?!?
Didn't John Nielsen stuff a Renault F1 car there in the mid 80's as well whilst doing a demo ?!?
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Posted 12 March 2002 - 12:25
Doug Revson lost his life at Ring Djursland, another little track in Denmark. The director of the course was former FJ and F3 star Jens Christian Legardt.
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Posted 13 March 2002 - 00:02
Thanks for posting that picture Stefan. What an interesting looking track! It appears that they could go 6 wide in the corners there.
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Posted 13 March 2002 - 00:36
Spectator's dream, easy overtaking, and every part of the track probably could be watched.
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Posted 13 March 2002 - 11:22
Roskilde's Copenhagen Grand Prix used to be organised as part of a double-header Nordic fortnight with Sweden's Karlskoga Kannonloppet as the twin event. Unfortunately, Karlskoga was the scene of a very nasty saloon car shunt which claimed the lives of several spectators. Rings bell about historics running at Karlskoga in recent years, but is the course more or less unchanged? Or indeed still open? I haven't been paying attention...
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Posted 13 March 2002 - 11:35
The track was closed for two years after that crash, but then reopened without modification and has been used ever since.
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Posted 13 March 2002 - 12:28
Yes the Karlskoga track went into limbo for a few years after the 1970 Kanonloppet (Cannon-race).
I might be mistaken, but I think that the track was not used for national events for quite some time after 1970 probably into the 1980s. I think it was only used for club meetings and racing-schools.
I suspect that the track had to be brought up to date, to be able to be a part of the high-profile Swedish Super-Touring series.
I might be mistaken, but I think that the track was not used for national events for quite some time after 1970 probably into the 1980s. I think it was only used for club meetings and racing-schools.
I suspect that the track had to be brought up to date, to be able to be a part of the high-profile Swedish Super-Touring series.
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Posted 13 March 2002 - 13:56
Rainer, you touched on something that I need to confirm. I have seen Kanonloppet frequently spelled Kannonloppet by various respected writers. I used the spelling with the double n in my Masten article. Do you know why this gets spelled two different ways? I became convinced some time last year that the correct spelling is Kanonloppet.
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Posted 13 March 2002 - 14:29
Originally posted by Joe Fan
Rainer, you touched on something that I need to confirm. I have seen Kanonloppet frequently spelled Kannonloppet by various respected writers. I used the spelling with the double n in my Masten article. Do you know why this gets spelled two different ways? I became convinced some time last year that the correct spelling is Kanonloppet.
Singel n is the correct swedish spelling. Double n is probably mix-up with the english 'cannon'. (A google search for 'Kannonloppet' returns only non-swedish sites. )
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Posted 13 March 2002 - 15:56
Kanonloppet 1970 was very tragic, 6 spectators was killed. For some reason, the insurance company did not took their responsability. The track was run by a amateur club, Karlskoga Motor Klubb, and the chairman and some club-members had to pay everything after the disaster. Personal bankruptcy and they had to leave their houses and all that. Very tragic.
The track was back in full operation at least 1978, I was there for a European F3 Championship Round 1978.
And there has been a modification to the track since the accident. The two parallell straights at the back of the circuit has been shortened. Darren, I shall send you a map of the new configuration soon!
And Ursus is right, it's Kanonloppet, swedish for The Cannon Race. It is named after the big Bofors cannon factory in Karlskoga.
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The track was back in full operation at least 1978, I was there for a European F3 Championship Round 1978.
And there has been a modification to the track since the accident. The two parallell straights at the back of the circuit has been shortened. Darren, I shall send you a map of the new configuration soon!
And Ursus is right, it's Kanonloppet, swedish for The Cannon Race. It is named after the big Bofors cannon factory in Karlskoga.
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Posted 13 March 2002 - 18:02
Incidently "Kanonloppet" can also mean aprox. "the gun barrel" (or more precise, the inside of the barrel). Just in case anyone wanted to know.
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Posted 14 March 2002 - 08:31
How long was the shortened track in 1978?
