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Is this the end of Reims?!

Started by Stefan Schmidt , May 20 2005 18:18

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#1 Stefan Schmidt

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Posted 20 May 2005 - 18:18

Bad news! Last Tuesday I was coming back from my Normandy trip, after beeing first at Hockenheim, than walking around the Nürburgring, visiting again Rouen Les Essarts I stopped at the Reims (4 circuits in 3 weeks) circuit in front of the pit lane.
I was surprised because there have been 8 or 9 people with maps and such things there which were discussing a lot. What I have understand well was, that one of the older guys said to a woman that the problem is that there are a lot of idiots visiting this place every day and one can wait until one is braking his neck while climbing on the grandstands. I hope that the will not destroy this remarkable place. :cry:

The funny thing was, that I have met one guy from England near to the grand stand who was amazed as much as I was. I asked him if he is from TNF, but he wasn’t. Later he asks me if I am from South Africa, maybe because of my Austrian accent. :rotfl:


Photos will follow soon.

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#2 Pils1989

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Posted 20 May 2005 - 18:51

Nope, some locals are going to preserve it and you might have noticed that one of the buildings has been restored. Also there is a Reims Revival planned this Summer:)

#3 MCS

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Posted 20 May 2005 - 18:59

A Revival ?! :eek:

Are you sure ?? :D

#4 Pils1989

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Posted 20 May 2005 - 19:05

Well, I know I tend to be fluff and I'm pretty sure I had my glasses on when I've read it in Motor Sport or Classic and Sport Cars last week:) (can't verify, they are in the car at my wife's work-place)
I've asked a friend from Reims if he was going and he replied he had other plans this Summer.
1+1= I didn't hallucinate:)

#5 Pils1989

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Posted 20 May 2005 - 19:07

http://acg.site.voil...eures_2005.html

#6 Pedro 917

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Posted 21 May 2005 - 09:31

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#7 Keir

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Posted 23 May 2005 - 15:41

The Reims programs were always nice to look at, no great works of art, but nice to look at !!!

#8 Stefan Schmidt

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Posted 03 June 2005 - 15:13

Here the photos from my visit

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#9 wildman

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Posted 03 June 2005 - 19:33

If that were in the States, it would've been thoroughly desecrated by generations of grafitti "artists." Then again, by now it's more likely to have been razed to make way for a Wal-Mart....

#10 Andrew Fellowes

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Posted 03 June 2005 - 22:13

Originally posted by wildman
If that were in the States, it would've been thoroughly desecrated by generations of grafitti "artists." Then again, by now it's more likely to have been razed to make way for a Wal-Mart....


Must be more 'effluent' in the States 'cause what they may paint there, in Europe they half inch & sell,

-from ebay (& I refuse to post a link)
REIMS GRAND PRIX CIRCUIT MEMORABILIA ITEM.

You are bidding for a piece of mosaic from the BP sign on the floor of the entrance to the clubhouse at the Reims GP cicuit.

The Reims - Gueux Grand Prix circuit was used from 1925 to 1970 for the French Grand Prix.

All the great names in motor racing history have walked over this mosaic.

The piece measures 2 1/2" x 2" and comes with a 6" x 4" print of the mosaic.

#11 Pils1989

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Posted 03 June 2005 - 22:24

I've emailed the auction link to the association president.
I'm really upset but I guess it's too late now to get it back...

#12 Kpy

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Posted 03 June 2005 - 22:35

Originally posted by Pils1989
I've emailed the auction link to the association president.
I'm really upset but I guess it's too late now to get it back...


You could always contact ebay to tell them it is very probably stolen property.

#13 Pils1989

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Posted 04 June 2005 - 12:09

Ok, got an answer from the association.
It's not the first time that guy is selling a piece of the BP mosaic, apparently.
The mayor got the mosaic removed and placed it in a safe place as the buildings are the town property.

#14 HistoricMustang

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Posted 05 June 2005 - 22:24

Yes, things that are public property help a bunch! Thanks for the info.

Henry

#15 911

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Posted 05 June 2005 - 23:26

Those pictures are so bloody cool! When was the last time a major race was held there?

