1- Battle between Benamo and Alfonso de Toledano.
2- Cockpit Ralt RT3-Toyota - Enrique Benamo.
3- Silverstone - Enrique Benamo - Docking Racing Team.
4- Enrique Benamo - Avon tyres test - Privates winter test.
British F3 1981 - 1982
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Repco von Brabham
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Posted 16 December 2004 - 23:13
F-3 Silverstone, 1981-1982.
1- Battle between Benamo and Alfonso de Toledano.
2- Cockpit Ralt RT3-Toyota - Enrique Benamo.
3- Silverstone - Enrique Benamo - Docking Racing Team.
4- Enrique Benamo - Avon tyres test - Privates winter test.
1- Battle between Benamo and Alfonso de Toledano.
2- Cockpit Ralt RT3-Toyota - Enrique Benamo.
3- Silverstone - Enrique Benamo - Docking Racing Team.
4- Enrique Benamo - Avon tyres test - Privates winter test.
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Posted 16 December 2004 - 23:18
Brands Hatch. 1982.
1- Enrique Benamo, Thierry Tassin, and Philippe Alliot.
2- Enrique Benamo - Ralt RT-3 Toyota - Alan Docking Team.
1- Enrique Benamo, Thierry Tassin, and Philippe Alliot.
2- Enrique Benamo - Ralt RT-3 Toyota - Alan Docking Team.
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Posted 16 December 2004 - 23:34
The "Argentinian Legion" in the European and Brittish F-3
Victor Rosso, Enrique Mansilla, Oscar Larrauri, Enrique Benamo and Carlos Arguelles..
My friend Carlos Arguelles in his car, one Anson SA-3
Victor Rosso, Enrique Mansilla, Oscar Larrauri, Enrique Benamo and Carlos Arguelles..
My friend Carlos Arguelles in his car, one Anson SA-3
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Posted 17 December 2004 - 02:49
Roberto Guerrero in the JM6 at Thruxton in 1980
Alba AR1 Alfa Romeo Mugello 1980 Enzo Coloni
Argo JM8 December 1980
Martini MK31P Streiff in Monaco 1980
Neil Betteridge testing the MP45 at the end of 1980
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Posted 17 December 2004 - 07:41
[QUOTE]Originally posted by jadb1
Alba AR1 Alfa Romeo Mugello 1980 Enzo Coloni
It's not Enzo Coloni in the Alba AR1, but Pierluigi Martini in a Dallara (382?)
Alba AR1 Alfa Romeo Mugello 1980 Enzo Coloni
It's not Enzo Coloni in the Alba AR1, but Pierluigi Martini in a Dallara (382?)
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Posted 17 December 2004 - 10:07
Originally posted by Repco von Brabham
My friend Carlos Arguelles in his car, one Anson SA-3
Arguelles has the helmet similar to José Carlos Pace.
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Posted 17 December 2004 - 10:24
Actually, Nanni, it's a straight replica of Derek Daly's design.Originally posted by Nanni Dietrich
Arguelles has the helmet similar to José Carlos Pace.
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Posted 17 December 2004 - 12:56
That Anson is a fine looking car, shame they never got it going as well as the RT3s. The Argo JM8 also looks good, from the front anyway. Pity about its performance...
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Posted 17 December 2004 - 13:05
Originally posted by Mallory Dan
That Anson is a fine looking car, shame they never got it going as well as the RT3s. The Argo JM8 also looks good, from the front anyway. Pity about its performance...
The SA3 had major surgery early in its life and Anson were playing catch-up - the rear end was originally all faired in with short sidepods and a faired-in wing reminiscent of the Lotus 80. That all came off to be replaced by the more conventional tail....
I always felt Anson were one of the great "should've beens" in F3 - they never quite seemed to turn odd successes into Ralt-style dominance, though. Gary Anderson was pretty much the right man at the right time - F1 background, a real "feel" for the mechanical aspects of the cars and a seemingly intuitive grasp of aero..... and as you say most of the cars always looked great, particularly the SA4. (The last Anson F3, Keith Fine's SA6 was odd, with very high cockpit sides and sidepods - very different to the Ralts and Reynards it was up against....)