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Posted 14 March 2002 - 14:33
Some info on the Roskilde Ring can be found here:
http://www.hms.dk/ro...skilde_ring.htm
The last link on the page points to an interesting photo gallery.
http://www.hms.dk/ro...skilde_ring.htm
The last link on the page points to an interesting photo gallery.
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Posted 14 March 2002 - 15:04
Great Link Leo!
Check out the photo page and you will see some incredible things:
top row, far left picture: Joey Chitwood visits Denmark.
top tow, middle left pic: proof positive of the birth of lawn mower racing.
top row, far right picture: inspiration for Herbie the Love Bug.
bottom row, middle picture: proof that a cop is always no where in sight when you need one.
Check out the photo page and you will see some incredible things:
top row, far left picture: Joey Chitwood visits Denmark.
top tow, middle left pic: proof positive of the birth of lawn mower racing.
top row, far right picture: inspiration for Herbie the Love Bug.
bottom row, middle picture: proof that a cop is always no where in sight when you need one.
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Posted 14 March 2002 - 15:24
More seriously Joe, there are some pictures of the 1962 Danish GP there! Might be some of Masten ... still checking!!
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Posted 14 March 2002 - 15:40
http://www.cray.dk/i...11943,640,480,1
Bingo! That's Masten in #12, followed by Ireland (10), Surtees (6), Brabham (?), AN Other, Salvadori (8), Burgess (18) and Seidel (24)
AN Other could be Gary Hocking, but that's a guess.
Bingo! That's Masten in #12, followed by Ireland (10), Surtees (6), Brabham (?), AN Other, Salvadori (8), Burgess (18) and Seidel (24)
AN Other could be Gary Hocking, but that's a guess.
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Posted 14 March 2002 - 18:17
These are superb pictures. What a wonderful, idiosyncratic racetrack! Surely one whose story is BEGGING to be written? Pretty please?
Wasn't there some controversy at the British GP circa 1974 because of a rule banning adverts painted on the track? There were some signs painted on the run off areas and there was a dispute about whether they counted as part of the track. Typical British compromise, they tarmaced over the adverts, but you could still see the writing if you looked hard enough, which seemed to satisfy the CSI and the advertisers!!! This may be from Mr Nye's book (which I haven't got
)!!! Presumably, if I'm not dreaming all this, this post-dated the Roskilde advertising?
Wasn't there some controversy at the British GP circa 1974 because of a rule banning adverts painted on the track? There were some signs painted on the run off areas and there was a dispute about whether they counted as part of the track. Typical British compromise, they tarmaced over the adverts, but you could still see the writing if you looked hard enough, which seemed to satisfy the CSI and the advertisers!!! This may be from Mr Nye's book (which I haven't got
)!!! Presumably, if I'm not dreaming all this, this post-dated the Roskilde advertising?
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Posted 14 March 2002 - 21:53
Never mention painted matter on track surfaces to Nigel Mansell....
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Posted 14 March 2002 - 22:49
Originally posted by Vitesse2
http://www.cray.dk/io?10011943,640,480,1
Bingo! That's Masten in #12, followed by Ireland (10), Surtees (6), Brabham (?), AN Other, Salvadori (8), Burgess (18) and Seidel (24)
AN Other could be Gary Hocking, but that's a guess.
THe car at the back looks like Trevor Taylor in a Lotus 25. THe white car with the dark stripe does look more like a Cooper than a Lotus, but could be Burgess with number 16. In vitesse's second picture, surely that is Ireland's Lotus with Brabham and Surtees.
There is some controversy within the ranks of the formula 1 register here.
John Thompson (The formula 1 record book and Paul Sheldon disagree in several respects on the entry.
