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The John Wyer Automotive... railroad train!

Started by Big Jim , Oct 03 2002 15:33

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#1 Big Jim

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Posted 03 October 2002 - 15:33

As a bit of a diversion, I present to you the John Wyer Automotive Train. Forgive the off topic post but, I thought some of you might enjoy this.

While visiting my local hobby shop, I came across an orange flat car that looked perfect to haul my 1/43 scale Gulf/Wyer race cars on.
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That turned out so well that I decided I needed an engine and caboose to go along with them. the following is what I came up with.
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#2 Viss1

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Posted 03 October 2002 - 17:18

Transported straight from the factory to LeMans!

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#3 Stefan Ornerdal

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Posted 03 October 2002 - 18:05

Beautiful pics!

I am working on something like this myself, in 1:87 scale. E-types, Ferrari GTO:s, Porsche 356s, Cobras etc. Great fun!

Stefan

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#4 Gary C

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Posted 03 October 2002 - 22:21

Ha! Those are brilliant!!

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#5 bobbo

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Posted 04 October 2002 - 00:38

Big Jim:

Great set of Rolling Stock!! What scale?? O? What brand of equipment?

Bobbo

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#6 Big Jim

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Posted 05 October 2002 - 11:14

bobbo,
The engine is a Williams Fairbanks Morse Trainmaster, the caboose is by Weaver, the flat cars are Lionel, three GT40's are Bang, one Eagles Race, two 917K's are Brumm and two Mirages are Solido.

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#7 Pedro 917

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Posted 18 October 2005 - 16:36

As GT40 chassis # 1075 won in 1968 and 1969, there must be a replica on your wagon...

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#8 2F-001

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Posted 18 October 2005 - 16:43

Absolutely barking mad. And I love it!

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#9 Antoine Pilette

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Posted 18 October 2005 - 16:53

Is it the same scale than the LGB (or Playmobil) trains then?

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#10 cjpani

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Posted 18 October 2005 - 17:56

brilliant!! :clap:

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#11 WDH74

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Posted 18 October 2005 - 19:54

I'll have to build one of those up for my Dad. He has a small railroad layout we run under the Christmas tree every year. He'd love a Gulf themed train!

-William

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#12 bigears

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Posted 18 October 2005 - 21:00

Fantastic! :clap:

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#13 D-Type

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Posted 18 October 2005 - 21:10

Originally posted by Antoine Pilette
Is it the same scale than the LGB (or Playmobil) trains then?

I don't think so.

The cars are 1:43 the same as '0' gauge one of the standard model railway scales

I think Playmobile is larger something like 2in or 50mm gauge.

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#14 HistoricMustang

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Posted 18 October 2005 - 22:00

Pretty cool! :smoking:

Henry

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#15 ggnagy

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Posted 19 October 2005 - 11:32

How about a Gulf tank car to go with it.

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#16 Antoine Pilette

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Posted 19 October 2005 - 13:12

Originally posted by D-Type

I don't think so.

The cars are 1:43 the same as '0' gauge one of the standard model railway scales

I think Playmobile is larger something like 2in or 50mm gauge.

I had some doubts when looking at the table in the picture and then at my Brumms cars.
So it's not same scale than LGB trains I had 20 years ago and neitheir to smaller size Marklin train I have on my bookshelf.
I'm going to have a look online as I don't remember the scaling system with those trains!

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#17 D-Type

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Posted 19 October 2005 - 22:40

Originally posted by Antoine Pilette

I had some doubts when looking at the table in the picture and then at my Brumms cars.
So it's not same scale than LGB trains I had 20 years ago and neitheir to smaller size Marklin train I have on my bookshelf.
I'm going to have a look online as I don't remember the scaling system with those trains!

Try This site for a brief summary.

Incidentally, the connection between car and train scales goes back to the original Dinky Toys which were produced by Hornby as lineside equipment for their gauge '0' trains and so were in 1:43 scale. diecast model makers like Solido, Minichamps, Brumm, Ixo and also the white medal modellers beginning with John Day followed suit.

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#18 Antoine Pilette

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Posted 20 October 2005 - 00:06

Ok... so I had a Z and a HO Marklin train set and LGB train set was O (European) 1/45e...
Two or three of my Playmobil wagons were doing alright with the LGB set, althought I remember pretty well the attachment/coupling system was different.

Since I last saw the LGB train set 20 years ago... I understand why I thought it was bigger, in my memory!
Thanks:D

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#19 dretceterini

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Posted 20 October 2005 - 00:38

American O gauge is actually 1/48th scale

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#20 ggnagy

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Posted 20 October 2005 - 12:17

Originally posted by dretceterini
American O gauge is actually 1/48th scale

rivet couter to anorak correction. :wave:

0 'scale' is 1:48. O 'guage' track modelling US standard Guage is actually 1:45 or Q scale.

The scale of the toy trains using O guage, iirc can run anywhere from about 1:43 to 1:55 for some of the smaller items running on Lionel 0-27 track.

note: Train scales were originally roman numeral designations at the turn of the century. Then people started using a scale smaller than (I), and named it 0. That was changed to the letter 'O'. Of course they never accounted for even smaller proportions, and could not even agree how to designate them (OO vs HO).

The confusion is not nearly as bad, though, as the number of differing scales using the G-guage (LGB) track.

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#21 Big Jim

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Posted 20 October 2005 - 23:58

How about a Gulf tank car to go with it.

I have one on order, but I'm not sure it will be made. I might just have to do it myself.

What I would really like to do is make a picture of J.W., J.I. & J.O. into a decal and put each one on the side of a boxcar.

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#22 dretceterini

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Posted 21 October 2005 - 03:27

Originally posted by ggnagy

rivet couter to anorak correction.

0 'scale' is 1:48. O 'guage' track modelling US standard Guage is actually 1:45 or Q scale.

The scale of the toy trains using O guage, iirc can run anywhere from about 1:43 to 1:55 for some of the smaller items running on Lionel 0-27 track.

note: Train scales were originally roman numeral designations at the turn of the century. Then people started using a scale smaller than (I), and named it 0. That was changed to the letter 'O'. Of course they never accounted for even smaller proportions, and could not even agree how to designate them (OO vs HO).

The confusion is not nearly as bad, though, as the number of differing scales using the G-guage (LGB) track.

I think I'm pretty much both a rivet counter and anorak