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Posted 17 December 2004 - 23:09
Methinks fausto is right with his identification of the photo above, it isn't an Alba AR1 it's a Dallara 381. The confusion seems to come from the "A to Z of Formula Racing Cars" by David Hodges, the picture appears there as the Alba and I'm embarassed to say I've identified it as such on my f3history site. I will be correcting it tomorrow
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Posted 17 December 2004 - 23:11
Originally posted by Mallory Dan
That Anson is a fine looking car, shame they never got it going as well as the RT3s. The Argo JM8 also looks good, from the front anyway. Pity about its performance...
Mallory:
The Argo JM8 was a total TRASH...
Ask me..
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Posted 18 December 2004 - 00:35
Sorry, no action shots - but here's, er... a 'mixed' selection of pics I still treasure, featuring my mate Quique Mansilla from F3 in 1982...
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Posted 18 December 2004 - 02:44
Originally posted by Twin Window
Sorry, no action shots - but here's, er... a 'mixed' selection of pics I still treasure, featuring my mate Quique Mansilla from F3 in 1982...
Great pics. I remember being very interested in F3 back then, thinking I had a clue who was going to really make it big time. Ferte, Tassin, Moreno, Byrne, Scott, Capelli - what a bloody young fool I was.
Lookng at this particular batch the reference to the Falklands made me think - how much did the Falklands war affect the chances of such as Benamo, Mansilla, Rossi and Larruri? I know Larruri had a testing contract at Ferrari - but that came to nothing (much to the chagrin of a 14 year old who thought him a perfect fit for the team - and if not then Alfa would have done. Imagine de Cesaris and Larruri in the turbo 183T. From his sportscar performances I think he would have been spectacular in that car).
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Posted 18 December 2004 - 10:43
I remember '81 F3 well. My father set up Shuroku Sasaki's F3 effort for him (he, and his mechanics spoke little English). When the mechanics had to return to Japan at short notice at the behest of the Home Office, my dad ended up running the car on his own from the garage at home. I used to help out when I could at races. Shuroku didn't go too badly, all things considered.
Does anyone have any pictures of the black "Gallop Racing" RT3?
Does anyone have any pictures of the black "Gallop Racing" RT3?
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Posted 18 December 2004 - 11:46
Angst
The Falklands basically ruined Quique's career. He'd done a good job in 1981, as Senna's team mate in the works Van Diemens, and moved up to F3 for 1982. Not long after the troubles started, the payments from Financiera Munro and Aerolineas Argentinas stopped and, had it not been for Dickie and WSR underwriting a skeleton budget, so would Quique. From then on the team lost some momentum, but still did a fantastic job and only lost the title to Tommy at the final round.
The neighbours were good to him, and most sympathetic. Commentators started referring to him as 'South American' and I remember we went to the Thruxton F2 race (when he was in the support race) together and split up on arrival. The next time my girlfriend and I saw him, he was walking towards us through the F3 paddock, telling everybody - in a very loud voice - to stay away as there was a 200 mile exclusion zone around him!
After Eliseo had gone back to Chile at the end of the season, I shared a house with Quique and he was completely broke. I remember us returning home from a test at Brands with both of us starving, but all there was in the kitchen was a solitary red pepper... We laughed about it some time afterwards!
Things improved a little over the following winter and Quiqes got some money from Argentina for F2 with a semi-works March run by James Gresham alongside Lamberto Leoni. It was only enough to start the season, but things got off to a bad start when he had a huge road accident near Silverstone when he hit a diesel spill on the A43 and rolled his Alfa. He was a bit battered, but no bones were broken, and it could have been far worse as - just as he'd extricated himself from the wreckage - the next car through lost it too, and piled into Quique's car...
The next race was Hockenheim, and during practice Quique experienced problems with his vision. The circuit medical team sent him off to a specialist who told him that (IIRC) he had a partially detached retina, and a couple more laps could have resulted in blindness. So he was forced to miss a race or two, I forget how many, and then the money ran out.
He did some Can-Am in 1984 which led to a few ChampCar outings in 1985 with Hemelgarn, but that ended in disaster at Phoenix (or was it Sanair?) when he went backwards into the wall and fractured a vertebra. And that was it; end of the line for the bloke - who was a quick lad, by the way. A real character, and a great mate too!