Number 4 Sheldon: Hill Walker (Lotus 24) (dna); Thompson: Taylor (Lotus 25)
Number 16 Sheldon Burgess (Cooper 59); Thompson: noone with that number
Number 18 : Sheldon: Seidel (Lotus 24); thompson: Burgess (Cooper)
Number 24: Sheldon: Taylor (Lotus 25); Thompson Seidel (Lotus 24)
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Posted 14 March 2002 - 23:15
Okay Roger, I'll concede Ireland instead of Chamberlain and I wondered about Taylor, but it doesn't look like it's in Team Lotus colours (OTOH why would Seidel be driving a dark-coloured car?) but the one I said is Burgess .. I spent enough time on researching the Aiden-Cooper for 8W to know exactly what it looks like!
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Posted 14 March 2002 - 23:23
Sorry, I was agreeing with you about Burgess, but I thought the number was different, that's all.
The car at the back looks exactly like Team Lotus 1962 colours to me; no yellow stripe until 1963 remember.
The car at the back looks exactly like Team Lotus 1962 colours to me; no yellow stripe until 1963 remember.
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Posted 14 March 2002 - 23:54
Originally posted by Vitesse2
http://www.cray.dk/io?10011943,640,480,1
Bingo! That's Masten in #12, followed by Ireland (10), Surtees (6), Brabham (?), AN Other, Salvadori (8), Burgess (18) and Seidel (24)
AN Other could be Gary Hocking, but that's a guess.
You're right. That is Masten. Even though I don't have a race number for his car for this event, I do know that he drove a UDT-Laystall Lotus 18/21 #8 in the 1961 Danish GP so this has to be him in the 1962 event.
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Posted 15 March 2002 - 00:03
That's the UDT-Laystall Lotus 24-BRM, BTW.
He came second in heat 1, fourth in heat 2 and second in heat 3 to finish second on aggregate.
He came second in heat 1, fourth in heat 2 and second in heat 3 to finish second on aggregate.
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Posted 15 March 2002 - 00:28
Originally posted by Doug Nye
Never mention painted matter on track surfaces to Nigel Mansell....
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I can probably guess why, because it affects the adhesion of the race surface. People speculated that the reason Scott Sharp and a few other IRL drivers spun out early in last year's Indy 500, was due to the fact that they got down on the painted white line in the corners before their tires were sufficiently scrubbed in. Al Unser Jr dismissed this but I think it has tremendous merit. Why? Masten's advice to a driver who was going to make their first start at Le Mans was that the track was a simple track really and advised him to stay off the painted lines, especially in the wet. I've noticed in quite a few pictures of Masten that he is always looking down at these lines as he is going through the corners.
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Posted 15 March 2002 - 06:54
Yes, Doug is referring specifically to Monaco 84, where Nige blamed his race-costing spin on putting a wheel on a white line & losing adhesion.
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Originally posted by ensign14
Yes, Doug is referring specifically to Monaco 84, where Nige blamed his race-costing spin on putting a wheel on a white line & losing adhesion.
Absolutely right - thereby conveniently ignoring the fact that all other runners that day appeared to cope with such hazards with complete impunity. Mind you, most of them were not going half as quickly as he had been. And there perhaps was the problem - he had no need to be pressing so hard at that point in the race. Like so many chargers before and since - it hadn't occurred to him that the throttle offers two-way operation...
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Posted 15 March 2002 - 22:39
A.N.Other is (was) indeed Gary Hocking.
Here's another pic from the same race.
Here's another pic from the same race.
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Posted 16 March 2002 - 06:54
If ever there was a circuit begging to be done for GPL, it's Roskildering 
Seriously. It should be great fun to run F3 and smaller on.
C'mon you GPL'ers here, get to work on it.
Jim Thurman
Seriously. It should be great fun to run F3 and smaller on.
C'mon you GPL'ers here, get to work on it.
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Posted 12 October 2002 - 09:14
I was looking the net and found this on a swedish site about Roskilde Ring
Lite historiska data om Roskilde Ring:
Banrekordet var från 1962 då Jack Brabham kört på 42,7 sek. med en Lotus Formel 1
Klassrekordet med Formel 3 hade Chris Irwin i en Brabham på 42,9 sekunder,
Sportvagnar och prototyper hade Mike Knight i en Lotus 23b kört på 43,6 sek, och med
standardvagnar hade John Fitzpatrik banrekordet 49,6 sek. i en häftig Ford Anglia.