#16 Rob29

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Posted 06 June 2005 - 08:50

Originally posted by 911
Those pictures are so bloody cool! When was the last time a major race was held there?

1969 F2

#17 Pils1989

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Posted 06 June 2005 - 11:55

A bit OT.
Are there some relics, of the same kind of Gueux or the timing-tower at Chimay, in the US?
(There are some interesting old amusement-parks here!)

#18 911

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Posted 06 June 2005 - 13:57

Thanks, Rob29.

#19 wildman

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Posted 06 June 2005 - 16:16

Originally posted by Pils1989
A bit OT.
Are there some relics, of the same kind of Gueux or the timing-tower at Chimay, in the US?
(There are some interesting old amusement-parks here!)


The US doesn't have as strong a tradition of public-road circuits as in Europe, and I don't know of anything similar to the Gueux complex here. However, there are plenty of abandoned permanent tracks or the vestiges of former circuits, if you know where to look.

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#20 HistoricMustang

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Posted 06 June 2005 - 18:24

Originally posted by Pils1989
A bit OT.
Are there some relics, of the same kind of Gueux or the timing-tower at Chimay, in the US?
(There are some interesting old amusement-parks here!)


Pils, just did this one last week. It can be added as a day trip if your schedule permits. You will enjoy the visit:

http://forums.atlasf...&threadid=78571

The former Lakewood Speedway just south of Atlanta is also a nice visit. Search here for photos and information.

Both of these tracks still have the concrete main grandstands plus other interesting features.

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Posted 07 June 2005 - 12:04

As of 2002, most of the permanent facilities for Marlboro Raceway in Upper Marlboro, MD as still standing. One of the benefits of having been built on a flood plain is that nowadays no one will use that property.

Here is an satellite image

As far as Cumberland MD, the only permanent "racing facility" would be the slate dump hill that was used for spectator seating. Now mostly covered with scrub and trees.

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#22 Pils1989

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Posted 07 June 2005 - 12:17

Wonderful places :up:

Thank you! :)

#23 Stefan Schmidt

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Posted 24 September 2005 - 14:29

I was in Reims yesterday and it seems to be that they are going to restore it. Photos will follow soon.

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Posted 24 September 2005 - 15:29

I have what is left of the yellow and red "Garage" (pit entry) sign that survived from the Rouen circuit and that I discovered in the woody area next to the pits, and will be pleased to give it back if the place is ever restored. In the meantime, you won't find it on E-Pay because I am not a thief...

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#25 Antoine Pilette

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Posted 24 September 2005 - 15:42

The president of Reims/Gueux association is looking for stories and pictures about their track.
I've already pointed him to TNF!

#26 Stefan Schmidt

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Posted 24 September 2005 - 17:24

Originally posted by Antoine Pilette
The president of Reims/Gueux association is looking for stories and pictures about their track.
I've already pointed him to TNF!


Maybe he should see this page too:

Memories de stands

Patrice Vatan can also deliver good stories! :wave:

#27 Holger Merten

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Posted 24 September 2005 - 18:44

Okay I've learned french in school (could get some baguettes across the border), my daughter is doing the same, my wife speaks french very good and my 2nd daughters tries to speak swiss/GERMAN (I hope more german), but where pls. is the button to change the language?

#28 flat-16

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Posted 24 September 2005 - 19:07

That's a great link Stefan, thank-you!

Unfortunately, the Google translation is no better than my French...

Have there ever been prints made of the JMF / Gonzales photo? One of those would look nice on the study wall...

What do you think JMF is saying to MT? Caption anyone? What is the Bull thinking?

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#29 MCS

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Posted 24 September 2005 - 19:31

Originally posted by Stefan Schmidt
I was in Reims yesterday and it seems to be that they are going to restore it. Photos will follow soon.


Very much look forward to seeing this Stefan. :up:

How far did the new "housing estate" encroach in the end, dare I ask???