The Falklands basically ruined Quique's career. He'd done a good job in 1981, as Senna's team mate in the works Van Diemens, and moved up to F3 for 1982. Not long after the troubles started, the payments from Financiera Munro and Aerolineas Argentinas stopped and, had it not been for Dickie and WSR underwriting a skeleton budget, so would Quique. From then on the team lost some momentum, but still did a fantastic job and only lost the title to Tommy at the final round.
The neighbours were good to him, and most sympathetic. Commentators started referring to him as 'South American' and I remember we went to the Thruxton F2 race (when he was in the support race) together and split up on arrival. The next time my girlfriend and I saw him, he was walking towards us through the F3 paddock, telling everybody - in a very loud voice - to stay away as there was a 200 mile exclusion zone around him!
After Eliseo had gone back to Chile at the end of the season, I shared a house with Quique and he was completely broke. I remember us returning home from a test at Brands with both of us starving, but all there was in the kitchen was a solitary red pepper... We laughed about it some time afterwards!
Things improved a little over the following winter and Quiqes got some money from Argentina for F2 with a semi-works March run by James Gresham alongside Lamberto Leoni. It was only enough to start the season, but things got off to a bad start when he had a huge road accident near Silverstone when he hit a diesel spill on the A43 and rolled his Alfa. He was a bit battered, but no bones were broken, and it could have been far worse as - just as he'd extricated himself from the wreckage - the next car through lost it too, and piled into Quique's car...
The next race was Hockenheim, and during practice Quique experienced problems with his vision. The circuit medical team sent him off to a specialist who told him that (IIRC) he had a partially detached retina, and a couple more laps could have resulted in blindness. So he was forced to miss a race or two, I forget how many, and then the money ran out.
He did some Can-Am in 1984 which led to a few ChampCar outings in 1985 with Hemelgarn, but that ended in disaster at Phoenix (or was it Sanair?) when he went backwards into the wall and fractured a vertebra. And that was it; end of the line for the bloke - who was a quick lad, by the way. A real character, and a great mate too!
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Originally posted by Twin Window
Angst
The Falklands basically ruined Quique's career.
And the Benamo's career too..
And Poppy Larrauri can`t run in Theodore..
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Posted 20 December 2004 - 09:33
The helmet of Mansilla was one of the most pleasant, I think. The rows were red or blue, I don't remember...
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Posted 20 December 2004 - 13:35
Stuart, the shot of the WSR guys at the bar, who is the guy with the beard to the left?
I'm sure his name is John ( can't remember surname) and I worked with him years ago at Royale?
I think he came from the Thruxton area.
I'm sure his name is John ( can't remember surname) and I worked with him years ago at Royale?
I think he came from the Thruxton area.
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Posted 20 December 2004 - 13:54
Andrew - it's John Brook(e)s (aka Brooksy) who was, and still is I understand, a snapper. I think he's still freelance, and sometimes works for Suttons.
Nanni - Quique's helmet was white with red stripes, which had black key lines on the early versions like the GPA he's wearing in the photo above. That day was pre-season, when he destroyed the car at Thruxton and I don't think he used that lid again.
To my mind his helmets - he then switched to Bells, as seen in the top pic - began to look really good from then on, as he dropped the keylines, the stripes were far neater as well as being painted in dayglo red.
Nanni - Quique's helmet was white with red stripes, which had black key lines on the early versions like the GPA he's wearing in the photo above. That day was pre-season, when he destroyed the car at Thruxton and I don't think he used that lid again.
To my mind his helmets - he then switched to Bells, as seen in the top pic - began to look really good from then on, as he dropped the keylines, the stripes were far neater as well as being painted in dayglo red.
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Posted 20 December 2004 - 14:08
Originally posted by Andrew Kitson
Stuart, the shot of the WSR guys at the bar, who is the guy with the beard to the left?
I'm sure his name is John ( can't remember surname) and I worked with him years ago at Royale?
I think he came from the Thruxton area.
And who's the one with the wierd eyes next to him. Looks a bit like Graham Hill on something ....
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Posted 27 December 2004 - 23:53
Poppy Larrauri Mendoza 1979 Martini MK29
Poppy Larrauri Martini MK31
Poppy Larrauri March 813
Alejandro
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Posted 28 December 2004 - 01:31
Originally posted by jadb1
Poppy Larrauri Mendoza 1979 Martini MK29
Poppy Larrauri Martini MK31
Poppy Larrauri March 813
Alejandro
THE TOPIC IS NAMED BRITISH F-3 1981-82..., NOT "the Larrauri races"..