It is the laprecords for Roskilde Ring
Formel 1 : Jack brabham Lotus 42,7 sek
Formel 3 : Chris Irwin Brabham 42.9 sek
Sportscars : Mike Knight Lotus 23b 43,6 sek
saloons : John Fitspatrick in a very modified Ford Anglia 49,6 sek
there is also a map of the circut on the site.
http://www.stahlmotor.se/formel3a.htm
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Lite historiska data om Roskilde Ring:
Banrekordet var från 1962 då Jack Brabham kört på 42,7 sek. med en Lotus Formel 1
Klassrekordet med Formel 3 hade Chris Irwin i en Brabham på 42,9 sekunder,
Sportvagnar och prototyper hade Mike Knight i en Lotus 23b kört på 43,6 sek, och med
standardvagnar hade John Fitzpatrik banrekordet 49,6 sek. i en häftig Ford Anglia.
It is the laprecords for Roskilde Ring
Formel 1 : Jack brabham Lotus 42,7 sek
Formel 3 : Chris Irwin Brabham 42.9 sek
Sportscars : Mike Knight Lotus 23b 43,6 sek
saloons : John Fitspatrick in a very modified Ford Anglia 49,6 sek
there is also a map of the circut on the site.
http://www.stahlmotor.se/formel3a.htm
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Posted 12 October 2002 - 09:36
Originally posted by Leo
Some info on the Roskilde Ring can be found here:
http://www.hms.dk/ro...skilde_ring.htm
The last link on the page points to an interesting photo gallery.
I dont think I have ever seen a group of photo's more suited to a 'caption' contest than the ones on that page !!
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Posted 12 October 2002 - 15:14
Here’s an update on the lap records. The track was in business until 1968, and in the remaining years from ’62 the outright record was lowered three times.
On August 20th 1967 Kurt Ahrens in a F3 Brabham BT21-Ford lovered broke the then five year old record to 42.5 seconds, averaging 118.588 km/h ~ 73.687 mph.
The following year on August 18th 1968 Jean Johansson in a similar car bettered that by 1/10 to set a new outright record at 42.4, averaging 118.868 km/h ~ 73.861 mph. This record was only to stand for one race, because …
On September 14th 1968, at the very last race weekend, Reine Wisell in his F3 Tecno-Ford did a clean 42.0, averaging a clean 120.000 km/h ~ or a not so clean 74.565 mph.
Sadly, nobody at the time knew that that time would stand for eternity. The circuit had raced on a yearly dispensation granted by the local counsel since 1964 and everybody involved with the track hoped for another renewal. The track even appeared with four dates on the 1969 calendar but that was not to be.
As for the saloon cars, they were not standing still either. Arne Ditlevsen in a Mini-Cooper was the first saloon car driver to average over 100 km/h with a 50.4 second lap ..in 1964! Somewhat contradicting a 49.6 set in 1962. The final saloon car lap record holder was to be Kaj Bornebusch, driving a Porsche 911 round in 46.3 seconds, averaging 108.855 km/h ~ 67.639 mph.
I also have an update on the actual track length. The short track measured 670 meters ~ 416.319 mile, and the big one 1400 meters ~ 0.870 mile. A little longer than previously mentioned here but certainly VERY short by any international stan- ....by any standard.
All of the above information has been provided by a very nice 50 page booklet published in connection with a special exhibition featuring Roskilde Ring at Roskilde Museum. As far as I know this exhibition will end at the end of October 2002.
Jesper OH
On August 20th 1967 Kurt Ahrens in a F3 Brabham BT21-Ford lovered broke the then five year old record to 42.5 seconds, averaging 118.588 km/h ~ 73.687 mph.
