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#1 ReWind

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Posted 30 November 2004 - 20:50

The Formula 3000 gang at Pau in 1985 (photo taken from „Grand Prix international“, no credit given) :
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Can anyone identify all 23 chaps? (I’m pretty sure in the case of 12 of them.)

For this purpose I have numbered them (although I simply do not know why especially # 10, 11, 15, 19, 20 & 21 are barely visible :evil: ).

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@ Twinny: Would you please hold back in order to give other people a chance. :cool:
I’m convinced you would supply the names in no time. :up:

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#2 Twin Window

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Posted 30 November 2004 - 21:05

Er, ok Reinhard!

Am I allowed to say that Thack is still wearing the same pair of overalls he used in 1982?

#3 AAA-Eagle

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Posted 30 November 2004 - 21:16

#3 is Lamberto Leoni

#4 starlet

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Posted 30 November 2004 - 21:20

Some of the gang :

2 - Philippe Streiff
3 - Lamberto Leoni
5 - Christian Danner
9 - Michel Ferté
14 - Emanuele Pirro
16 - Juan Manuel Fangio II
18 - Jean Philippe Grand
19 - Alain Ferté
20 - Gabriele Tarquini
21 - Olivier Grouillard
22 - Ivan Capelli

#5 Dracula

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Posted 30 November 2004 - 21:42

I'm not sure but:

2 - Philippe Streiff;
3 - Lamberto Leoni;
5 - Christian Danner;
8 - Guido Dacco;
13 Mike Thackwell;
15 - Emmanuelle Pirro;
16 - Juan Manuel Fangio Jr.;
19 - Alain Ferte;
20 - Michel Ferte;
21 - Olivier Grouillard;
22 - Ivan Capelli.

#6 ReWind

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Posted 30 November 2004 - 21:44

Originally posted by Twin Window
Er, ok Reinhard!

Am I allowed to say that Thack is still wearing the same pair of overalls he used in 1982?

You are allowed to say anything you want. You are the host after all.

Originally posted by starlet
Some of the gang :

9 - Michel Ferté
14 - Emanuele Pirro

# 9 refers to the elder one behind M.Ferté (who is # 10). # 14 refers to the guy behind Pirro (who is # 15). As I said # 10 & 15 are barely visible. I will have to work on my Photoshop skills.

#7 fausto

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Posted 30 November 2004 - 22:37

2-streiff
3-leoni
5-danner
6-corbari (ITI team manager)
8-daccò
13-thackwell
15-pirro
19-alain ferte
20-tarquini
23-nielsen

#8 gdecarli

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Posted 30 November 2004 - 23:13

Pau Grand Prix was raced on May 27th 1985.
There were only 15 drivers; this is result:
  • Christian Danner (March 85B) 72 laps, 1'30'28"63 - 131,781 km/h
  • Emanuele Pirro (March 85B) 1'31'10"36
  • Lamberto Leoni (Williams FW08) 1'31'28"25
  • Olivier Grouillard (March 85B) 1'31'32"13
  • Philippe Streiff (AGS Jh20) 71 laps
Retired:
  • Mike Thackwell (Ralt Re20)
  • Alain Ferté (March 85B)
  • Michel Ferté (March 85B)
  • John Nielsen (Ralt Re20)
  • Mario Hytten (March 85B)
  • Juan Manuel Fangio (Lola T950)
Did not start:
  • Jean Philippe Grand (March 85B)
  • Ivan Capelli (March 85B)
  • Gabriele Tarquini (March 85B)
  • Guido Daccò (March 85B)
So I think all drivers in this list should be in the pic, but now I have no time to check.

Ciao,
Guido

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Posted 01 December 2004 - 02:21

14 is probably either de Chaunac (ORECA) or Mike Earle (Onyx), 17 looks like an AGS official (Gitanes logos). Mario Hytten has to be in there somewhere, should be wearing Oblitrading logos, or maybe he's 7???