Capisce..???
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Posted 28 December 2004 - 03:18
Benamo esta foto es del campeonato britanico y salio subcampeon esta correcta aca?? 
Saludos Alejandro
Saludos Alejandro
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Alba AR1 Alfa Romeo Mugello 1980 Enzo Coloni
It's not Enzo Coloni in the Alba AR1, but Pierluigi Martini in a Dallara (382?)
Have we ever seen the Alba AR1 in reality?
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Posted 14 August 2010 - 16:46
wow cannot believe some of the great pictures from a golden age for f3
sadly i was not around to see it in its heyday but after having read tommy byrne's book about his struggles in the junior formulas it really intrested me to find out about these years
then i found this topic
also im intrested to know what happened to his south american rivals of the time like quique mansilla alfonso toeldano etc
thanks
sadly i was not around to see it in its heyday but after having read tommy byrne's book about his struggles in the junior formulas it really intrested me to find out about these years
then i found this topic
also im intrested to know what happened to his south american rivals of the time like quique mansilla alfonso toeldano etc
thanks
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TLD is knocking about on FB I think the other peaple on here who are friends with him should persuade the old chap on here to add some memories....
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Posted 15 August 2010 - 01:20
I heard that Alfonso Toledano had an accident at Silverstone towards the end of 1982 I think. I wasn't there but, apparently, it didn't seem terribly serious and he was allowed to wander off and return to the paddock by himself. However he had suffered concussion and collapsed on the way. The resulting head injuries more or less ended his front line career.
Incidentally it was after that incident that the rule was introduced that a marshal must always stay with a driver after an accident and anyone who has suffered a signifigant impact has to be collected by ambulance at the end of the session and taken to the medical centre for a check up. It was a tragedy for Toledano who showed some potential in F3 but the new rules have undoubtedly saved others from more serious injury since.
As for the Falklands War I remember an article in the Leicester Mercury shortly befor ethe F3 at Mallory in 1982 speculating about whethe rthe Argentinians would be allowed to race at all and if they were whether some kind of protest should be staged. In the event nothing came of it and they raced normally. As someone who believes that sport can transcend war and bring peoples together I saw that as a great victory.
Incidentally it was after that incident that the rule was introduced that a marshal must always stay with a driver after an accident and anyone who has suffered a signifigant impact has to be collected by ambulance at the end of the session and taken to the medical centre for a check up. It was a tragedy for Toledano who showed some potential in F3 but the new rules have undoubtedly saved others from more serious injury since.
As for the Falklands War I remember an article in the Leicester Mercury shortly befor ethe F3 at Mallory in 1982 speculating about whethe rthe Argentinians would be allowed to race at all and if they were whether some kind of protest should be staged. In the event nothing came of it and they raced normally. As someone who believes that sport can transcend war and bring peoples together I saw that as a great victory.
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Posted 15 August 2010 - 06:40
I heard that Alfonso Toledano had an accident at Silverstone towards the end of 1982 I think. I wasn't there but, apparently, it didn't seem terribly serious and he was allowed to wander off and return to the paddock by himself. However he had suffered concussion and collapsed on the way. The resulting head injuries more or less ended his front line career.
Incidentally it was after that incident that the rule was introduced that a marshal must always stay with a driver after an accident and anyone who has suffered a signifigant impact has to be collected by ambulance at the end of the session and taken to the medical centre for a check up. It was a tragedy for Toledano who showed some potential in F3 but the new rules have undoubtedly saved others from more serious injury since.
As for the Falklands War I remember an article in the Leicester Mercury shortly befor ethe F3 at Mallory in 1982 speculating about whethe rthe Argentinians would be allowed to race at all and if they were whether some kind of protest should be staged. In the event nothing came of it and they raced normally. As someone who believes that sport can transcend war and bring peoples together I saw that as a great victory.
Toledano was racing past 82 - he was in Germany for a bit, then back in Mexico I think.
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Posted 15 August 2010 - 12:02
Toledano did some Group C in the late 80s.