The following year on August 18th 1968 Jean Johansson in a similar car bettered that by 1/10 to set a new outright record at 42.4, averaging 118.868 km/h ~ 73.861 mph. This record was only to stand for one race, because …
On September 14th 1968, at the very last race weekend, Reine Wisell in his F3 Tecno-Ford did a clean 42.0, averaging a clean 120.000 km/h ~ or a not so clean 74.565 mph.
Sadly, nobody at the time knew that that time would stand for eternity. The circuit had raced on a yearly dispensation granted by the local counsel since 1964 and everybody involved with the track hoped for another renewal. The track even appeared with four dates on the 1969 calendar but that was not to be.
As for the saloon cars, they were not standing still either. Arne Ditlevsen in a Mini-Cooper was the first saloon car driver to average over 100 km/h with a 50.4 second lap ..in 1964! Somewhat contradicting a 49.6 set in 1962. The final saloon car lap record holder was to be Kaj Bornebusch, driving a Porsche 911 round in 46.3 seconds, averaging 108.855 km/h ~ 67.639 mph.
I also have an update on the actual track length. The short track measured 670 meters ~ 416.319 mile, and the big one 1400 meters ~ 0.870 mile. A little longer than previously mentioned here but certainly VERY short by any international stan- ....by any standard.
All of the above information has been provided by a very nice 50 page booklet published in connection with a special exhibition featuring Roskilde Ring at Roskilde Museum. As far as I know this exhibition will end at the end of October 2002.
Jesper OH
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A bit off topic:
Denmark gets a new race track - Padborg Park will be opened with a race of the Danish Touringcar Championship on 22nd June. It is located between Padborg and Tinglev very near the Danish-German border (about 10 km from the German city Flensburg). Length of the track is 2100 meters (about 1.3 miles). The name "Padborg Park" is the idea of Jan Magnussen whose dream is to start his first DTC race as Le Mans winner (the 24 hour race is at the weekend before the opening of the third Danish race track besides Jyllands-Ringen and Ring Djursland). A drawing of the track can be found here:
http://www.motorspor...org-park_01.jpg
(One corner is called "Big Mag" which is the nickname of Jan Magnussen.)
Denmark gets a new race track - Padborg Park will be opened with a race of the Danish Touringcar Championship on 22nd June. It is located between Padborg and Tinglev very near the Danish-German border (about 10 km from the German city Flensburg). Length of the track is 2100 meters (about 1.3 miles). The name "Padborg Park" is the idea of Jan Magnussen whose dream is to start his first DTC race as Le Mans winner (the 24 hour race is at the weekend before the opening of the third Danish race track besides Jyllands-Ringen and Ring Djursland). A drawing of the track can be found here:
http://www.motorspor...org-park_01.jpg
(One corner is called "Big Mag" which is the nickname of Jan Magnussen.)
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Posted 29 January 2003 - 12:40
Looks eerily like Zolder !!
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Posted 04 February 2003 - 20:39
Originally posted by LittleChris
Looks eerily like Zolder !!
Ouch!
Now, Tom Walkinshaw seems to be quoted for a connection betwin a bull-dozer and Zolder - what can that be about?
Padborg Park http://www.padborgpark.dk/ will be the first race track to be opened in Denmark since 1966! Ring Djursland in 1965, and Jyllands Ringen in 1966 is the only other tarmac tracks completed since the inception of Roskilde Ring in 1955. Countless projects since the closure of Roskilde Ring has come and gone, and this latest project has been rumered about for about a year now. In that climate there has been some doubt as to the credibility of the Padborg Ring. Just another of those "sky-tracks"?
But it has appeared at the right time. TV2 Zulu (a branch of one of the major TV companies in Denmark) transmits close to 5 hours live Sunday afternoon from all the major rounds with a minimum of commercial breaks. The interest in Motorsport in Denmark is probably at an all time high since the hey-days of Roskilde Ring - the difference being that this time round Denmark has international stars in International events to chear about as well.
On a final note I will suggest that the races at Padborg could likely turn into something like Zolder weather wise.
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Posted 03 June 2004 - 12:24
As far as I know there were two fatalities at Roskilde.