#30 D-Type

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Posted 24 September 2005 - 19:53

Originally posted by Stefan Schmidt


Maybe he should see this page too:

Memories de stands

Patrice Vatan can also deliver good stories! :wave:

I really must refresh my French - it's 40-odd years now since I did it in school. Maybe I should persuade the boss (aka "She who must be obeyed", etc) that we should pay visits to Le Mans (not for the trains), Monaco (not for the casino), Spa (not for the waters) and Magny Cours (not for any reason i can think of)

#31 Stefan Schmidt

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Posted 30 September 2005 - 17:49

Me at the hairpin of Rouen

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Same day... some hours later. Me and my brand new car in the old Reims pitlane

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#32 Stefan Schmidt

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Posted 18 December 2005 - 18:07

Where and how can I support the >Friends of the old Reims Circuit

#33 Lotus23

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Posted 19 December 2005 - 02:53

Why haven't I spent more time learning French?? (Courtesy Uncle Sam, I spent 38 months in Orleans '60-'63; am ashamed that I learned little beyond the rudiments of ordering a sandwich jambon and a Panther Pils beer.)

Though I've visited the Reims circuit only once, it was for the '61 French GP, a day I shall never forget.

I'm still a francophile and hope that the grounds are not bulldozed into oblivion.

#34 Stefan Schmidt

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Posted 12 March 2007 - 17:23

At September 22 and 23, 2007 will be a big event in Reims! With F1, F2 and F3 cars until 1970 :wave:

#35 Alan Cox

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Posted 12 March 2007 - 17:50

The website for Les amis du Circuit de Gueux has moved to:

http://www.amis-du-c...ux.fr/-Welcome-

#36 Stefan Schmidt

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Posted 02 February 2008 - 06:52

Here is my new Tribute to the Circuit of Reims-Gueux:

http://uk.youtube.co...h?v=V40wsk8W2b8

#37 Paul Rochdale

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Posted 02 February 2008 - 08:48

Superb, Stefan :clap:

#38 Stefan Schmidt

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Posted 02 February 2008 - 09:52

Thanks!

You can see my Reims Tribute on March 8, 2008 at the Reims Musee Automobile exhibition on a big screen.

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Posted 02 February 2008 - 18:16

Terrific job, Stefan! I particularly enjoyed the juxtaposition of past and present, and the music was spot-on.

Loved the clip of '61 Thillois: even though I couldn't pick myself out of the shot, it was a wonderful memory to realize I was among those sweating spectators. And I assume the driver valiantly pushing his Ferrari was Phil Hill?

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#40 Stefan Schmidt

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Posted 02 February 2008 - 18:46

Yes, it was Phil Hill, but I slow down the video (pushing the Ferrari) 4times because it looks better than ;)

#41 Pils1989

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Posted 04 May 2008 - 12:14

You are now able to visit the track with an audioguide:
http://www.amis-du-c...te-audioguidee-

Download the mp3s for your iPod or burn a CD and follow the markings around the track.

#42 Stefan Schmidt

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Posted 04 May 2008 - 13:24

I was there yesterday and it looks great - photos to follow soon! ;)

#43 Stefan Schmidt

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Posted 02 November 2009 - 09:13

2 Laps at Circuit de Reims Gueux - 1 1/2 Track Versions


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Posted 02 November 2009 - 11:51

2 Laps at Circuit de Reims Gueux - 1 1/2 Track Versions


Excellent. Many thanks for posting this.
For those of us yet to visit the site, its quite an eye-opener so see the mix of familiar and modern features.

That first corner must have been something else at full bore in a T70 at night....

Pity about the modern roundabouts but still so much of the place is as-was.

How about a lap of the pre-war circuit that ran into Geux itself ?

#45 Stefan Schmidt

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Posted 07 November 2009 - 08:41

How about a lap of the pre-war circuit that ran into Geux itself ?


Next time - the road through the village was closed because of a building site :rolleyes:

#46 Stefan Schmidt

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Posted 07 November 2009 - 11:14

Pit Buildings Reims Gueux - Camera Test 4:3


#47 Stefan Schmidt

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Posted 18 February 2010 - 12:02

BRAND NEW :clap:

The ACG Reims-Gueux Tribute 2010

http://www.blip.tv/file/3234534
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