#10 Peter Morley

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Posted 01 December 2004 - 09:54

Thanks for reminding me that I have no memory for faces - I worked with Mario Hytten in 1986 and I'm struggling to reecognise any of them!

Judging by their clothing the un-identified driver is no. 12, but doesn't look to be Mario.

1, 4, 6, 7, 9 , 11, 14, 17 look to be the non-drivers.

#11 angst

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Posted 01 December 2004 - 10:08

1 Cesaré Garibaldi - Capelli's manager?
2 Philippe Streiff
3 Lambero Leoni
4
5 Christian Danner
6
7
8 Guido Dacco
9
10 Michel Ferté
11
12 Mario Hytten
13 Mike Thackwell
14
15 Emmanuele Pirro
16 Juan Manuel Fangio III
17 Henri Julien(AGS principal)
18 Jean-Philippe Grand
19 Alain Ferté
20 Gabriele Tarquini
21 Olivier Grouillard
22 Ivan Capelli
23 John Nielsen

#12 fausto

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Posted 01 December 2004 - 11:03

angst, I'm forced to correct you :-)

Cesare si Gariboldi non Garibaldi......
yes he was Capelli team manager (Genoa Racing), went on with Ivan to March/Leyton House F.1, sadly died in a road car accident

#13 Nanni Dietrich

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Posted 01 December 2004 - 11:34

1 Cesare Gariboldi (Capelli's manager)
2 Philippe Streiff
3 Lambero Leoni
4
5 Christian Danner
6 Pierluigi Corbari
7
8 Guido Dacco
9
10 Michel Ferté
11
12 Mario Hytten
13 Mike Thackwell
14 Mike Earle :confused:
15 Emmanuele Pirro
16 Juan Manuel Fangio III
17 Henri Julien (AGS principal)
18 Jean-Philippe Grand
19 Alain Ferté
20 Gabriele Tarquini (with thick hair :p )
21 Olivier Grouillard
22 Ivan Capelli (as Tarquini :p :p )
23 John Nielsen

Number 9 seems Tauranac :confused:
Number 7 seems... Lech Walesa... :cool:
Number 11 is impossible...

#14 angst

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Posted 01 December 2004 - 11:51

Originally posted by fausto
angst, I'm forced to correct you :-)

Cesare si Gariboldi non Garibaldi......
yes he was Capelli team manager (Genoa Racing), went on with Ivan to March/Leyton House F.1, sadly died in a road car accident


I had a feeling I was wrong on that. Sorry :blush: Cesare Garibaldi was a mathemetician I think.

I'm assuming from your subsequent post I got the right guy though? :)

#15 fausto

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Posted 01 December 2004 - 12:20

Originally posted by angst


I had a feeling I was wrong on that. Sorry :blush: Cesare Garibaldi was a mathemetician I think.

I'm assuming from your subsequent post I got the right guy though? :)


NoNo! :-)

The "very famous" Garibaldi was Giuseppe, not Cesare:

He's known here in Italy as "L'eroe dei due mondi" (the hero of the two worlds-the European and American continents), he was some kind of a patriot/revolutionary....
http://www.google.co...garibaldi&meta=

#16 angst

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Posted 01 December 2004 - 12:34

Originally posted by fausto


NoNo! :-)

The "very famous" Garibaldi was Giuseppe, not Cesare:

He's known here in Italy as "L'eroe dei due mondi" (the hero of the two worlds-the European and American continents), he was some kind of a patriot/revolutionary....
http://www.google.co...garibaldi&meta=


The man that united Italy. I know about that Garibaldi. There is a Cesare Garibaldi who was a mathemetician and engineer born in the mid 1800s, and I have no idea why his name has stuck in my mind. :

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Posted 01 December 2004 - 12:47

Well, this is what I can say or suppose:

1. Cesare Gariboldi (Capelli's manager)
2. Philippe Streiff
3. Lamberto Leoni
4. Bob Sparshott (BS Automotive) ?
5. Christian Danner
6. Pierluigi Corbari (Corbari Italia)
7. maybe Sanremo Racing, Dacco's or Grouillard's manager ???
8. Guido Dacco
9. Ron Tauranac (Ralt manager)
10. Michel Ferté
11. maybe Hytten's manager ???
12. Mario Hytten
13. Mike Thackwell
14. Mike Earle (Onyx)
15. Emmanuele Pirro
16. Juan Manuel Fangio III
17. Henri Julien (AGS principal)
18. Jean-Philippe Grand
19. Alain Ferté
20. Gabriele Tarquini
21. Olivier Grouillard
22. Ivan Capelli
23. John Nielsen

#18 ReWind

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Posted 01 December 2004 - 20:56

The drivers (2, 3, 5, 8, 10, 12, 13, 15, 16, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23) have all been correctly identified. # 12 definitely is Mario Hytten.

1, 4, 6, 7, 9, 11, 14, 17 should be team personnel.
# 1: Cesare Gariboldi (Genoa) – 4 votes are good enough for me
# 4: Bob Sparshott (BS) – 1 vote, hmmm
# 6: Pierluigi Corbari (Italia 3000) – 3 votes are good enough for me
# 7: mystery man
# 9: Ron Tauranac (Ralt) – 2 votes, I agree
# 11: mystery man – I guess it could be Peter MacIntosh (PMC)
# 14: Mike Earle (Onys) – 3 votes are good enough for me
# 17: Henri Julien (AGS) – 3 votes, but I don’t believe it is him. The guy in the picture is much younger than Monsieur Julien should have been in 1985. I think it could be Christian Vanderpleyn (also AGS).

Teams which should be represented are ORECA (Hugues de Chaunac anywhere?) and Sanremo (Alberto Colombo anywhere?).

Okay, Twinny, it's your turn to solve the riddle.;)

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Posted 01 December 2004 - 21:07

Just a thought because # 7 is in civvies as is # 20 (Tarquini). Could it be Roberto del Castello, driver of Sanremo March (car # 33) who is usually listed as "dna"? Maybe he was there at Pau nevertheless.

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#20 ReWind

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Posted 02 December 2004 - 21:07

TWINNY! PLEASE! HELP!

#21 Twin Window

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Posted 02 December 2004 - 21:29

I think #1 is actually de Chaunac, and I agree that #17 is Vanderpleyn. #9 is definitely Tauranac and #14 is Earle.

#22 ReWind

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Posted 02 December 2004 - 22:16

Thank you very much.

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Posted 03 December 2004 - 12:39

Funny all the pics of Ferte, Alain that I have seen from that year he appears to be wearing trainers instead of race boots - surely the scrutineeers would have complained? Or was it just his race boots were so old and knackered?

#24 Nanni Dietrich

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Posted 03 December 2004 - 13:53

Originally posted by ReWind

Teams which should be represented are ORECA (Hugues de Chaunac anywhere?) and Sanremo (Alberto Colombo anywhere?).


Surely there is NOT Alberto Colombo in this picture.

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Posted 15 October 2005 - 18:38

:) Hello !

4 > He's not Bob Sparshott

14 > He's Bob Sparshott in all probability.

With best regards from Phinorman :wave:

#26 Twin Window

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Posted 15 October 2005 - 20:53

Originally posted by phinorman

:) Hello !

Hello! :wave:

4 > He's not Bob Sparshott

I agree.

14 > He's Bob Sparshott in all probability.

Nope; I think that's definitely Mike Earle...

#27 Gerard Gamand

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Posted 16 May 2007 - 15:45

The 17 is definitively neither Henri Julien, nor Chritian Van Der Pleyn.
Could be a "Gitanes" man ???

#28 Peter Darley

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Posted 16 May 2007 - 16:04

Originally posted by Twin Window
Hello! :wave:

I agree.

Nope; I think that's definitely Mike Earle... [/B]


Agree with Twin Window. No.14 is too tall for Bob Sparshott