George Lawton 10 September 1960 F2 Danske Grand Prix
Palle Ancher 13 June 1965 Copenhagen Cup Touring cars
Does anyone know what happened ?
Has someone the touring car results of the Copenhagen Cup races. Were they international meetings ?
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George Lawton 10 September 1960 F2 Danske Grand Prix
Palle Ancher 13 June 1965 Copenhagen Cup Touring cars
Does anyone know what happened ?
Has someone the touring car results of the Copenhagen Cup races. Were they international meetings ?
so long
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Posted 03 June 2004 - 13:38
I have aftermath footage of Palle Ancher's crash, on video. Here's a screenshot:
*** Warning: The following photos depict a fatal crash ***
http://www.crasheram...alle-Ancher.jpg
*** Warning: The following photos depict a fatal crash ***
This is about George Lawton's crash (post taken from my forum, http://www.crasherama.dk/), thanks to Jesper Hvid for writing it. Sorry for the quality of the pictures, the people in the library didn't let Jesper scan the original copies - only have them xeroxed
Therefore, the quality is AWFUL. (Images hosted on GeoCities, don't ask why, because I don't know! : Well, if they appear to be offline, they're not. Check back later sometime)
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In September of 1960, the Roskildering in Denmark (image available here: ftp://carftp.com/f1billeder/roskilderingluftfoto.jpg ) hosted the Danish Grand Prix, a weekend of racing with the participation of many of the great drivers of the time, including Stirling Moss, Jack Brabham and Graham Hill.
http://www.geocities...rsen/racead.txt
More than 50.000 people attended this event, which was marred by tragedy, as a 21-year-old unknown driver from New Zealand by the name of George Lawton lost his life crashing early on in the F2 race, which was arranged as a 4-heater.
On Friday, during practice, a similar incident had taken place, as Lawton, inexperienced with the Roskildering's many tight hairpin bends, went too fast through the TOMS-corner, hitting the grassy bank surrounding the track, flipping through the air, and landing safely on all 4 wheels. The driver was afterwards quoted for good-spiritedly saying that: "In motorsport, you need a little luck in order not to get into trouble!".
(Note: All photos and information are from various Danish newspapers, local ones and tabloids. The quality of the pictures is poor, but I had no access myself to the original newspapers, I just viewed the microfilms, and ordered the relevant clippings photocopied from the Danish State Library, which was the best I could do. I wasn't allowed to make scans directly from the newspapers, and I apologize for the lack of clearness in the pictures.)
(Below: White arrow indicates Lawton)
http://www.geocities...ctcrash3ptr.txt
http://www.geocities...ctcrash2ptr.txt
The #5 Cooper driven by young Lawton was relatively unscathed, and he was able to race the next day.
http://www.geocities...recrash3ptr.txt
(Above: Denny Hulme is driving the #10 Cooper, behind Lawton. This was taken just before the fatal crash.)
However, in the early stages of the first heat tragedy struck, as Lawton entered the Everton-turn, doing 140 km/h. The Cooper once more left the road, hit the grass verge and turned two somersaults, ejecting it's driver, who was crushed by the tumbling vehicle.
*** Warning: The following photos depict a fatal crash ***
http://www.geocities...awtondouble.txt
http://www.geocities...oncrash1ptr.txt
http://www.geocities...awtoncrash5.txt
*** Warning: The above photos depict a fatal crash ***
(The above first two: The car seen behind Lawton is Stirling Moss', and the object lying to the right of the car in the first picture (right one) must be Lawton's body.)
Lawton was immediately taken to hospital, but died of the severe head- and chest-injuries he'd sustained in the horrible crash.
Denny Hulme, personal friend and teammate of Lawton's, was devastated by this accident, and at first refused to race on, but later found the courage to do so, understandably finishing last. The shortened Danish Grand Prix was won by a lap-record breaking Jack Brabham, but the winner's ceremony was conducted in silence, out of respect for the deceased driver. (Results here: http://user.tninet.s...91w/F260_20.htm )
It wasn't the first time death had been an unwelcome visitor to the Roskildering, as a press photographer by the name of Claus Langer a month earlier had fatally crashed during practice, driving a Morris 850.
