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Old-Timer Grand Prix, Nurburgring Aug 12-14

Started by mark f1 , Aug 10 2005 13:03

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#1 mark f1

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Posted 10 August 2005 - 13:03

Anyone going?

I've only recently arrived in Germany with work and am hoping to combine this with my first visit to the Nordschleife, which I believe is also open this weekend.

Mark

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#2 Pedro 917

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Posted 10 August 2005 - 13:26

There's the Historic Marathon-400 3 Hours race on the Nordschleife Friday / Start at 3.00 pm
The rest of the races are on the GP track. I'll be there Friday and Saturday.

More here

For entries go to "starterlisten" in the right column.

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#3 Cirrus

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Posted 11 August 2005 - 15:30

Sadly, I'm not going this year - this time last year, we were setting up in the paddock, after an extremely eventful journey.

The Oldtimer GP is a huge event, and seems to be a meeting place for just about every one make car club in Germany. There would appear to be quite a bit of activity on the Nordschleife. Besides the 3 hour race, there's a demo between 12:00 and 13:30 of pre 1940 racing sports cars, 2-seaters and GTs up to 1961 and 1965, together with pre '60 Historic GP cars and the Ferrari Maserati Challenge.

Enjoy yourselves, mark f1 and Pedro 917, I wish I was there with you!

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#4 Pedro 917

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Posted 11 August 2005 - 16:37

Thanks Cirrus, a pity we're in for some typical Nürburgring weather!

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#5 Hans Etzrodt

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Posted 13 August 2005 - 11:58

Although I am in Germany right now, I am not able to attend the NŸrburgring event. I have to stay in MŸnchen.

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#6 Rob Semmeling

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Posted 15 August 2005 - 09:23

Hi guys,

I have put together a small website with a selection of the images my brother took on saturday:

http://home.arcor.de...e/oldtimer.html

There are also a few movies, in Quicktime format.

@JSF: what happened with the 717?

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#7 Pedro 917

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Posted 15 August 2005 - 10:06

what happened with the 717?

The engine blew in lap 4 during Saturday's race. He did the fastest lap though.

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#8 Pedro 917

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Posted 15 August 2005 - 10:30

Hi Rob, here are some pictures of the "717" :wave:

BTW, there was a second March 707 on the grid.

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#9 Rob Semmeling

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Posted 15 August 2005 - 10:32

Ah ok, thanks Pedro. I was watching the action from grandstand 4, and when suddenly the car didn't come by any more, I was very disappointed. Obviously the speed is there, as Frank was pushing Richard Piper and his McLaren hard for second place.

Btw, can we expect images from you as well?

Edit: you're too fast for me! Yes, I know about the other 707, I took several images myself. Thanks for sharing!

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#10 Pedro 917

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Posted 15 August 2005 - 10:38

Well I took some 2200 pictures of which I've kept +/- 1600 after a major clean-up. I couldn't stay until Sunday so I had to run from one corner to the other.....
I will certainly put "some" of my best pictures up in the coming days

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#11 Udo K.

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Posted 15 August 2005 - 10:52

Originally posted by Pedro 917
I couldn't stay until Sunday so I had to run from one corner to the other.....

.. so you missed the "big rain"...

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#12 mark f1

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Posted 15 August 2005 - 13:30

I managed to make it for Saturday. Weather was perfect. Racing was excellent and there was plenty to see. Ferrari owners club, Porsche, Alfa, Maserati had huge numbers of cars there. The historic F1 cars were excellent and Saturday's race had a great dice between Emerson Fittipaldi and Jackie Stewart for 3rd, well I didn't have a program and that's who they looked like to me.

Also did my first lap around the Nordscleife, that was awesome, although having to constantly move over for the quick guys was a pain, I'm sure they said the same about me. Hard to compete with Porsche's with an Astra wagon. Gotta love the German mentality of letting people decide their own limits eg. Nordscleife and autobahns!

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#13 Rob Semmeling

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Posted 15 August 2005 - 14:29

Originally posted by mark f1
Weather was perfect.

It was dry all day, and indeed it was lovely in the sun. However, it was just plain cold on the grandstand!

Btw, I uploaded some more images. See: http://home.arcor.de...e/oldtimer.html

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#14 swintex

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Posted 15 August 2005 - 19:23

Somewhat OT, I just overtook Jerry Hooper's Chevron B8 on the M20, on my way home from work.

Absolutely made my day

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#15 Pedro 917

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Posted 15 August 2005 - 20:10

Here's a souvenir swintex!

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#16 Pedro 917

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Posted 15 August 2005 - 20:29

Some pictures from Friday's Marathon 400 on the Nordschleife (old track) :

For details / results check here

Porsches :

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#17 Pedro 917

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Posted 15 August 2005 - 20:35

Jaguars :

Martin Stretton crashed his Jaguar during Friday morning's practice:

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#18 Pedro 917

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Posted 15 August 2005 - 20:42

Fords :

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#19 Pedro 917

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Posted 15 August 2005 - 20:48

Austin Healey :

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#20 Pedro 917

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Posted 15 August 2005 - 20:55

Volvo :

Chevrolet Corvette :

Alfa Romeo :

AC Cobra :

Marcos :

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#21 Pedro 917

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Posted 15 August 2005 - 21:39

and some more :

Left to right : BMW 2002 TI, Elva Courier MKII, MGB, Lotus Elan, Aston Martin, Steyr Puch 650TR, Mercedes Benz 300SE, TVR Griffith, another Mercedes 300SE, Morgan, Lotus Elite and Triumph TR4.

.....a cup for all competitors :

Winner overall was the Porsche 911ST #158 of Eschmann/Hulverscheid (see Porsche pictures)

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#22 swintex

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Posted 16 August 2005 - 04:54

Thanks for the pictures Luc, superb as always.

I've always had a soft spot for B8s.

Richard

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#23 JSF

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Posted 18 August 2005 - 23:54

Originally posted by Rob Semmeling

@JSF: what happened with the 717?

Hi Rob, sorry for the delay, it's been flat out since getting back working on the car to try make the next race at Magny Cours.

The car was working really well at nurburg in the wet and dry, we have the car handling much better than at Brands and are understanding the car more now in it's 717 configuration, it was quick enough to fight for the win and set fastest lap so it's looking very promising for the future races. It was a shame the engine failed as the race was shaping up to be a cracker between Richard, John and Frank up front.

We now have the engine out and fully stripped and have started the component sourcing etc. but it's very tight to get it rebuilt, dyno'd and back in the car as we have to leave in nine days, but we will give it our best to try and be there.

thanks for the great photos Rob and Pedro, i was watching you take them on the grid Pedro.