Roskildering does not exist anymore, as it was closed in 1969 by the authorities, because the noise from the track had become an intolerable nuisance to the patients at the nearby hospital.
There is so much more stuff about Roskildering to be found here, this site belongs to another Danish forum member, perbeer. I borrowed the picture of the Roskildering from his site:
www.perbeer.ninja.dk
I hope you found this interesting, and once again, sorry for the abysmal picture quality. I'll keep searching for proper ones. PTRACER helped again with enhancing, but it seemed such a hopeless task to begin with...so, no thanks whatsoever to the Danish State Library in Aarhus!
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*** Warning: The following photos depict a fatal crash ***
http://www.crasheram...alle-Ancher.jpg
*** Warning: The following photos depict a fatal crash ***
This is about George Lawton's crash (post taken from my forum, http://www.crasherama.dk/), thanks to Jesper Hvid for writing it. Sorry for the quality of the pictures, the people in the library didn't let Jesper scan the original copies - only have them xeroxed
Therefore, the quality is AWFUL. (Images hosted on GeoCities, don't ask why, because I don't know! : Well, if they appear to be offline, they're not. Check back later sometime)--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
In September of 1960, the Roskildering in Denmark (image available here: ftp://carftp.com/f1billeder/roskilderingluftfoto.jpg ) hosted the Danish Grand Prix, a weekend of racing with the participation of many of the great drivers of the time, including Stirling Moss, Jack Brabham and Graham Hill.
http://www.geocities...rsen/racead.txt
More than 50.000 people attended this event, which was marred by tragedy, as a 21-year-old unknown driver from New Zealand by the name of George Lawton lost his life crashing early on in the F2 race, which was arranged as a 4-heater.
On Friday, during practice, a similar incident had taken place, as Lawton, inexperienced with the Roskildering's many tight hairpin bends, went too fast through the TOMS-corner, hitting the grassy bank surrounding the track, flipping through the air, and landing safely on all 4 wheels. The driver was afterwards quoted for good-spiritedly saying that: "In motorsport, you need a little luck in order not to get into trouble!".
(Note: All photos and information are from various Danish newspapers, local ones and tabloids. The quality of the pictures is poor, but I had no access myself to the original newspapers, I just viewed the microfilms, and ordered the relevant clippings photocopied from the Danish State Library, which was the best I could do. I wasn't allowed to make scans directly from the newspapers, and I apologize for the lack of clearness in the pictures.)
(Below: White arrow indicates Lawton)
http://www.geocities...ctcrash3ptr.txt
http://www.geocities...ctcrash2ptr.txt
The #5 Cooper driven by young Lawton was relatively unscathed, and he was able to race the next day.
http://www.geocities...recrash3ptr.txt
(Above: Denny Hulme is driving the #10 Cooper, behind Lawton. This was taken just before the fatal crash.)
However, in the early stages of the first heat tragedy struck, as Lawton entered the Everton-turn, doing 140 km/h. The Cooper once more left the road, hit the grass verge and turned two somersaults, ejecting it's driver, who was crushed by the tumbling vehicle.
*** Warning: The following photos depict a fatal crash ***
http://www.geocities...awtondouble.txt
http://www.geocities...oncrash1ptr.txt
http://www.geocities...awtoncrash5.txt
*** Warning: The above photos depict a fatal crash ***
(The above first two: The car seen behind Lawton is Stirling Moss', and the object lying to the right of the car in the first picture (right one) must be Lawton's body.)
Lawton was immediately taken to hospital, but died of the severe head- and chest-injuries he'd sustained in the horrible crash.
Denny Hulme, personal friend and teammate of Lawton's, was devastated by this accident, and at first refused to race on, but later found the courage to do so, understandably finishing last. The shortened Danish Grand Prix was won by a lap-record breaking Jack Brabham, but the winner's ceremony was conducted in silence, out of respect for the deceased driver. (Results here: http://user.tninet.s...91w/F260_20.htm )
It wasn't the first time death had been an unwelcome visitor to the Roskildering, as a press photographer by the name of Claus Langer a month earlier had fatally crashed during practice, driving a Morris 850.
Roskildering does not exist anymore, as it was closed in 1969 by the authorities, because the noise from the track had become an intolerable nuisance to the patients at the nearby hospital.
There is so much more stuff about Roskildering to be found here, this site belongs to another Danish forum member, perbeer. I borrowed the picture of the Roskildering from his site:
www.perbeer.ninja.dk
I hope you found this interesting, and once again, sorry for the abysmal picture quality. I'll keep searching for proper ones. PTRACER helped again with enhancing, but it seemed such a hopeless task to begin with...so, no thanks whatsoever to the Danish State Library in Aarhus!
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#44
Rob Semmeling
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Posted 03 June 2004 - 13:51
Originally posted by ensign14
Wasn't there some controversy at the British GP circa 1974 because of a rule banning adverts painted on the track?
I remember there was an advertisement painted on the track surface at Spa a couple of years ago. Can't remember what was being advertised, but the brand name was painted in huge letters at the Kemmel straight. After the F1 drivers had complained about the letters getting slippery, the advertisement was removed before the race. Peculiar that the FIA allowed the paintings in the first place, it's obvious that paint is gonna get slippery, especially at Spa where rain is, well, common, as we all know.
Originally posted by LittleChris
Looks eerily like Zolder !!
Looks eerily boring, if you ask me.
BTW, there's another new track being build, in Sweden, this one, which looks a lot more interesting, http://www.gotlandring.com
With 6,5 kms. in lenght, it is also unusually long. The track looks very twisting though.
#45
Hugo Boecker
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Posted 03 June 2004 - 14:42
Originally posted by Paul Taylor
I have aftermath footage of Palle Ancher's crash, on video. Here's a screenshot:
This is about George Lawton's crash
thanks a lot but the pics don't make one happy
so long
#46
Paul Taylor
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Posted 03 June 2004 - 14:48
I'm afraid it's all I can offer - you asked what happened, but all I can do is show you what happened.
The Lawton crash is described, however, in my post.
The Lawton crash is described, however, in my post.
#47
philippe7
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Posted 03 June 2004 - 15:12
Originally posted by Jesper O. Hansen
Now, Tom Walkinshaw seems to be quoted for a connection betwin a bull-dozer and Zolder - what can that be about?
It does ring a bell.....something like " there's nothing wrong with Zolder that a bulldozer couldn't fix " ....but I don't know if he was referring to some trackside hazards , or if he simply meant that the whole circuit should effectively be torn up....
Former motorcycle-ace-turned-saloon-car-driver , the late Gregg Hansford, did one day actually use a bulldozer himself to remove an offending earth bank at some Australian circuit ( Amaroo Park ? ) .
#48
JohnS
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Posted 03 June 2004 - 20:38
Didn't even know that Roskilde was a circuit! I only knew the name because I think there is a rock festival there every summer. Wasn't there an accident there a few years ago where some fans were killed?
#49
Jon Petersen
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Posted 11 June 2004 - 17:36
As it has not been mentioned in this thread, I want to direct all GPL´ers attention to the very beautifully made version of Roskilde Ring for GPL by Anton Sørensen available at :
http://home6.inet.te...norup/roskilde/
A fantastic track, possibly even better with the new `65 cars. Nothing bigger ever ran there.
Jon
http://home6.inet.te...norup/roskilde/
A fantastic track, possibly even better with the new `65 cars. Nothing bigger ever ran there.
Jon
#50
Barry Boor
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Posted 08 May 2006 - 14:38
Not only is Roskilde available for G.P. Legends players, but slot cars can run there too....
Usual apologies for tone-lowering.
Usual apologies for tone-lowering.
